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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel really rejected?

135 replies

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 13:04

Was seeing someone for 3.5 months. Was progressing really nicely - we were meeting eachother's friends, were exclusive, had just started using boyfriend / girlfriend label - felt safe and happy together, and like feelings were developing at a good pace (although not head over heels). He'd also suggested I meet his dad when he was visiting London.

He has been travelling a lot and had a lot of personal disruption and stress in this time, meaning he has been away for about a month of that and also quite distracted towards the end with said disruption which he has found extremely stressful (he is now going on antidepressants for this). Despite this, it felt like we had established a relatively stable, solid thing (although maybe less connection in the last month due to outside stress).

Then he was told he needed to move back to New York (where he is from) by his job (I'm based in London). He tried his very best to stay - argued with his bosses for weeks and was threatened with being fired etc. His original plan was to settle here and he had been here for two years - but he had no choice (giving up his job would have been stupid - he literally couldn't do better than the one he has, especially not in the UK).

We both agreed it was probably best to break it off rather than go long distance, as we hadn't had a chance to establish enough of a foundation and the only way to be physically together again would be for me to move to New York. I have had a really tough few years and part of me wouldn't mind a fresh start, which I did sort of hint at, but he said he felt that would be lot of pressure on a young relationship and he wouldn't want me to uproot my life.

He also felt that the long distance stuff in between now moving there would not go well - he said he has really suffered from not putting an effort in making friends and establishing himself in London, which has made him very depressed and isolated - and he doesn't want to make that mistake again. He feels that if we were still together his mind would always be in London and he would get anxious and sad (he does have this tendancy), and he would ruin both our relationship and not make a success of his time in New York, which he needs to live in long term now. He also has a huge work project over the next six months which is probably going to mean he's intensely busy - even on weekends.

At the same time though, I feel really sad he doesn't want to try. If he was that into me, I think he would, no? He disagrees and says that he is really into me, that he would have loved to continue this and would have were he in London, and that this decision has nothing to do with his feelings for me or how he saw us developing. He feels we should appreciate what we've had, which has been really good and special, and rare - he hasn't had a girlfriend in quite a long time - but that I should not take this personally at all.

We had a strained conversation yesterday where I was basically trying to get him to admit he just isn't that into me and he refused to and said that the not being able to do long distance is something that is separate to us, and means nothing about how much he values us. He feels like I have a different way of seeing this - which is that feelings are priority and if you want to make something happen it will work - but that he is more practically minded and feels that feelings are only part of an equation.

He feels sad that I'm questioning the validity of our relationship so far because of this, and doesn't want me to think that is wasn't something special.

I guess that he also doesn't want to waste our time on a difficult situation as he knows I want to have kids soon as does he.

Do you think I'm being unreasonable to feel so rejected? I actually feel kind of physically sick. This was the first nice person / relationship I've had in a while, and he made me feel very safe.

But I also think I might be doing something quite self destructive mentally in not believing him, because it probably does make sense practically to end it?

OP posts:
Aneley · 19/02/2020 16:34

@Bartlet, actually the point of my post was along the lines of: 'you both have to be on the same page and willing to make it work - if one of you is not, then its not going to work as it sometimes doesn't even for couples where both people are willing to try'. I firmly believe that two people have to be very similar, in similar stages of life and want the same to make things work, especially when circumstances are against them.

I am very sorry OP feels bad but I don't think it would be doing her favours to do the entire 'Oh no, it wouldn't work for anyone' or 'You should give it a go, it worked for others so it will work for you' - thus offering her only the extreme options. The truth is in the middle. It may work, it may not work but that is so couple specific and so circumstance specific that it is difficult to tell. From what she wrote it doesn't sound like they want the same - so if I were her, I wouldn't bother.

Aneley · 19/02/2020 16:35

@Bartlet - I just realized you were responding to someone else. I apologize!

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 16:36

@angieloumc Actually, I'm pretty sure I would be fine as friends. I'm glad we had what we had, but as I said in the original post I wasn't head over heels. I also have not pushed any specific outcome and the decision to breakup was mutual.

Which is why I feel I'm being unreasonable to feel so rejected!

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StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 16:38

Thanks @ComtesseDeSpair - I think I agree with your assessment, which is why I'm thinking I'm being unreasonable to feel rejected!

All those who seem to have read that I am pushing for another outcome - when I said the breakup was mutual - have got the wrong end of the stick.

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Bartlet · 19/02/2020 16:40

@Aneley. Your post was reasoned and unbiased pointing out the pros and cons. Valentine on the other hand seems to revel in the fact that her OH proposed to her after 4 months so she is the authority on these kind of relationships as she is so loveable.

To be honest no one knows why he has made this decision and anyone stating clearly either way is just confusing opinion with fact.

dorisdog · 19/02/2020 16:40

Have you thought over your desire to move away, a bit more deeply? Maybe it's sparked something in you and the 'romantic' bit is the thought of moving away? You can do that with or without a partner. Maybe it's not the relationship that stirring the excitement. Might want to give that a thought?

ChickenyChick · 19/02/2020 16:41

It is almost like you missed the bit in the relationship where it is all just carefree fun

It is unwise to push him into saying harsh things (even though that seems to be what you want?)

He has done nothing wrong, and the best you can do is accept and move on. He is.

billy1966 · 19/02/2020 16:41

OP, I think its perfectly normal and right to feel a bit disappointed. He's a nice guy.

I think it's clear that he does like you and that on a level ye have clicked well for the short time ye know each other.

He is being practical, and that's good.
He has a big stressful move and he is already not coping with it.

I think you should allow yourself be disappointed and move on with your plans.

My brother spent 2 years with work in Manhattan, and really enjoyed it, but he said definitely not if you weren't very highly paid, lovely company apartment and a buzzy work environment to socialise with.

Expensive place to live!

Wishing you wellFlowers

Aneley · 19/02/2020 16:42

@Bartlet, we're on the same page. I just speed read your comment and I guess I was already feeling that my post could be read this and that way so I hastened to explain :)

caperplips · 19/02/2020 16:43

OP sounds tough and I am not surprised you are feeling sad about it all.
I think he's scared of being 'responsible' for you making such a big change and uprooting your life to NYC for him, probably feels like an added pressure at this stage, especially since he didn't want to move there himself in the first place.

In your shoes I would keep all communications open and amicable and I would let him settle in for a couple of months and then I would go to visit him and see how it goes from there...

Once he gets sorted with a place to live and settles into his job there etc everything else will start to feel less pressured and it will be a more realistic view of how life is there for him and how you might make it work together there?

I don't think this means he's just not into you at all, he just doesn't want you to rush into a major move and that's understandable. He has told you that if he could stay (and he tried to make that happen) he was excited to see where the relationship might go...take heart from that!

NewInTown08 · 19/02/2020 16:49

I think at this point he is clearly not on board with you moving so there's no point in exploring that. I think a lot will be revealed once he actually moves back. He may find that he can't stop thinking about you and maybe realize then that there could be a real future. Sometimes only time will tell, and if things are meant to be they will be.
Although you working in the U.S. Is another huge issue .. Getting a green card is extremely difficult and you're a long way off from marriage at the 3 month mark ( or maybe not, time will tell )

Sagradafamiliar · 19/02/2020 16:54

Don't feel rejected, life just got in the way. It's not personal. Just far too early to be making long term commitments, in such a short time dating.

katkit · 19/02/2020 17:00

OP, you remind me of me- sounds as if you are ruled by your heart. It's rough, but he is being the sensible one, and it really really would not be a good idea to uproot your life for this man, despite the lovely times you have had.

PawPawNoodle · 19/02/2020 17:05

We had a strained conversation yesterday where I was basically trying to get him to admit he just isn't that into me

I think this was very cruel and unfair of you to do, OP. From what you've written it sounds like he is tremendously unhappy about how his life has panned out and that he really regretted not being able to stay in the UK, and for you to further make him suffer when he is telling you quite clearly that it is not the case that he "just isn't that into you" but rather he simply doesn't want to go to be in a long-distance relationship with you (or anyone by the sounds of it) was very selfish of you.

It is disappointing but life just pans out this way sometimes. It isn't that he has rejected you, it's that life has not turned out how either of you expected it to and he has had to make a hard decision which benefits neither of you, but there isn't an alternative to it.

Jojowash · 19/02/2020 17:05

Yeah sadly, the thought of not going with him should tear him apart especially in the ' honeymoon' period. Cut off now to save more hurt ache, don't contact him anymore and let him feel the empty without you. If he misses you things might change, if he doesn't then that's your answer x

SunshineCake · 19/02/2020 17:11

Please look at why you could only "hint" about going with him, why you were so desperate to have him admit he isn't "that in to you" and accept that this is not the relationship for you. He's done nothing wrong. It would be worse to have to cut ties in the UK then finish things soon when you are in a foreign country with no ties or foundation.

And if he started on antidepressants two days ago he clearly has been struggling for longer than that. You don't go to the doctor cold and say you are depressed after a few moments. It can take quite a while to get to the point of being on mediation.

ElephantsAlltheWayDown · 19/02/2020 17:11

Is this more about you truly wanting a relationship with him or being hung up on feeling rejected? Or wanting to move to a cool new place like NYC? You said in your first post that you guys aren't head over heels in love, and long distance relationships and/or international moves need at least that sort of intensity to hack it. They're hard.

DH and I did the long distance thing for a year before we bit the bullet, got married and I moved across the pond to be with him. It was so difficult. It worked out in the end but I honestly think if we had taken it more slowly we would have broken up.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 17:14

@PolPotNoodle that's interesting you think its cruel, I do think I was making things unnecessarily difficult and looking for him.to reject me because I couldn't maybe accept the situation which seems just very unfair on the both of us.

He says he is very sad and angry it's happened, and also guilty that it has been imposed on us. I do think I made him feel uncomfortable by basically asking him to reject me, which he refused to do. His response was that we had a good thing, and yes that makes this extra sad, but no point pretending it wasnt a special time.

I just find that a bit heartbreaking and would prefer he wasnt into me in a weird way. But I also know this is stupid self torture looking for rejection, hence my question.

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StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 17:17

@ElephantsAlltheWayDown I think I was really into him, but also cant see a practical way forward. So it's more about not wanting to be rejected, and using this situation to beat myself up, which I kind of know I'm doing but also confirmation that I'm being a bit silly is helpful. I dont think it is reasonable to make those huge decisions on the basis of a 3 month relationship!

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partofthepeanutgallery · 19/02/2020 17:17

You've been seeing him for 3.5 months, 1 month of which he's been traveling/away. That's almost nothing in relationship time.

He's doing the sensible thing. I'm sorry.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 17:18

Maybe different if we'd started long distance and knew what we were signing up for, but we were spending lots of time together and it just would have been a completely different kettle of fish neither of us signed up for

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74NewStreet · 19/02/2020 17:20

Just move on, op... You’re beating the last ounce out of this, what’s the point?

Justaboy · 19/02/2020 17:26

Startingagain..

I think its just a sad collection of the circumstances of the relationship and seems also that he's not that well with deppression etc. I wouldnt feel as if you've bene rejected as such, its just life sometimes its fine sometimes a big pile of doo-dah!

I think you'd best to hide away in a corner have a good cry over it and start again, as you are doing.

I'm allso beginng to question this "the one" concept too, don't think its always as simple as that!.

IrishMamaMia · 19/02/2020 17:28

Sometimes the person is great buy the circumstances aren't :(

Eckhart · 19/02/2020 17:29

He could just let you take the risk on this new relationship, and uproot yourself. Then if it didn't work out (however into you he is, it's unrealistic to feel you 'know' after such a short time), he'd be exactly where he wants to be, and you'd be screwed. I think it's quite decent and respectful of him to be seeing this the way he is.
I don't think it's personal OP, it's just rubbish timing. Don't let the fact that he's making a respectful decision about your relationship squash your self esteem. You'll respect yourself more if you let him go, feel sad with him before he goes, and accept the pain of this goodbye with dignity.

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