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194 replies

Winterwoollies · 19/02/2020 13:02

Ok, ok, don’t yell at me, I know this should go in another area, but I want to tap into the full Mumsnet knowledge pool and we all know this is the most highly trafficked area of Talk.

I read a comment from someone about soothing night-time screamy babies with colic the other day and it prompted me to start a notes file with good newborn baby tips. It involved putting them upright in a baby sling and going for a really good walk before bed to soothe reflux. It seemed worth remembering!

So, with that in mind, does anyone have any nuggets of useful, even obscure, advice for newborn babies and a newborn parent?

I have an unexpected baby due in the summer and am keen for some sisterly (or brotherly) advice.

Thank you!

Again, please don’t yell.

OP posts:
magicrainbowbeans · 19/02/2020 16:48

I think one of the best things for me was not really getting any advice about anything from anyone. I was on my own through pregnancy, birth and raising baby. Got a few tips I guess, but mostly parented on instinct, responded to my baby in the moment. I didn't have a pile of baby books or in laws telling what I should do. I trusted me baby to tell me what she needed and figured it out and gave her that. She's in school now so at the least I can say I didn't kill her Grin

NemophilistRebel · 19/02/2020 16:48

Best advise was to relax

I wish I did more of that. I really fretted over the small stuff to begin with

GoldenOmber · 19/02/2020 16:48

I would also say, while there are lots of babies where having a good bedtime routine and encouraging them to self-settle and so on will work like a dream, there are also quite a lot where it won't. And you don't know which kind you'll get until they've arrived. So be willing to try stuff, but also be willing to go "nope this does not work for my particular baby" if it doesn't rather than beating yourself up about failing.

Ineedcoffee2345 · 19/02/2020 16:54

Never turn light on during night feeds. Use the light from your phone screen.

Put a muslin sq in moses basket during day. Folded under to its secure. That way if baby spits up/sick you cna remove Muslim and sheet is fine Grin

Pulling legs up or out flat is usually wind.

Always look into a newborns eyes when feeding its a lovely bonding

Grumpos · 19/02/2020 16:56

No one told me this but now I’m on my 2nd baby and it’s so much better this time for realising the following -

Everything passes and everything gets easier. The nights where baby just will not settle, the days where you are ready to leave and then they chose to have a poo explosion all over themselves, the moments where you look in the mirror and feel absolutely gross. All of those moments are hard and feel never ending when you’re in the midst of it - especially your first - but honestly, they pass. It gets easier, it goes so quickly, don’t get overly stuck in the bad days. Know that it gets easier and even if you feel totally overwhelmed some days, take comfort that all the tricky stages do eventually pass!

RedWine123 · 19/02/2020 17:01

Follow your instinct no matter what.

Lots of cuddles and skin on skin.

Organise a day or so every month for some “me time”.

Time outdoors, even in the garden, I found did me and newborn a world of good. (Be sure to cover babies ears with thin hat in the first couple of months)

Enjoy your baby and keep in mind (even when you are covered in sick) that this phase goes SO FAST!!! (And you will be covered in sick)

Depop is great for second hand baby clothes

Winterwoollies · 19/02/2020 17:02

@magicrainbowbeans I’m like you I think. I’ve sort of just got on with this pregnancy. I haven’t changed my life much. I’m still very much into my fitness and my hobbies and the only thing I’ve stopped from my diet is liver, because of the vitamin A. I don’t go on lovely pub benders anymore either, I suppose.

But the advice about soothing them with a walk in a sling seemed like such a worthwhile idea that I may not think of in the stressful moment, that I stored it. And it seemed logical to get some other useful little nuggets to store up for future. Of which there are many here, so thank you everyone.

I’m also bloody-minded enough to tell interfering ILs to leave me alone and that I’m doing things my way. Which I’m weirdly looking forward to.

I’m also going to be bottle-feeding, mainly due to my choice but also a health thing, so many thanks to the PP that mentioned paced feeding.

You all sound really experienced and it’s very much appreciated. Especially the tips about double sheets, muslins under bare bums and southward-facing winkies!

I’ll ignore the warm water thing. I may be new to this but that seemed a bit bonkers.

OP posts:
Hugtheduggee · 19/02/2020 17:11

A few FF specific ones

Its ok to make up bottles and store them in the fridge. Its not the way the NHS like you to make it, but it's very quick, and a method that the WHO do state is safe and fine to use.

Oh, and don't let anyone pressure you with feeding. Formula feeding can be great and it's totally your choice :-)

You can still bottle feed in a sling at a push.

Sleep is a right not a privilege.ake sure your partner pulls his weight at night, irrespective of work. When FF, we alternated the nights, which meant that although we were both a bit tired sometimes, we never experienced the bone crushing sleep deprivation that many do. Yes it meant he alternated going to work on 8hrs unbroken and 5 hours broken, but that's a lot easier than one person having broken sleep every night. Or divide up the night so you each get a minimum block. Point being, one of the great things about FF is being able to share the load, so take full advantage of it. None of is 'I'm on maternity leave I must do it all rubbish'

Whatnameisgood · 19/02/2020 17:14

You don’t need to change baby’s nappy for every night time feed. If possible, change baby’s nappy before night feed rather than after as they’ll settle more easily. They’ll sometimes poo after but not every time so it’s worth it.

Don’t wake yourself up during night feeds by checking your phone and reading Mumsnet! It just wakes you up and makes it harder to go back to sleep.

I didn’t co-sleep with my first but did with my second and got WAY more sleep (for the first 3 months) . Just fed him on one breast as I lay on my side and we both fell asleep, then next time he woke just turned over and popped him on the other side.

Don’t underestimate how life changing and knackering it is. Line up help (paid or family) for the first few weeks at least

CaptainButtock · 19/02/2020 17:30

Settle down cobwebs
Dust go to sleep
I’m cuddling my baby
And babies don’t keep,

Fefifoefum · 19/02/2020 17:36

Read the unicef co-sleeping guidelines. And do it!! Co-sleeping saved my life with a baby that fed every hour and would not go in the damn Moses basket!

nowlook · 19/02/2020 17:52

@Fefifoefum Me too! And if someone had told me I would co-sleep before I had kids, I would have laughed in their face!

I'd be so much better at this stuff now- it takes an awful lot of confidence to fly in the face of well-meaning family.

alislim · 19/02/2020 18:01

1)Have confidence in yourself- you know your baby best.
2)If you're asking yourself how will I know when (insert anything here), you just will.
3)Also my mil would always say "it does get easier you know", and she was right.
Also..
4)It will test your relationship like nothing else.

maddiemookins16mum · 19/02/2020 18:43

My MIL said ‘it’s fine to put DD in her pram, in the hall and go and use the loo, have a shower. If she wakes and cries you‘ll hear her and get to her within minutes, she’ll be fine in the time it takes you to get a dressing gown on, slippers etc’.

She also said ‘she doesn’t need bathed every day’.

She was right.

Waterloosunsets · 19/02/2020 18:46

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TabbyMumz · 19/02/2020 19:12

"Newborns CANNOT ever have warm water. That is some of the most unbelievably dangerous advice I’ve ever seen."
Who said anything about newborns?! 3 months more like.

Lunafortheloveogod · 19/02/2020 19:13

And as I lay here with hellish braxton hicks holding the 11month old.. contraception! Get it in the hospital Grin. Once might just bloody hurt lol, never again and I mean the sex not the baby.. they’re at least cute afterwards.

GoldenOmber · 19/02/2020 19:15

Who said anything about newborns?!

The OP, that’s what she’s asking!

TabbyMumz · 19/02/2020 19:18

Yes, you can top and tail a baby (just wash with cotton wool dipped in water), dont bother buying baby baths. You can also just wash them in the sink. Much easier on your back.

bananaontoast1 · 19/02/2020 19:27

My advice is to ignore advice. Mine is only a few months old and the number of times I get advice such as "make sure you put them straight down when they fall asleep or you'll spoil them!" (Which is nonsense, and also if your child is like mine they'll wake the second they touch the mattress) and honestly, these people don't spend anywhere close to the amount of time with your baby as you do. If you've tried something and it doesn't work, just blank out the people who repeatedly suggest it.

Also my second piece of advice (even though I just said to ignore advice) is to have a constant supply of snacks on the sofa. And a huge water bottle. Children refuse to believe we have to eat and drink too.

Fleamaker123 · 19/02/2020 19:34

The best piece of advice I was given was when my first son was tiny and I was debating whether to cuddle him cos he wouldn't settle, all the books/professionals said not to keep picking him up... my friend said 'he's YOUR baby, do what YOU want with him'.. have confidence in your instinct

Keep the early days simple... Just getting out for a walk is enough! You've plenty of time for more adventurous days out.

Don't read too many baby books, especially the ones with 'routines'... totally unrealistic and puts you under too much pressure. Go with your instinct, you'll find yourself in a routine soon enough!

Muslin squares are fantastic! Wash and dry quickly

Agree with co-sleeping... Its not forever...

Graphista · 19/02/2020 19:49

From a very unexpected quarter - my dad who is not known for his diplomacy! - he basically advised ‘smile and nod’ when people give unwanted advice. Said listen politely, answer non-committally... and then do what you want! He and mum are both the eldest in large families but also were the dc of parents who’d come from large families (catholic) so there were tons of aunties/uncles/cousins/grandparents who’d had big families themselves advising them when they had me and there had apparently been some “issues” with conflicting advice from different sides of the family.

That said, despite my also being the eldest of 3 siblings and a crazy number of cousins and I’d been ‘watching weans’ for donkeys years before I had dd and I’d been a nanny too, I still forgot some stuff (sleep deprivations a bastard for knocking common sense out of your head)

Mum had to remind me of some stuff:

1 Don’t be silent when they’re sleeping/being settled

A they might get used to it and that creates a pita situation for you

B often it unsettles them as they think they’ve been abandoned!

I couldn’t understand why dd was settling well enough but when she woke was freaking out! Mum laughed and said “night light and make some noise!” Right enough soon as we allowed normal noise levels often dd would rouse...but settle herself back down quickly.

2 they don’t have the same appetite every day cos they’re not doing the same every day. Dd was a poor eater at the best of times (much later was dx with a disability which in hindsight was probably a factor) and I worried sick if she had an especially bad day.

3 “Make sure the flaps round the legs on nappies are pulled out.” Oh god yes! Not something I did but ex did a few times drove me mad! Results in more laundry needing done and if out and about can be a real pain!

4 “Hot water bottle in the Moses basket before you pop them down can stop them realising they’ve been put down. Obviously remove it before you put the baby in.” Yes that was another mum told me which I already knew and completely forgot!

5 my personal bugbear - yes bf can hurt at first even if you’re doing it right! It takes time for your nipples to “toughen up”

6 if you are bf you may not be able to express - that doesn’t necessarily mean you aren’t producing milk. Not everyone can express it’s a complex thing producing milk.

7 you don’t have to have a routine, but you may find - as I did - that baby demands one! Even now at 19 changes to her expected schedule really throw her and she hates it. As a baby if a nap was late/missed or a meal late there was hell to pay!

8 Don’t make big decisions in the first few weeks months unless absolutely necessary. Seems logical but I and others I know have done drastic things in these early stages which they massively regretted. Mine were cutting my waist length hair to a pixie crop! I thought shorter hair would be easier I was so wrong I hated it and I didn’t suit it and now also all my photos with baby dd I hate how I look. I also quit my job without properly looking into the ramifications. Ex was army and was posted but I found out far too late I could have transferred and continued Mat leave etc. But that’s pretty minor compared to friends who:

Quit jobs they’d had for ages and done loads of training for.
Sold old car and got a new car completely different to their usual tastes, inc one who sold her sensible family estate car and got a motorbike! She did this in one day without any warning to her dh and he was like “wtf!”
Sold their house!

You’re not quite in your usual mind just after giving birth so major decisions at the very least need careful consideration.

9 winding isn’t always needed at the top end! My dd needed to fart more, “cycling” her wee legs and patting lower down worked better for her

10 “Reading to them is nice but they don't care what you're reading, they just like the sound of your voice. So read them things you want to read yourself and spare the dull toddler books until they're older. Gossip magazines or great literature or whatever, it's all the same to them.” Yes! I read my favourite authors, and sang her 80’s pop or the “friends” theme (she learned embarrassingly early on when to do the claps!) ex read the rugby results! And sang her post-punk/ska songs - Dd didn’t care either way. Funny to listen to though 😂

@teenmumandsowhat - I’m so sorry you went through that hope you’re all getting the support you need now and good luck for the future

11 ok you’re ff, I’ll leave the bf tips for others who may like though.

“Its ok to make up bottles and store them in the fridge. Its not the way the NHS like you to make it, but it's very quick, and a method that the WHO do state is safe and fine to use.”

Yes I had to ff when my milk dried when dd was an older baby and that’s what I did, it was “allowed” then so I’d do a load for the next day after she was down for the night. I’ve done it for other babies I’ve cared for too no problem. As long as you’ve a good, well working fridge it really shouldn’t be an issue.

We co-slept, it didn’t actually occur to me to really do otherwise for the first few months as it was the norm in my family. I’m sure we’d have really struggled if we hadn’t as dd was a very cuddly baby and toddler.

AScarecrow · 19/02/2020 20:03

honestly? The best piece of advice I got was to formula feed (and buy the Perfect Prep). Changed my life. I was so much happier and they slept much better.

From my own experience:

  • make sure you have a supply of clean vests and PJs very close to hand when doing a night feed. DD1 used to projectile vomit just as I was getting ready to take her back to bed and rummaging around trying to find spares would put me right back to square one.
  • if you’re sharing night feeds, stagger your sleep. So in the very early days I would go to bed at 8pm (Leaving DH downstairs with the baby and the Moses basket) and sleep through uninterrupted till the 1am feed when I would come and take over from DH. I would doze on the couch and deal with the baby while he slept 1-6 (then got up for work). It meant that we were tired but neither of us were absolutely strung out with it. We then started to bring the baby up to our room when the gaps between feeds lengthened out.
  • saturated vests can come down the way!
  • water wipes for the hospital. Expensive but better than fannying around with cotton wool and warm water.
AScarecrow · 19/02/2020 20:07

Also we gave DD1 warm water (cooled boiled water) in her bottle. I’m talking like a tiny amount - on the advice of our midwife. The reason being that she was really constipated (which can happen with FF babies). She never took more than a couple of sips but it always did the trick.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 19/02/2020 20:16

Breastfeeding is horrendous for the first few weeks BUT if you can battle through that, get supply and latch sorted it's the easiest thing in the world after that.

I wish someone had told 18 year old me this. I gave up very quickly and no one discouraged me, not even midwives. I just presumed it would always be painful, and my baby wouldn't get enough milk so would scream. I remember telling the midwife in the hospital that I didn't think he was getting enough milk and should I give him a bottle instead. She looked at me with disgust and handed me a bottle. The next day when I got home I tried again a few times but just had no idea what I was doing, and felt that if I asked people would think I was stupid for not knowing. I thought I was doing the right thing switching to bottles because I could see how much he was taking.

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