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To wonder if a lot of people are still against drag ?

743 replies

INXS998 · 12/02/2020 21:41

Shows like Drag Race have become incredibly popular. I have tickets to see the live show in May, and I think drag culture is amazing. It shows how far we have come that such a show is so popular on TV, and I think it should be celebrated.
I asked some friends if they wanted to come to the show with me and they very firmly and quickly told me that they were not fans of that sort of stuff.
When I was a teenager, I used to think Drag Queens were just some middle-aged men on Canal street with a blonde wig and high heels, and I was quite intimidated and scared of them in a way. I wonder if some people still feel that way, and don't judge them for it, just curious.

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Notimeforaname · 16/02/2020 22:15

Perhaps we can recruit a few more and call them The Creepettes

DelpheDaisy · 17/02/2020 15:31

or your groups daughters are going to hate their mothers.

What's wrong with that? Hmm

DelpheDaisy · 17/02/2020 15:42

This is absolutely fcking disgusting. Absolutely sick. WTF is wrong with men?

Well, I laughed.

TaniaArse · 17/02/2020 22:06

This is absolutely fcking disgusting. Absolutely sick. WTF is wrong with men?

Well, I laughed.

I've lost track of what you're referring to! (Mumsnet, sometimes proper threading would be nice.)

AliTheMinx · 17/02/2020 22:14

I really loathe drag. It makes me feel very uncomfortable. I acknowledge this is probably my issue, but would hate to watch a drag act. Seeing Craig Revel Horwood in drag on Strictly last year made me cringe...

Thinkingabout1t · 18/02/2020 00:18

About the title: I don’t think it’s that people are «still» against drag. I think it was generally accepted as a bit of harmless fun in the past. Maybe Attitudes have hardened as it has become associated with transgenderism, or it is more confrontational.

WhereShallWeMoveTo · 18/02/2020 05:13

Alltheminx I know what you mean. I don’t mind very, very camp overtly gay men in the slightest, in fact I quite like them in comedy and entertainment. But there has always been something about drag that turns my stomach a bit. I remember seeing Danny La Rue on TV as a child and finding him singularly unfunny, not entertaining in the slightest and I was mystified at what the attraction was.

12345kbm · 18/02/2020 10:33

There was an audience with Lily Savage in the 90s with Princess Di in the audience. It's hardly something kept to dark bars. Dame Edna Everage was Prime TV as was Julian Clary.

I think we're moving away from it in the same way we moved away from comedians like Bernard Manning. Comedy has always been dominated by men, stand up as well as TV comedy and still is dominated by male writers. Unfortunately, that's why we see so many two dimensional 'shrews' and female stereotypes.

I'm wondering how long a female comedian would last who dressed up as a stereotypical gay male, called men 'cheese' because of their smelly genitals and minced around the stage waving limp wrists, lip syncing It's Raining Men.

MsTSwift · 18/02/2020 10:43

Absolutely 123. Also surely the “upside” of drag is minimal there are so many more that don’t like it the time has come for it be sidelined. Certainly shouldn’t be on mainstream tv

12345kbm · 18/02/2020 11:02

I think the fact it is on mainstream TV shows how embedded misogyny is in our culture.

10 women a day are murdered in Mexico where a woman was recently skinned and thrown into the gutter. They put pictures of her corpse in national newspapers. Women are currently demonstrating about the hatred of women in a country where femicide is part of everyday life. Or how about India where sexual violence is endemic and they've aborted 10 million girls in the last 20 years.

Rape convictions are at their lowest in a decade in the UK and we have women called Fish while men parade around acting like the worst stereotypes of femininity. I have no idea why that's considered acceptable mainstream viewing.

bluehighlighter · 18/02/2020 12:08

Man in 1600. Just wear what you like and leave women out of it.

To wonder if a lot of people are still against drag ?
M3lon · 18/02/2020 13:05

tania - delphe laughed at the name 'Molestia Child'

just good old fashioned fun laughing at peadophilia....

DelpheDaisy · 18/02/2020 15:36

And, Anna Bortion. Difference between joke and actuality. I've been sexually assaulted but still laugh at a rape joke.

12345kbm · 18/02/2020 16:46

@DelpheDaisy Is there a difference between racism and a racist joke? Is there a difference between a homophobic joke and homophobia?

You laugh at rape and rape victims?

DelpheDaisy · 18/02/2020 20:19

Of course there is. I'm bisexual, gay jokes don't bother me. I've been sexually abused as a kid, yet laugh at rape jokes. My older brother died from cancer as a kid, I still laughed at the Jade Goody cancer jokes.

It's not symbolic of real life scenarios imo. What I laugg at when joked about, I would find devastating in actuality.

bluehighlighter · 19/02/2020 10:12

Laughing at sexuality is very different from joking at a very serious crime of violence.

DelpheDaisy · 19/02/2020 13:26

Laughing at sexuality is very different from joking at a very serious crime of violence.

I bet you don't like Cards Against Humanity. We are different people - I don't take jokes seriously.

VeryBowie · 20/02/2020 14:13

@delphedaisy please can we play Cards Against Humanity, I have an expansion pack and dying to use it!

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