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To wonder if a lot of people are still against drag ?

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INXS998 · 12/02/2020 21:41

Shows like Drag Race have become incredibly popular. I have tickets to see the live show in May, and I think drag culture is amazing. It shows how far we have come that such a show is so popular on TV, and I think it should be celebrated.
I asked some friends if they wanted to come to the show with me and they very firmly and quickly told me that they were not fans of that sort of stuff.
When I was a teenager, I used to think Drag Queens were just some middle-aged men on Canal street with a blonde wig and high heels, and I was quite intimidated and scared of them in a way. I wonder if some people still feel that way, and don't judge them for it, just curious.

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12345kbm · 14/02/2020 14:38

Cunt is affection when used to friends

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Reginabambina · 14/02/2020 14:39

Tbh I don’t see how drag is any different to black face. Powerful group dresses up in an insulting stereotype of oppressed group and profits from it. As a woman I find drag culture very insulting, both to me sense of womanhood and my sense of aesthetic taste.

Zurina · 14/02/2020 14:42

Ok, I get it, cunt to you guys is such a bad nasty word. Hmm. It's one I use almost everyday. You do you, I'l do me.

Zurina · 14/02/2020 14:45

Well then, I guess some of us just aren't as super-cool and uber-edgy as others.

It's not about being cool or edgy. This is normal for me. It was normal when I was a teen. It's the way you lot think that is alien to me.

12345kbm · 14/02/2020 14:47

Embrace the women's movement @Zurina. Move to the light side of the force. You are most welcome and you might find it very healing. Become a feminist. You're still allowed to paint your nails but may have to park the slut shaming.

GCAcademic · 14/02/2020 14:49

Good lord, the mental gymnastics some people will perform to sound cool. Hmm

fuckitywhy · 14/02/2020 14:50

So being ageist is okay now is it?

BlooperReel · 14/02/2020 14:54

I think drag is awful, grotesque parodying of womanhood.

fuckitywhy · 14/02/2020 14:56

Honestly, us women with our "old" sort of nonsense. Daring to suggest that there are some men out there who don't like women. What are we like?

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 14/02/2020 14:59

It's not about being cool or edgy. This is normal for me. It was normal when I was a teen. It's the way you lot think that is alien to me.

I didn't refer to anyone in particular. Only one pp has immediately concluded I specifically meant them. That's telling in itself.

fuckitywhy · 14/02/2020 15:01

Getting very cross and aggressive over the idea that women might find things insulting. Bizarre.

everybodyshowlove2020 · 14/02/2020 15:27

Thing is though there are many straight men who don't like women or respect them as equal, but that doesn't stop women working with them or dating them.

Many women will state MY OH isnt like that, until you get a divorce and he doesn't want to give you what is equally yours or support your dc fairly.

I can't understand how a small section of drag, watching a few episodes of a show can still make people hate a whole thing.

Pp keep bring up the race to compare but how would pp react to black people hating white people because some of you white folks are KKK members or because they are more likely to get killed by white police officers?

MaryShelley1818 · 14/02/2020 15:56

I would never ever go and watch Drag, I just find it really cringey and uncomfortable. Nothing entertaining about it at all.

12345kbm · 14/02/2020 15:58

There are many drag acts that aren't gay. They take off the wig and heels and go back to their wives.

I'm not sure I understand the point you're making. Lots of men are misogynist therefore drag acts are ok...

Two women a week die at the hands of a partner or former partner. Women commit suicide because of abuse and rape. Women can't take off the wig and chicken fillets and not be the subject of centuries old oppression.

Some bloke caricaturing them and calling them 'fish' doesn't help matters.

Doggyperson · 14/02/2020 16:02

I went to funny girls in Blackpool in December. It was so sad as all the drag queens look utterly miserable. There's one local to us who dj's in pubs and he's dead miserable too. I've yet to meet a cheerful drag queen yet.

I just want to hug them and ask them their problems.

cavabiensepasser · 14/02/2020 16:04

Oooh. Well, that's us, boring 'old' women told. Cause there's nothing worse than being an old woman yo.

FWIW I'm mid twenties. But whatever. No I don't call my friends 'slut'. Fairly sure I'm edgier than thou too. Grin

fuckitywhy · 14/02/2020 16:13

I don't get the KKK/police analogy. What on earth do you mean?

Zurina · 14/02/2020 16:14

See what I mean - "edgier than thou". This isn't about edgy, it's not an act Confused how strange that you think it is.

As for "you can still paint your nails" it's fairly obvious the type of woman you think I am and you're wrong. Hmm

"Getting very aggressive and cross" you can't genuinely think it's very aggressive? Have you never been around actual aggression?

And the "old" comment was directly to Gertrude because of her previous "I hate to sound like a gran", which is ageist in itself, so.

fuckitywhy · 14/02/2020 16:15

Nonsense, Doggy. I think you'll they're that they're all living their best authentic lives and are happily spending their time celebrating women.Hmm

Oblomov20 · 14/02/2020 16:16

I don't like it. I don't want to watch it. The only good thing is that most of the men have better makeup techniques than me.
Are you surprised that most if your friends don't want to go ?

Zurina · 14/02/2020 16:17

Daring to suggest that there are some men out there who don't like women. What are we like?

I know men hate women. Been there done that. You think I don't know that?

AngelsSins · 14/02/2020 16:30

Pp keep bring up the race to compare but how would pp react to black people hating white people because some of you white folks are KKK members or because they are more likely to get killed by white police officers?

But we don’t hate men, we hate misogyny, so your analogy doesn’t work! It should say, how would you feel about a black person hating racism/racist white people = I’m good with that!

nachthexe · 14/02/2020 16:31

One of my friend’s dd’s is on the drag scene. She’s been performing for a couple of years. Came out as non-binary and uses her stage name full time, so we aren’t allowed to call her ‘she’ any more. Met and married a male drag artist who performs as a woman but also identifies as non-binary. In secret. Didn’t tell family but staged a giant drag/ queer wedding. (Yes, totally heterosexual relationship). Much ado. Eventually told family she got married a year later. Despite it having been broadcast all over tinternet to much wild acclaim for being so brave and authentic and queer.
I’m all for trashing gender as a concept. But that isn’t what drag is doing. Drag seems to be fighting conformity, but it isn’t. It isn’t celebratory. It isn’t destroying stereotypes. It isn’t about being true to yourself. It’s entirely about performance, spectacle, attention, narcissism, and is a poor excuse for misogyny.

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Babybel90 · 14/02/2020 16:53

If a man wants to wear a dress, long hair and make up then fine, be a man in a dress but drag is akin to black and white minstrels in my book.

I totally agree with this making women out to be ridiculous, unhuman caricatures, tottering about out-bitching each other

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