To think Labour are not a party for women/girls

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Long-Bailey, Rayner and Nandy have all made public their support of a statement that demands the expulsion from the party of anyone who doesn’t agree with basically replacing current sex based rights/laws/social norms with gender/identity based rights - so if you think women are female, that female sports and prisons etc should be for females etc -then you are a transphobic bigot and should be thrown out of the party.

They're a party for non-transphobic women and girls.

By which you mean, they're a party for obedient women and girls.

Or submissive women and girls if you prefer.

Women and girls who don't question male authority to define reality and who will ride roughshod over their own gut feelings and instincts, to not lose their tribal affiliations.

Transphobic as you use it, simply means anyone who recognises reality and refuses to go along with the latest witch-craze.

When it's all over, you and these idiots in the Labour party are going to look jolly silly.

And fucking Boris Johnson will probably still be PM. He'll go on for fucking years because that red wall is not going to be rebuilt by expelling people who aren't so open minded that their brains have fallen out.

That was my point, @Peregrina!

The Trouble with the Red Wall, is that a lot of them were/are misogynistic blokes, so they will neither know nor care how real women, i.e. those of us who have vaginas, will be affected.

The Trouble with the Red Wall, is that a lot of them were/are misogynistic blokes

Not trying to generalise too much, but ‘that’ type of bloke has been lost to Labour for a long time.

The fact that all the candidates are promising to bring back free movement of people will put them off for starters.

I am a Labour and Jeremy Corbyn supporter who canvassed at the last two general elections. Once Jeremy formally steps down I am considering leaving the party over this nonsense. I find myself politically homeless as I would never vote Tory... or Libdem or Greens for that matter either.

The Trouble with the Red Wall, is that a lot of them were/are misogynistic blokes, so they will neither know nor care how real women, i.e. those of us who have vaginas, will be affected.

That is possibly true, although those men will have wives, daughters, mothers and sisters who they care about, and I'd question if these men are any more misogynistic than a lot of the metropolitan bearded hipster types that work in universities and the media anyway. However they are also likely to be the kind of people who don't tolerate fools spouting obvious shite and who dislike being told how they must think. This was one of the most seriously off-putting aspects of the Labour GE campaign - woke and aggressive activists all over social media, throbbing with self-righteousness, calling people bigots, and telling them to fuck off and vote Tory if they weren't 100% signed up to Corbynism.

@SeaWitchly do you accept that it was Jeremy Corbyn that lost Labour the election?

The Labour Party is dead.

YANBU.

The Labour Party is on a mission to alienate the entire electorate. And unsafe for any woman who dares to have an opinion.

YADNBU op and thank you for posting in this topic so more women can see exactly what the Labour Party are up to, it’s shocking and bloody despicable

Can only fight from within

I'm all for having an effective, viable opposition, but what exactly does this mean?

It hasn't worked to date; and with all 4 leadership candidates endorsing the twaw line and all the actual female ones going on record to say women who don't like it aren't welcome in the party - how does your big fight back plan have a hope in hell?

(And if Nandy gets in, you'll be forcibly expelled anyway!)

Continuing to give your 'custom' to this Labour Party only emboldens their misogynistic tactics.

Labour can fuck right off as far as off can fuck, then fuck off some more. They didn’t get my vote last time and at this rate I won’t have to vote for them over my dead body because they’ll be dead and buried long before I am.

I read a statement by Debbie Hayton, a transgender person, Debbie is not welcome in the Labour Party anymore. Debbie doesn't believe that human beings can change sex. So Debbie's views are now regarded as transphobic by some parts of the Labour Party.
A transgender person is now regarded as transphobic.
You may think 10 years of Boris, I think we're looking at 15 maybe 20 with this misogynistic policy
I've knicked this from a very well known misogynist.
Enjoy your erasure Labour Party.

I can't believe that this is where we have arrived with Labour. I'm not a party member but have always been a Labour voter. I never liked Corbyn but after a lot of indecision I still voted Labour in December because in my constituency it made sense to. When JC announced he was going I had hope. I used to rate KS. I wonder where Labour and the country will be by the next election.

@Smilethoyourheartisbreaking

Any time any one has a different view on these thread thet are attacked. Riddle me that
It says a lot about you that you feel you're being attacked by words on a screen. This is a very emotive issue. Women have strong feelings about their sex based rights being removed.
People have very strong feelings about being ordered to think a certain way.
Boris has an 80 seat majority, if the Labour Party cannot form a credible opposition then Boris may be looking at an even bigger majority.

Smile I'm staying and fighting.
I respect those who don't - we need their protest.

But I also look at the political landscape and realise we need people on the inside, too.

It's shit, frankly.

I'm so angry.

Why on earth has this trans lobby got so powerful? All the Opposition parties are playing the same game, to say men who ID as women are women.

Does it work the other way when women self ID as men that they can will prizes solely for men, attend all male clubs?

What happens when a trans man who IDs as a woman has a physical health problem related to his sexual organs - does he refuse treatment for say prostate problems because he's a woman? Men can get breast cancer though, however they ID.

I really think we've got bigger things to worry about. Brexshit, climate crisis, impending doom, being governed by a cartel of evil bastards. I don't give a fuck what gender someone is or wants to be, or what we call them, we just need rid of the conservatives.

And I naively thought this was a LD problem!