Acquitted but still impeached ... Trump thread 99

[TheClaws]

I’ll tell you a funny story. I’m a member of a very right-wing US politics online discussion group for kicks. The moderator of the group controls - and gets involved in - every discussion. (I should say the membership of this group is over 50K and the number of posts a day is generally 30 or so.) She’s also a typical Trumpian in that she reels off the standard “lamestream mass media” etc lines” and she mutes anyone who disagrees with her.

Anyway, I took her on eventually. She said that the Democratic candidates wanted to get rid of the Constitution. To this, I replied Trump flouts the Constitution on a regular basis. “What? Provide examples!” she replies. “Emoluments clause,” I replied. “That’s just one.”

GUYS. SHE HAD NOT HEARD OF THE EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE.

She then just spat something about she doesn’t read mass media lies and that’s why she didn’t know and muted me.

AIBU?

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3776378-Happy-Impeachment-Next-step-is-removal-Trump-thread-98

This would have been fun to watch.

Trump reportedly almost tweeted that Tom Hanks was dead when he read that he had been discharged from hospital.

trib.al/boeVSmF

Sounds like he wanted to experience the relief of thinking 'thank goodness the virus got Tom and not me'

www.npr.org/2020/03/19/818192535/burr-recording-sparks-questions-about-private-comments-on-covid-19

'The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee warned a small group of well-connected constituents three weeks ago to prepare for dire economic and societal effects of the coronavirus, according to a secret recording obtained by NPR.

The remarks from U.S. Sen. Richard Burr were more stark than any he had delivered in more public forums.

On Feb. 27, when the United States had 15 confirmed cases of COVID-19, President Trump was tamping down fears and suggesting that the virus could be seasonal.'

He's now referring to himself as a "Wartime President". That's simply disgusting. To put himself on the same footing as Lincoln and FDR is obscene.

Next it'll be BoJo putting himself on the same footing as Churchill!

Botris has always had a bit of that 'I'm channelling Winston' vibe.

Do you think Trump knows the first thing about FDR or Lincoln?

I hope he knows they are no longer living at least ...

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/19/tulsi-gabbard-quits-democratic-presidential-race

All he knows is that Lincoln was a Republican. What he doesn't know is that during that era the Republican party was the more progressive, anti-slavery party and the Democrats (particularly the Southern Democrats) were the more conservative party.

If Lincoln were alive today, he'd be a Democrat.

Gabbard tossing her endorsement to Biden says two things:

1-she's realizing that this election is about beating Scrotus. In 'normal times' her ideology is more closely aligned with Sanders.

2-she's angling for VP

Current delegate count as of today (1991 needed):
Biden 1181
Sanders 885

I forgot she was still running.

Like when you finish a game of hide and seek but overlook one of the players.

He may be a wartime President, but he'd be Camberlain for a close equivalent or even W for digging the US into Iraq and Afghanistan.

Chamberlain!!!

Even Chamberlain would be insulted by that comparison.

Well, the entire state of California has been put on a 'Stay At Home' order.

I think Chamberlain would be right to be insulted: he was a well-meaning and selfless person, than which it would be hard to find someone more opposite to the Orange Blot.

Don't some historians argue that Chamberlain knew the war was inevitable and signed the treaty to buy whatever time he could so that the country could be slightly better prepared? Especially the military/RAF.

slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/09/neville-chamberlain-was-right-to-cede-czechoslovakia-to-adolf-hitler-seventy-five-years-ago-the-british-prime-signed-the-munich-pact.html

Neville or Austen? The former was, as Churchill said, not a bad mayor of Birmingham in an off-year. The latter was a nincompoop.

Austen supported Churchill's calls for rearmament in the thirties, mind.

My apologies to Chamberlain.
I suppose Trump may already be in the category of leaders that can't be compared with anything else, a bit like, ahem, Hitler.

.....a bit like, ahem, Hitler

Ah yes, another wartime 'Head of State'. Just like Scrotus.

It is quite hard to find a comparison.

Pond sludge?

Nope.

Even that has a useful function in the eco-system.

‘A number of new stars’: The definitive guide to the Trump administration’s coronavirus response team
www.statnews.com/2020/03/20/guide-to-trump-administration-coronavirus-response-team/

“I’ll let Mike answer that” has become something of a presidential catchphrase.

As businesses shutter to promote social distancing, he has backed efforts to send Americans who’ve been laid off a hefty check in the mail — perhaps in excess of $1,000.
I assume that was a cynical "hefty".

Oh Whoopee!! $1000 whole dollars! Not spit in a bucket to the $Trillions that he wants to send to businesses in the form of bailouts. And you can bet that none of those trillions are going to end up in the pocket of the lowest paid employees in the form of paid leave.

And, surprise surprise (not), the payments scale downwards based on earnings. So the ones that earn the least (and need the money the most) will get around $600, if they get anything at all. The 'higher earners' will get up to $1200.

At least they're talking about 'capping' the payments based on income. DH and I probably won't qualify but I'm OK with that. As it stands, we don't need it. Others do and probably won't benefit much from it.

Similar thoughts here AcrossthePond55. I feel the money should be going directly to laid off workers, workers in industries that are genuinely struggling to pay them, and people on low incomes.

My friends with secure jobs don't need $1000, and they're not going to go out and spend it on anything that's going to boost the economy right now.

Exactly, Lobster!

But we gotta keep those 'job creators' in caviar and Cadillacs, don't we? You know, those huge corporations that are screaming "We won't survive without a bailout" yet are expecting their employees to survive on nothing or next to nothing. Unemployment doesn't go far.

I see that New York State is also shutting down. I'm not surprised. From your user name I assume you may be 'East Coast-ish'. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.