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Michael Barrymore

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ChairsAndStairs · 06/02/2020 21:29

I’ve always wondered why his career was so badly damaged by what happened at his house.

It was awful that a man died, but he was never found guilty and it was never proved that he was in any way involved - as far as I remember.

He was so popular before and had a really strong career. AIBU to wonder why people turned against him so quickly?

I don’t mean this to be a goady thread, just generally wondering why he was the ‘only’ fall guy for what happened.

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YesIDoLoveCrisps · 08/02/2020 14:17

I never knew so much about this case until I read this thread. It’s horrific.
Who were the other people at MB’s house? Friends of his? Or random people from the night out?

FAQs · 08/02/2020 14:22

Things bothering me are, lying about the swimming, MB injury, he was seen to change clothes, leave carrying a bag of objects, checked into rehab the next day for 5/6 weeks.

Denied the injuries of Stuart occurred at his house when it’s clear they occurred at some point at his house. Still claiming if they occurred it was whilst slipping in the pool. The potential although flaky past allegations. Admitted drug use. Stuart such a high mixture of drugs and alcohol in his body it’s likely he was unconscious, there was likely no need for anyone to restrain him. Lack of actual cause of death, not clear it was due to drowning.

SouthWestmom · 08/02/2020 14:25

I don't buy that the women were too scared to speak. One was 17 and one was the sister of Justin Merritt. So they are either protecting them or were involved. MB isn't the bloody mafia or local gangster. Alright if you witnessed some organised crime you might consider staying quiet but now? In their shoes I would go to the police and insist on making a statement on all I knew (even if it was I say in the kitchen all night) and then make that public.

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 08/02/2020 14:26

They didn't say they were chatting in the kitchen with the music on loud. They haven't said anything, after all these years.

Yes true, I'm just trying to get my head around it. Who could stand by while they did that to someone? Although didn't one of the women say they saw MB rubbing the cocaine on to SL, if you were guilty too would you say that?

Roussette · 08/02/2020 14:27

MB's partner at the time, Johnathon Kenney, and people who he'd only met that night, plus a sister or two. JK has made no public statement about what went on and only spoke at the inquest. Not surprising.

aroundtheworldyet · 08/02/2020 14:30

If he was off his face passed out the. He might not have made a lot of noise during the assault. Especially If you’ve got them in a headlock and covering their mouth.

I feel deeply suspicious of the chef and his mate who were local and turned up much later 3-4am and popped into Barrymores house. And then fled the scene. They were the ones that pulled him out of the pool too.

bruffin · 08/02/2020 15:24

He might not have made a lot of noise during the assault
Neighbours reported to the police that the heard screams at 5am

aroundtheworldyet · 08/02/2020 15:40

@bruffin
Interesting
I didn’t know that.

dayswithaY · 08/02/2020 16:05

I hope and pray that someone present at the scene that night finally comes forward. It's very possible that at least one person would have seen everything but had no direct involvement. Maybe they think they will be in trouble for not coming forward sooner or for not stopping the attack. The police won't care about that if they can provide vital evidence. I really hope someone's conscience has been troubled after that documentary and they do the right thing. It only takes one person to talk for the others to follow suit and then the whole facade will fall part. Someone please be brave.

Pulpfiction1 · 08/02/2020 18:28

Stuart such a high mixture of drugs and alcohol in his body it’s likely he was unconscious, there was likely no need for anyone to restrain him.

The doc said he had the equivalent on 9 pints if beer, a small amount of coke and a large amount of Mdma.

Mdma is an upper, so he wouldn't have been passed out. Hopefully he would have been so off his head he didn't feel the pain and didn't really know what was going on.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 08/02/2020 18:34

I would hope so but I actually doubt that was the case , sadly.

Jimineycricket · 08/02/2020 19:08

Reasons why MBs career was sunk

  1. A man was horrifically raped and murdered in his house after spending an evening with him.
  2. Instead of helping the investigation and providing answers he buggered off to save his own skin
  3. He has painted himself as the victim of this poor guy selfishly dying at his house/after being subjected to a serious assault
  4. He has lied and lied - said the victim
Had no injuries and was raped at the hospital.
  1. Has paid people off to protect himself ( hence why police are offering money as a reward to get them to talk.
  2. He marketed himself as a “ family entertainer “ and was caught in a drug fuelled sexual incident.
  3. A guy died after being brutally raped at his house after spending an evening with him
FAQs · 08/02/2020 21:03

@Pulpfiction1 he was on small build and had 3 times the drink drive limit of alcohol plus a combination of 4 different drugs enough to kill him, plus injuries consistent with strangulation/choking so he could potentially have been unconscious, and no one knows who was screaming, it could have been any of them, inch the others trying to encourage or stop the others.

Michael Barrymore
wedding33 · 08/02/2020 22:33

The broken wrist on Dancing On Ice was very convenient ...

I think ITV found out the contents of the latest documentary and didn't want him in the programme when it was going to be aired. He needed a reason to pull out ...

wedding33 · 08/02/2020 22:39

Sorry - I've just seen that someone had already posted that about the 'wrist injury'

Jeannie84 · 08/02/2020 22:42

I think it was planned from the start ! I think the girls no exactly what they were doin they prob were there to coax the straight guys in get the straight guys back to the party Michaels off his nut on whatever they prob all were he even said to the taxi driver I could do with a f### right now ! I'm sure theyve done it before I'm sure there a few blokes out there that have been to his partys that haven't come forward that something happened hes in a straight nightclub in the first place I reckon the girls are like wing men get spots a straight guy he fancies tells the girls they chat him up and say theres a party back at his he wants to go because he famous then when he goes theres drink and drugs flowing ones a bouncer prob knows how to restrain someone who's to know it wasnt him or even just been given roo much drugs whatever's happened happened hes died they put him in the pool or it's happened in the pool someones hid evidence no crime without evidence ! Hes prob still off his head and scattered or prob planned it in his head and thought if ever anything did happen how would I get away with it ? Premeditated it ?

Pulpfiction1 · 08/02/2020 22:46

@FAQs

You may not have ever taken a mix of ecstacy, coke and alcohol. But trust me, it would not knock you out.

Someone said why would he be restrained when he was likely unconscious from the drugs - my point is those drugs are uppers, he would not be unconscious. They would have had to restrain him and it would have been multiple attackers.

KatherineJaneway · 08/02/2020 22:58

Has paid people off to protect himself

Is there evidence of this? Paying off people at the party?

MarthasGinYard · 08/02/2020 23:13

So they have proof he silenced two witnesses with money?

Why on Earth hasn't he been convicted

aroundtheworldyet · 08/02/2020 23:16

Interesting.

Can’t they seize the bank history of those people?

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 08/02/2020 23:16

His face is painful to look at,even when he's smiling it looks like a grimace. I don't think I've ever seen anyone who wears their guilt on their face quite as much as he does.

longwayoff · 08/02/2020 23:17

That Telegraph article is a shocker. Surely it's illegal to "pay off" witnesses? He should be arrested for that alone. Seems he has a total free pass. How does that work?

aroundtheworldyet · 08/02/2020 23:19

Yes you would have thought he could be charged with bribery alone. There must be a reason for it,

SouthWestmom · 08/02/2020 23:19

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2002/dec/29/broadcasting.pressandpublishing

This is very interesting from 2002. A sympathetic interview with The Guardian and the 'new' medical evidence in detail.

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