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IvyBush123 · 2020-02-04T06:41:39+00:00

I am not sure if there is reason to worry about the new Coronavirus. I am not a medical expert but to be honest feel a bit scared because we know so little and some experts seem worried. How do you think?

meredithgrey1 · 08/02/2020 15:39

Also no news on whether any of the Arrowe Park quarantined have caught the virus ?

Since they've told us about other confirmed cases I imagine no news means no one has tested positive.

LoadsaBlusher · 08/02/2020 15:57

meredithgrey I hope this is the case

I was feeling very calm, logical and rational about all of this until I fell down a bit of a Reddit rabbit hole last night ...

NemophilistRebel · 08/02/2020 16:41

Not too sure if it’s reassuring or more concerning that the 5 positive with NCP in The alps was caused by the British man who tested positive this week in Brighton.

So he had caught in Singapore, came back to Uk, went on a holiday with friends in a chalet in France for a week skiing and then back to Uk.

They all started feeling poorly whilst out there but he was in a bad state by the end which was why he contacted the hospital when back.

This is reassuring to me because - they have tracked the cause

This is worrying because of all the people he would have been in contact with on the slopes, in the taxis, in the planes, at the airports.

I also had previously reassured myself that with the upcoming travel to Europe we are doing that we would be ok with going from small airports as people aren’t coming into those airports from mainland China or Singapore. But this has shown that snot the case now

gingerbreadslice · 08/02/2020 16:45

Does anyone think if we just stayed indoors for the duration of this we'd be okay until it passed? Obviously it isn't a possible thing for everyone to do but some people could do this

NaturalBornWoman · 08/02/2020 16:52

Not too sure if it’s reassuring or more concerning that the 5 positive with NCP in The alps was caused by the British man who tested positive this week in Brighton

Where have you read that? On the news last night it said that he'd been contacted by Singapore as someone at the conference tested positive.

NemophilistRebel · 08/02/2020 16:55

Il find the report

It’s being discussed in more detail on another forum at how it would be helpful to the public to know this information rather than just saying it’s another person from the same conference

HairyFloppins · 08/02/2020 16:57

Does anyone think if we just stayed indoors for the duration of this we'd be okay until it passed? Obviously it isn't a possible thing for everyone to do but some people could do this

I would and I am planning on staying in as I work from home. My elderly parents can stay in. My DH and my children have to go to work/college/school so they can bring it home. No one is safe from it really,

NemophilistRebel · 08/02/2020 17:00

Here is link regarding the 5 people in France and that it was the British Man who had been in Singapore www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/08/coronavirus-five-new-cases-in-france-are-british-nationals

dayowl · 08/02/2020 17:01

I’m crapping myself tbh

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/02/2020 17:10

The Chinese have not been completely transparent. In speed of reporting, in punishing whistle blowers, in death rates

This is only what I'd expect, but a recent BBC news report about the death of the Chinese wbistleblowing doctor was notable for its very subtle phrasing
While repeatedly referring to him as a victim, they carefully avoided any suggestion that it's actually the virus which killed him

The inference was sadly obvious ...

FourTeaFallOut · 08/02/2020 17:21

So, the Brighton guy, who was only confirmed yesterday, who has been in the country since the end of the month, was contagious enough to infect 5 people prior to his arrival in the country - great. Hopefully someone will tell me he put himself into quarantine straight off the plane.

woodchuck99 · 08/02/2020 17:31

Obviously he didn't quarantine himself. He doesn't seem to have infected his own family though so at least that something. Maybe he wasn't feeling well by the time he got the UK and didn't go out much. The parents of one child associated with the family have been told to quarantine them and they have told the school.

NaturalBornWoman · 08/02/2020 17:32

Hopefully someone will tell me he put himself into quarantine straight off the plane.

This isn't great is it. The BBC last night definitely said that Brighton guy had come home from Singapore and been contacted because someone else at the conference had tested positive. He had then presented himself at a specialist facility for testing, gone home and self quarantined and then been moved to hospital when the test came back positive. That's what they said. Not that he'd taken multiple flights and been swanning around skiing and god knows what for over a fortnight. It looks like he's got a kid whose been going to school now too.

Thanks for finding and sharing the piece NemophilistRebel

NemophilistRebel · 08/02/2020 17:33

He has caused one other person to be tested , someone from a university or school.

But we don’t know if they will be positive yet

And no one yet would have any idea they were ok any of the same planes as him.

One from Singapore to Uk, one to France and one back from France

FourTeaFallOut · 08/02/2020 17:33

You don't have to start with the obviously, I'd just left enough room to sick my head in the sand.

Delatron · 08/02/2020 17:41

Yep it’s all the plane journeys and travelling around by the Brighton guy that’s worrying.

He arrived in France on the 24th Jan to go
Skiing. I also arrived in France on 24th Jan to go skiing. Wonder which airport he went to. I’m guessing he flew back in to Heathrow. Used the bathrooms. The air circulating on the plane will be contaminated. I guess it’s a wait and see game now.

LauraKsWhiteCoat · 08/02/2020 17:43

@Puzzledandpissedoff

This is only what I'd expect, but a recent BBC news report about the death of the Chinese wbistleblowing doctor was notable for its very subtle phrasing
While repeatedly referring to him as a victim, they carefully avoided any suggestion that it's actually the virus which killed him

The inference was sadly obvious ...

Do you mean to suggest he may have been killed by something other than the virus? Was he imprisoned..?

NemophilistRebel · 08/02/2020 17:47

Delatron - interesting you talk about the air circulation

The people who are being quarantined on the cruise ship in their rooms all have air conditioning.
They have to as some rooms are internal without windows.
It makes no difference at all that any of them are kept in their rooms as if this is an airborne virus it is being repeatedly spread through the cycled air conditioning

NemophilistRebel · 08/02/2020 17:48

Do you mean to suggest he may have been killed by something other than the virus? Was he imprisoned..?*

Does the bbc know something that they aren’t allowed to report on?

FourTeaFallOut · 08/02/2020 17:51

Oh, so it's worse. I thought Brighton guy went from Singapore to France to England. Not Singapore-England-France- England.

I can see why my first post made no sense Woodchuck - sorry. I'd actually fallen for the official line that the carefully curated truth they were dishing out yesterday.

eenymeenyminyboo · 08/02/2020 17:52

I am concerned to some degree, I work in a pharmacy so will probably be first port of call for a lot of people, my dc1 has serious asthma so is in an at risk group as well.

I think it has gone beyond controlling and will at some point become a pandemic and that the best we can do is slow the spread while we look for successful treatments/vaccines.

Thankfully the vast majority of people do recover but what is concerning is the length of time it seems to take people to recover and that a high proportion seem to need intensive care/oxygen, if large numbers of people become ill health services may not be able to cope and people who could have lived may die, also people may die of other conditions if hospitals are overwhelmed and cannot provide treatment.

It's all very much wait and see at the moment but I think things may get a lot worse before it's over

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/02/2020 17:58

Do you mean to suggest he may have been killed by something other than the virus?

Does the bbc know something that they aren’t allowed to report on?

Like the rest of us I can't possibly know about either of these things; I simply thought it very obvious that the BBC were avoiding saying that the doctor died of the virus ...

NemophilistRebel · 08/02/2020 17:59

My thoughts is that with such a huge number of people already suffering from coughs and colds this winter (99% of my family as an example and nearly everyone at work too) when do people know that the cough is a sign of the virus and not common cold - the only answer I have been able to find so far is - when it’s too late and been spread to others

MagicalThinking · 08/02/2020 18:01

"I hope a cure is found ASAP like they did for swine flu and Ebola."

There are no cures for flu or Ebola. There are vaccines, of varying effectiveness. There's currently an outbreak of Ebola in the DRC that's been going on since 2018 and has killed at least 2250 people.

LauraKsWhiteCoat · 08/02/2020 18:01

Like the rest of us I can't possibly know about either of these things; I simply thought it very obvious that the BBC were avoiding saying that the doctor died of the virus ..

Yes that's what I was asking - simply wondering what you were inferring.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was mistreated in some way. But other reports did say he died of the virus. However there was considerable confusion over when he died, with multiple reports of his death retracted and denied before they finally announced it

[https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/china-li-wenliang-whistleblower-death-timeline-intl-hnk/index.html]