Response to first 2 UK cases of coronavirus not robust enough

[MissPoldark]

The hotel is still open and accepting visitors. Apparently they weren’t immediately informed that 2 of their guests had been diagnosed.
All public areas should have been deep cleaned but there is no suggestion this has been done.

No details are being released about where the tourists had visited (because of “patient confidentiality” - bureaucracy is dangerous) How on earth can anyone in York know whether they’ve been put at risk?
How can they trace possible contacts without making this information public?

@MyNewBearTotoro

A quick search on sky scanner won't give information about cancellations. It's shows scheduled flights. You have to go a bit further to check availability at which point many many flights will show as normal longer available'

'No longer available'

Ultimately the UK is at a very low risk of this becoming a health emergency.

How do you work that out? If thousands of people become infected do you seriously think the NHS would be able to cope or that just because people are hospitalised they won't die? They pretty much gave up trying to contain swine flu.

Swine flu infected 750,000 people in UK and the only reason it didn't kill a huge proportion is because by the time it got here it was milder disease (around the world half a million people died). It could have easily gone the other way with swine flu and it may do with this virus.

I wonder if/when we will actually stop flights? How many countries have done that so far?

Australia has . USA only allowing entry to family members from China or anyone normally resident in USA. Whole list of other countries with various restrictions.
Meanwhile we carry on as if nothing is happening and although the FCO has a “do not travel” advisory we are still accepting flights from China.

London is one if the cities at highest risk of an epidemic outside China.

Exactly MissPoldark I don't understand why we are not having any restrictions.

The Brighton man visited a pub in Hove last Saturday night. 3 days after he returned from the French ski resort. 5 of the pub staff are in self isolation.
Apparently his family aren’t showing symptoms, but...why haven’t they been tested anyway?

How about we just say that any international travellers have limited contact with others and effectively self isolate for 2 weeks on their return?

How would that work in reality ? Lots of people not going to work ? Teachers, Drs , bin men, ship assistants ?

Everyone can't just self isolate on the off chance

Shop assistants not ship 🤪 but then too. Just because you have been on holiday or near York you can't just isolate yourself !

The good news is that the healthy people probably won’t die and would just be unwell and recover. I find it’s healthy people who panic the most. The bad news it that people like me probably will die. It’s worrying but equally, the regular old flu could kill me. I have a mild sense of fear all the time that I’ll catch “just a virus”. I have nearly died on 2 occasions and it may very well happen again. Perhaps that’s made me complacent. I live with this constantly and live goes on for people like me.....until it doesn’t. I can not control that. I live my life to the best of my ability.

At this point in time, it is statistically very improbable that you or I will get the Coronavirus in the U.K. There’s no evidence at the moment to make me overly concerned.

Well, this is interesting!

@MumsnetHQ what about publishing a book documenting the mumsnet response to Coronavirus?!

All those posters saying it could never happen.

Ooh this is interesting to read now! I’m going to find some old COVID threads to have a laugh

Interesting going to read later

This is so interesting to read! I wonder how many of the posters saying it could never happen are still around.

I studied epidemiology as part of my degree and now a scientist in a medical micro lab, and I predicted this happening.
I got into so many arguments with people who told me I was wrong. Or accusing me of scaremongering. Saying we didn’t need to take the necessary precautions of closing borders.
Look at some sensible countries death rates compared to ours!
Hope this is a lesson for people to listen to the fucking scientists in future!

Ooooft. This thread is quite hard to read.

@Roundhole

How would that work in reality ? Lots of people not going to work ? Teachers, Drs , bin men, ship assistants ?

Everyone can't just self isolate on the off chance

😂😂😂😂

How about we just say that any international travellers have limited contact with others and effectively self isolate for 2 weeks on their return?

I don’t know whether to cry or laugh. Posts from another world.

People jumping at the poster advising the person with symptoms to stay home. Do you expect everything to close?!, they say.

The world will never be the same...

We have a good healthcare in the UK and generally our public and living areas are not overcrowded. We’re also fortunate that the virus hasn’t hit us until fairly late in the outbreak do we have some knowledge about what we’re dealing with it. The risk to the UK from the virus is far less than it would be if it hit underdeveloped countries with poor healthcare or than it has been in China where the virus was unidentified and able to spread. Ultimately the UK is at a very low risk of this becoming a health emergency.

This is my favourite . Thanks OP.

‘Well, so long as the quarantined guests arent sneezing all over the other guests I'm sure they'll be fine. ‘I assume that clever people who know a lot more about how the virus is transmitted than you or I will have come up with the quarantine arrangements’

We were so blissfully oblivious. And so trusting of the clever people.

I was watching the virus from when the rumours first started circulated. I joined an online group called “Global Pandemic Watch”. Of course there were plenty of nutters in there but there were a few of us who were predicting the way things would go and lockdown etc and I became friends with a few. The group is dead now but the sane ones of the group still keep in touch

My husband called me a nutter when I ordered masks in February. I did feel like a nutter at times, tbh.