Response to first 2 UK cases of coronavirus not robust enough

[MissPoldark]

The hotel is still open and accepting visitors. Apparently they weren’t immediately informed that 2 of their guests had been diagnosed.
All public areas should have been deep cleaned but there is no suggestion this has been done.

No details are being released about where the tourists had visited (because of “patient confidentiality” - bureaucracy is dangerous) How on earth can anyone in York know whether they’ve been put at risk?
How can they trace possible contacts without making this information public?

[OverTheRubicon]

@Samcro jinx!

[Juliecloud]

That’s interesting. DD1 (age 10) was completely floored by something in November 2019. Her temperature was really high for ages and she had a terrible sore throat. I had a horrific sore throat a couple of weeks later, I’ve never been in so much pain.

[Schuyler]

[quote ladypete]@Trafalger - do you think you had Covid now?!

@PhilCornwall1**@Schuyler - how are you both doing?[/quote]
Ended up in the high dependency unit a few weeks after posting with an unknown pneumonia. :(

A year down the line, I’d say I’m more concerned for my older family members even the ones who are otherwise healthy. Interesting to look back and see my posts being rational when I remember feeling worried about the unknown.

[Bythemillpond]

It is the fact that the talk of the first 2 cases being in February.
We are sure we all had it in December. I know a lot of people who had all the symptoms in December.
I think by February it was already too late.
I know my son was with a group of people in late February and they all were ill. Some went to hospital and were tested and found to have the virus. He was the only one to not have anything. He also worked closely with another group of people later on in the year and again they all tested positive for Covid and he didn’t. I think immunity must last longer than the 3 months when the antibodies disappear

[ComDummings]

Only about 10% of tests were positive even in the peak so everyone who thinks they had it in November/December 2019 probably didn’t

[Bluesheep8]

....interesting to look back at what people were thinking at the start though.

[Bythemillpond]

Only about 10% of tests were positive even in the peak so everyone who thinks they had it in November/December 2019 probably didn’t

Can you explain why when it had been proven it was definitely here In December

[Mrbob]

@ComDummings

Only about 10% of tests were positive even in the peak so everyone who thinks they had it in November/December 2019 probably didn’t

There is nothing “only” about 10% positive. That is a LOT of missed cases as per guidance where you should expect 2-3% I think if you are picking up most.
It’s hard to know when it arrived. It would seem much earlier than thought initially but I don’t think there will ever be a definite (although in a functioning system they can review old swabs from viral illnesses from last year and there should be some indication on them and it would give a much clearer idea)

[nevernotstruggling]

I forgot. Dp had what suspect was covid in jan 2020. We were on holiday in Tenerife and he came down with what seemed like flu but different. When we got back to uk he needed 2 weeks off work. I was really worried about him. We flew back 31/12 to uk.

[LittleRa]

Threads like this are so interesting.

Here’s another one:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3806531-Aibu-tombe-scared-to-fly-to-Heathrow-because-of-coronavirus

Where some posters mocked the OP by saying things like “maybe you’ll eat a prawn cracker and get it” and “I’ve just walked past the Chinese Ready meals in the supermarket, maybe I’ll get it” and telling her to “get a grip” and “why don’t you wrap yourself up in cotton wool”.

[MarshaBradyo]

Looking for first thread this was 24/1

Even before first cases arrived. Good points about travelling in and seriousness

When I searched Covid got zero results looks like at some point we changed what we called it

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/3803841-Coronavirus-in-China

[ComDummings]

@Bythemillpond

Only about 10% of tests were positive even in the peak so everyone who thinks they had it in November/December 2019 probably didn’t

Can you explain why when it had been proven it was definitely here In December

Some people probably had it but most people who believe they had it then didn’t because many people who believe they have it now don’t still.

[MrsMauryBallstein]

So interesting to read this. The thread started on 1 Feb, 2 days before Johnson's Greenwich speech in which I seem to recall he criticised other countries for "panicking" about the virus, and then disappeared from view.... I, too, wish that MissPoldark had been in charge of our response!

[chomalungma]

I live in York and I remember seeing 2 Chinese students walking down the road wearing masks and I thought that looked really strange at the time. Often saw tourists wearing masks but not students.

It was a very strange atmosphere when we had the first 2 cases.

[poshme]

The preppers threads from jan/Feb are interesting too.
Lots of people ridiculing preppers who were stocking up in case of quarantine or lockdown. The sceptics were saying 'everyone has to go to work and school and that isn't going to stop'

[tttigress]

I think you should be careful what you wish for giving up basic rights, such as the right to privacy regarding medical records.

You might want to watch the Netflix series Chárite to see where the state having rights on you medical health leads to.

[ZoeTurtle]

@GreytExpectations

Hospitals are bracing for an influx of the worried well.

I worry about the already stretched NHS that will now be dealing with the paranoid and hysterical in the waiting rooms of GPS and a&es for every freaking sneeze and cough. Threads like these are just making it worse

And the worst prediction of all goes to GreytExpectations! In reality, A&E was empty and ICU wards were jammed.

[ChezLuce]

Oh God, this comment giving the op a bollocking!
"YABVU. Do you really think the government wants to risk this spreading? They are 100% doing everything they need to. Threads like this are massively unhelpful and just get people worried for no reason"

[ConquestEmpireHungerPlague]

God, I remember this time so well. I was mostly on the preppers threads with @ofwarren and others. It was so obvious what was coming but every thread had its naysayers. I had to stay off AIBU and Chat because there was so much mockery and sarcasm it was just unbearable.

I remember the end of February really vividly. We all thought schools wouldn't reopen after February half-term and were aghast when they did. I pulled my kids out early in the end and strong-armed my eldest into coming home from uni. He thought I was bonkers but did it to humour me and thought it would all be over in a few weeks - he's still here!

The fact that we were all discussing this weeks before the government woke up to the fact that extreme action was unavoidable is really damning tbh.

[Arobase]

@poshme

The preppers threads from jan/Feb are interesting too.
Lots of people ridiculing preppers who were stocking up in case of quarantine or lockdown. The sceptics were saying 'everyone has to go to work and school and that isn't going to stop'

To be fair, though, stocking up was never necessary. The only shortages were caused by panic buying.

[BubblyBarbara]

The rate of spread makes it look fairly innocuous. The hysteria is real.

Ridiculous. Thousands have died.

[MissPoldark]

I’m not sure I could have actually led the response, I think I was possibly far too anxious to do anything at the time and would have passed that baton to Dr John Campbell!!

I was incredibly frustrated with the way things were being handled at work. I remember trying to raise the alarm throughout February and suggested that we should start having more meetings by teleconference instead of in person, but people just seemed to be burying their heads in the sand.
Matt Hancock announced on the 10th feb that coronavirus presented a serious and imminent threat but even that wasn’t enough of a wake up call!

It’s a year to the day since I first posted about this on mumsnet. I first heard about it at the end of December but didn’t start getting really worried about it until later in January. People claimed that the media were whipping up hysteria but at this point I distinctly remember there really wasn’t very much in the news about it - if you were interested you had to go looking and seek out information.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3801822-To-be-concerned-about-the-new-coronavirus

[MarshaBradyo]

[quote MissPoldark]I’m not sure I could have actually led the response, I think I was possibly far too anxious to do anything at the time and would have passed that baton to Dr John Campbell!!

I was incredibly frustrated with the way things were being handled at work. I remember trying to raise the alarm throughout February and suggested that we should start having more meetings by teleconference instead of in person, but people just seemed to be burying their heads in the sand.
Matt Hancock announced on the 10th feb that coronavirus presented a serious and imminent threat but even that wasn’t enough of a wake up call!

It’s a year to the day since I first posted about this on mumsnet. I first heard about it at the end of December but didn’t start getting really worried about it until later in January. People claimed that the media were whipping up hysteria but at this point I distinctly remember there really wasn’t very much in the news about it - if you were interested you had to go looking and seek out information.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3801822-To-be-concerned-about-the-new-coronavirus[/quote]
Oh you started that one too! Definitely on the ball

I couldn’t find it earlier but has read it a while back when wondering about first threads on here

[MissPoldark]

It still took WHO another 9 days to declare an international health emergency

[Frodont]

Dd was hospitalised with asthma attack in January. She'd had a terrible cough and fatigue. I then got very ill and lost taste and smell.

Dd is at a boarding school. When the chinese girls from the school went home at lockdown they tested positive for antibodies.