Response to first 2 UK cases of coronavirus not robust enough

[MissPoldark]

The hotel is still open and accepting visitors. Apparently they weren’t immediately informed that 2 of their guests had been diagnosed.
All public areas should have been deep cleaned but there is no suggestion this has been done.

No details are being released about where the tourists had visited (because of “patient confidentiality” - bureaucracy is dangerous) How on earth can anyone in York know whether they’ve been put at risk?
How can they trace possible contacts without making this information public?

[teta]

The issue that worries me is that very few cases in China have actually recovered and have been released from Hospital. So while the death rates look low they may very well go up. Or at the very least some are being left with major health issues or long recoveries.
How will the UK cope?
I wouldn't necessarily have full confidence in our government bearing in mind they couldn't even evacuate a full flight of expats from Wuhan effectively.
This virus may well break the Nhs.
For those who say this is just a flu have a read up of some Biological facts.
Of course this virus may well become less virulent and fizzle out like Sars in the Warmer weather . Here's hopeing.

[ofwarren]

So Trafalgar, you have been mixing with newly arrived Chinese people and are now ill, yet are just "carrying on as normal"? It's people like you that spread this stuff! Why the hell would you not get checked?

[TeddyIsaHe]

@Trafalger ffs call 111 and get tested. You don’t know what it is. And if it coronavirus, you are spreading and ultimately may be responsible for adults and children dying.

Get medical advice today and stop being an idiot.

[MyNewBearTotoro]

At least 97% of people who contract the virus recover without the need for medical treatment/ hospitalisation, and this number is likely to be higher as people with very mild symptoms are unlikely to be tested positively for the virus.

People are largely hospitalised due to complications such as pneumonia and largely they are the elderly or infirm. Yes, for those who develop complications there may be a lengthy recovery period (although many sufferers have made a full recovery and have been released from hospital) but most people who develop the virus will not need hospital treatment. The fact that the small numbers of people who have contracted the virus in Europe have been hospitalised is likely a precaution and does not necessarily mean they are suffering the most severe symptoms or won’t make a full and quick recovery with minimal medical intervention.

[IlikebigMutts]

@Morgan12 good point that we never know if the person serving us in shop etc hasn't got flu however there is a flu vaccine that vulnerable and elderly people can have, there is no vaccine for novel Corona virus. The infection rate is higher. Also if you get complications from "ordinary" seasonal flu then there are antibiotics, antibiotics wont work on the pneumonia people may get with coronavirus. Plus the incubation period with flu is only 3 days with corona virus you can be symptom free yet carry the disease for 14 days.

[maryberryslayers]

@Trafalger that's disgusting behaviour. You may be able to just carry on with life as normal but what about babies, the elderly and immunocompromised people that you come in to contact with, your devil may care attitude could be fatal for them. Someone could loose a child or a parent directly because of you. How can you not care about that?

Do the decent thing and get yourself screened.

[MissPoldark]

At least 97% of people who contract the virus recover without the need for medical treatment/ hospitalisation
Hopefully it will be more than that but it’s still too early to say.

[MissPoldark]

I suppose one of the key things is whether trafalgar has a temperature. In the study of the first 99 patients, almost all of them had a temperature, although they were hospitalised patients.
I guess we can’t be sure where a milder illness would also cause a fever.

[MissPoldark]

@Morgan12 yes, I would be worried about that if I hadn’t had a flu jab!

[HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend]

I believe “trafalgar” is a troll, no one could be this idiotic and then float about it on a public forum

[showmewhatyougot]

I love how everyone who's read a few articles is now an expert and knows better then the people who have worked in infectious disease control for decades! Jesus Christ

[Emeeno1]

It is now being reported that one of the couple who tested positive for coronavirus is a student from the University of York which has over 18,000 students. There is a statement on their website.

[teta]

I don't believe she is. Boarding schools with large numbers of Chinese's students have only changed their advice this week. Last week students were still returning from China. Students are now told they may not be able to return to school if they go home to China and this ruling may spread to other Asian countries.
This coupled with the fact in a normal English Winter there are lots of cold/flu bugs going around would mean all international schools/colleges would have to close if we assumed in all cases it was this new Corona virus .

[NeverTwerkNaked]

@Trafalger I hope you are a troll.

[coconuttelegraph]

This coupled with the fact in a normal English Winter there are lots of cold/flu bugs going around would mean all international schools/colleges would have to close if we assumed in all cases it was this new Corona virus

And the NHS would presumably come under massive strain if everyone in this situation asked to be tested and workplaces might have to close down if there aren't enough employees.

Look at the statistics compared to normal flu and have a proportionate reaction

[GreytExpectations]

Calm down guys, trafalgar is clearing trolling (you alla re very gullible so it's easily done)

No details are being released about where the tourists had visited (because of “patient confidentiality”

OP, what the hell is wrong with you? Have some human decency and respect the privacy of the patients. The media would be brutal to them and they deserve to not have their details released!

[GreytExpectations]

Clearly* not clearing

[MissPoldark]

Bloody hell, you must think I want their name & address or something!! Just to say where they have been would not be breaching confidentiality as it would not be sharing any identifiable information.

[GreytExpectations]

It says where they were staying on the news sites. What else do you want? Would you also be asking for details of where every possibly person in your city who has had flu would have been? You are being utterly hysterical, OP. Get a grip

[hanahsaunt]

Hospitals are bracing for an influx of the worried well.

[GreytExpectations]

Hospitals are bracing for an influx of the worried well.

I worry about the already stretched NHS that will now be dealing with the paranoid and hysterical in the waiting rooms of GPS and a&es for every freaking sneeze and cough. Threads like these are just making it worse

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

?????

Not sure what news feeds you've been reading but there is a lot of info available about what is happening on campus and how their hotel room has been cleaned.

The hysteria over this will cost more, in money, mental health and lives, than the bloody disease will!

[MindyStClaire]

I'm laughing at everyone up in arms at Trafalgar. What she has described must be the case for half of my colleagues, including me now I think of it.

Our university has loads of Chinese students and staff, some of whom will have recently gone home to visit. It's also Jan/Feb. Everyone is mixing with Chinese people, everyone has colds. Same as it is this time every other year.

Thinking every sniffle is corona virus would be an overreaction that the health service couldn't handle.

[Trafalger]

Hahaha. I love how I am being called a troll. No I'm not trolling. I have a runny nose and a cough. My toddler also has the same. We have no temperature between us, we are just feeling a bit bleurgh like a cold makes you feel. I have also had contact with students from India, Mexico, America, middle east and numerous other countries. It has been arrivals week for international students at a lot of unis this week.

None of the students have presented as sick at our uni. I have called 111 and they have said they are 99% certain it is a cold as no one we have been in touch with as far as we know are ill. Again I stated I have no temp mine is 36.6 and my toddlers is 36.8 so no concerns.

Thanks for everyone calling me a troll. Business would grind to a halt if in peak cold and flu season we all had to take time off work with the sniffles due to a very small chance of contracting coronavirus.

[Trafalger]

Thank you @MindyStClaire you must be a similar position to me! Can you imagine the VC's reaction if we all called in sick Monday when new semester fully starts (our exams finished friday) cos of sniffles.