To find SOME Brexiteer gloating embarrassing?

[SirChing]

I have read threads saying that we have left and "nothing has happened, just like the millennium bug".

Well, that'll be because we are transition so the No Deal situation has been avoided - for now.

And the millennium bug didn't happen because loads of IT people worked their arses off for years to prevent it.

I have read a rant about us needing new passports for this summer costing £1000, due to remained MPs and civil servants wanting to "punish" leavers.

I am cringing at the level of gloating and "so nerr" posts on here, flinging about bollocks as facts, and celebrating something which noone seems to be able to demonstrate any positives for.

Just me?

Let them gloat. It won't last long.

MrPickles73

Hopefully we can all put it behind us now

I doubt it, some posters are far to entrenched in their views.

bingbangbing

It may also be because its the first time in a long time that their vote has actually meant or counted for something.

Certain Leaver voting in-laws have been smugly tub thumping on social media. Totally crass and ignorant, and forgetting that there are people like DP who have been catapulted into uncertainty by this. I certainly don’t wish any negative consequences on the UK, but can’t see how leaving the EU will be positive at all. And if it all goes tits up, every Leave voter should be held accountable. It’s what you wished for.

Gloating is unappealing whoever does it.

For all the gloating leavers there are plenty who are not.

That is undoubtedly true.

It doesn't make what they voted for right or beneficial to anybody other than the elite. By that, I mean the real elite. Not a few social workers in Islington or whoever the dafter leavers mean when they accuse remainers of being elite.

Leavers get the party, the flags and feeling part of something.

Personally, I'd rather have good food standards and a decent NHS.

My answer was aimed at the post who claimed it was snowflake behaviour to not like being called thick or racist.

Sadly some remainers cannot accept the decision without hurling abuse and insults at leave voters but that just says everything about them as a person.

I'm an ardent Remainer, I have never called anyone thick or biggoted; I hate all of that sort of language and "superior" thinking. I'm from an ex mining region and I totally understand where people are coming from when they don't see a future and feel that this current system hasn't worked for them, so why not vote for something else.

(I have less understanding of the educated , well off members of my family who voted Leave because I am genuinely bewildered by their motivations but that's another issue.)

I must have been on about sixty Mumsnet Brexit threads over the last few years, and have asked genuine questions of Leavers without being rude or snippy, and in only two cases in all that time, has a Leaver come back with a reasonable, considered answer. I'm afraid the majority of responses that have come back have been goady, sneary or rude. It's plain to see if you look back on those threads. So from my own personal experience just on Mumsnet, I think the rudeness against Remainers has been far worse than that levelled at Leavers tbh.

Which side was ruder, doesn't really matter anymore tbh, what's done is done, but let's not pretend that there haven't been huge insults bordering on quite frightening aggression at times emerging from the Leave camp.

And don't let us forget Jo Cox MP RIP either.

Snowflakes are awesome- get enough of them together and the entire country comes to a halt.

I'd love to ask the leavers on this thread why they voted for this.

There is no point as the answer will be:

"I can't engage in debate because you will call me thick or racist"

That had always been the answer on here.

Debate it pointless now. Sadly.

Lots of leave voters have put forward a solid reason but are instantly crushed by remain voters who are adamant that there argument is better in a gang mentality which is why leavers just dont bother.
You cant argue with a pack of vultures.

bingbangbing
I'd love to ask the leavers on this thread why they voted for this.

It has been answered many times by many posters, normally to the same response. or ignored entirely.

Various remainers are now trying to rewrite their part in why there is no or little debate about this.

See? There is no point in asking for an explanation as the leaver will simply say that they can't, because a Remainer might be horrible to them.

Which makes accusing people like me of being "vultures" just a touch ironic!

I don't mind, vultures are an essential part of the ecosystem. They're the street sweepers of the African plains.

I don’t agree with name calling and aggression from either side and I believe that healthy, civilised debate is the only way forward. But whenever a possible consequence of Brexit is raised, many from the leave side immediately say that it would happen anyway, or that it is ‘scaremongering’. I am unsure how one can have any sort of rational discussion with a group that refuses to even countenance the possibility that there will be some negative outcomes as a result of such a huge change.

bingbangbing
See? There is no point in asking for an explanation as the leaver will simply say that they can't, because a Remainer might be horrible to them.

See, this from someone that claims to have listened to both sides of the debate yet refuses to acknowledge that posters don't have to post things that will get vile comments in return.

Just re-writing history.

What utter nonsense.

What?

You don't have to post anything. You don't have to get out of bed as far as I'm concerned.

My point is, that there is a victim mentality here which is wierd for the side that won.

A "I'm not telling you what my reasoning is because you'll call me names, you moaning, snowflake vulture you!" point of view.

Which is more than a touch ironic.

My local Barnados charity shop has displays on union jacks up.
When I asked why it is to celebrate Brexit

AIBU to think that Barnados should not engage in activity that may be viewed to be political?

It is remain area. I give regularly to Barbados to such as extend that we used to have a direct paying in book.

I cant think that as a charity they will be positively (or indeed negatively) influence by Brexit- so why do they feel the need to celebrate?

I will no longer be giving to them.

I enjoyed seeing lots of tracksuit wearing youth grunting at the cameras and doing Nazi salutes.

How exactly will Brexit make their lives better? Will they retrain as surgeons or teachers once they get some basic qualifications?

an extent

I have read a couple of really good reasons why people voted leave. Sadly, not on this site though. All we are told on here is "we aren't telling you because you will abuse us" together with "we have told you loads of times". Often from the same poster. It's like Schroedingers explanation.

@BigPinkFlower it isn't the people who work there who benefit from the donations though. Even though they do seem rather politicised for a charity. It could just be the people who work there who have done it.

That's strange I never saw all these nazi saluting youths on the TV.
Yes I saw people of all ages celebrating with a drink and waving a few union Jack flags but that's about all.

Mumsnet should now move all Brexit related posts to the Brexit section of the site without exception.

Let the divisions heal and the nasty people on both sides of 2debate can argue amongst themselves.

happyandsingle

My thoughts exactly. Christ, we had the best part of 4 years of childish histrionics from remainers who didn’t get their own way.

I hope all fellow leavers have a bloody good, totally guilt free, celebratory weekend!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🍾