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Happy brexit day

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farage4PM · 31/01/2020 09:05

Thank god we are only a few hours away from being a free and independent and a global outlooking country! Happy VEU day everyone!!
Let's all join together, enjoy and celebrate our victory over antidemocracy and enjoy our new found and hard fought freedom!!

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DuckWillow · 01/02/2020 09:18

I think celebrations are a bit premature (and a tad pathetic tbh). We haven't left yet.
We're in a transition period which means we are still part of the EU (but with no say until we finally leave next year.)

That said I hope it will be the start of something positive and not the disaster some are predicting.

FagAsh · 01/02/2020 09:24

Enjoy losing your jobs and your freedom of movement, you absolute lemmings.

KidLorneRoll · 01/02/2020 09:27

Relief at what? Is it a poorer economy? Less rights? Saying goodbye to the union in a few years.

Muppets.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 01/02/2020 09:32

Sitting here on this glorious British Bulldog of a morning just waiting for all the benefits and improvements to start rolling in. Any minute now....right ?

DappledThings · 01/02/2020 09:33

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Totes. I'm expecting my unicorn to come trotting up the road any moment.

lovelyupnorth · 01/02/2020 09:35

@farage4PM

You clearly have no fucking clue how the Eu works.

Let’s see what happens on and after the 31/12 when we really see how fucking small and shitty are country is in the eyes of the world.

But at least Farage has his German citizenship and EU pension to live off.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 01/02/2020 09:36

Can people really not see how unreasonable it is to berate others for being unable to "pull together", "make the best of it" and "get behind" an idea so vague, intangible and lacking in any real substance that even the people who want it and voted for it are incapable of articulating the reasons why they want it? Maybe if someone explained to me in very clear terms what exactly we will be gaining by leaving the EU without resorting to parroting meaningless Farageisms about "sovereignty" and "taking our country back" then I could "get over it" and even "get behind it". But they won't. Not one single poster on this thread who has declared Brexit a "glorious", "victorious", "dawn of a new era" and told us they're hanging up the Union Jack bunting and cracking open the Champagne has actually been able to articulate what's so glorious about it!

So, how about this, I'll happily "pull together" and "make the best of it" when someone tells me exactly what it is that I'm supposed to be pulling together to achieve and why.

YouTheCat · 01/02/2020 09:39

Well said, Minister. Couldn't agree more.

lovelyupnorth · 01/02/2020 09:42

@Whizbang

A Democracy where on 37% of the voting population vote for something and 43% of the voters voted for the current government.

They’ve still no fucking plan or clue. They can’t even repeat the same message from one week to the next just look at the idiot chancellor’s comments about regulation.

They’re too busy pissing 105 billion up the wall to build a train to drain the midlands and north of more talent and selling the NHS and our food standards to the orange one who royally wants to fuck us up the arse.

Still waiting for any positive that might come out of this for the Uk

Borris couldn’t even change the deal negotiated by May - not that he really tried. How’s he going to be negotiating a trade deal with the EU.

lovelyupnorth · 01/02/2020 09:44

Well said @MinisterforCheekyFuckery far more eloquent than me.

Delatron · 01/02/2020 09:59

Well said @MinisterforCheekyFuckery. I’m 23 pages in to this thread and I have no idea what they are celebrating.

I know too well what we will be losing though. Let’s all celebrate shit maternity leave and loss of workers rights/ loss of holidays. I studied in Europe, my children won’t get that opportunity. I’m sad for them.

Would be really fantastic if someone would explain what there is to celebrate.

malylis · 01/02/2020 10:01

did leavers "pull together" in the 41 years between referendums?

No? They campaigned for leaving and another referendum for decades?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander

Sweetbabycheezits · 01/02/2020 10:04

Thank you, @MinistryforCheekyFuckery for saying what I've been feeling. I was pretty open minded when the referendum was presented, because I figured there must be tangible benefits, a plan in place, etc. There really wasn't...i could not find any concrete evidence that leaving would be beneficial to any of us. I had friends who felt strongly about leaving because they wanted the UK back the way it "used to be", and that was their entire rational.
I worry about the most vulnerable, who are already struggling. I worry about the NHS, because I've lived under USA health care. I am furious about the state of our schools...pinching every penny, unable to support our most vunerable students because they can't afford more pastoral support. If leaving the EU means that austerity is lifted and the money we're "saving" in membership goes to our health system, education, and to support people out of poverty, I will be 100% for leaving, but I have a pretty good feeling that it's not going to happen, and those already struggling will be worse off than they were before.

Livelovebehappy · 01/02/2020 10:05

Great to wake up today to what feels like a new era. It may not be plain sailing, and there may be a few bumps on the way, but I’m confident that we will have a better UK long term now we’ve claimed back the right to rule our own country on our own terms. And I’ll bet other countries will follow suit very soon and the EU will not exist after the next decade.

MaxNormal · 01/02/2020 10:06

Dear Lord.

mobile.twitter.com/Kishan_Devani/status/1223325803070611457?s=20

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 01/02/2020 10:08

Ok, then. Let's try this one more time.
Livelovebehappy please could you tell us, in clear terms and not slogans, exactly what we will be gaining as a result of leaving the EU?

I am absolutely not trying to be goady. I genuinely want to understand.

Delatron · 01/02/2020 10:12

I’d love to understand. Happy to move on if someone can explain the positives. What are you cracking the champagne open for exactly?

‘The right to rule our own country’ it’s not mediaeval times..

KidLorneRoll · 01/02/2020 10:13

We never lost the right to rule our own country.

Jesus fuck.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 01/02/2020 10:13

MaxNormal Excellent, that's cleared things up for us all then. I'm completely sold Grin

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 01/02/2020 10:25

Fucking hell. Wayne Morgan your parents must be so proud.

Cinammoncake · 01/02/2020 10:27

now we’ve claimed back the right to rule our own country on our own terms.

Doh. We already had this

And I’ll bet other countries will follow suit very soon

I bet they won't

BonnesVacances · 01/02/2020 10:30

The right to rule our own country means putting the UK's best interests first and no-one else's.

It's the same mentality as charity begins at home. People who would rather keep their money for themselves and not mind stepping over the homeless on the streets. Who don't share the view that we had a European economy and by helping up the other countries, we were creating a level playing field for all the member states to operate, which in turn benefitted the UK.

And like foreign aid. People who don't think we have a global responsibility towards developing countries and that we should only look after our own. This mentality is short-sighted but ideologically based which is why so many leavers conflate opinion with fact. It's their opinion that UK money should be spent in the UK. It's that simple for them.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 01/02/2020 10:41

*Dear Lord.

mobile.twitter.com/Kishan_Devani/status/1223325803070611457?s=20*

Bloody EU, coming over here, stealing our vocabulary.

malylis · 01/02/2020 10:52

People who say we should help our own first never help anyone, and usually blame others for the situation they are in.

Bamboo15 · 01/02/2020 11:00

@YouTheCat your exactly right. That’s what would help me to pull together, just one way that our lives will be better because we know all the ways we will be worse / are worse already.

Since the referendum we have already lost more money than it would cost to be in the EU for 45 years. That’s not a prediction or project fear that’s happened. So even if this doesn’t end the nhs as we know it (which it will) hugely reduce our manufacturing (which it will) and the list goes on, what’s the return? One good reason...? Even a perk? ......Anyone....?

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