Happy brexit day

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Thank god we are only a few hours away from being a free and independent and a global outlooking country! Happy VEU day everyone!!
Let's all join together, enjoy and celebrate our victory over antidemocracy and enjoy our new found and hard fought freedom!!

@GrolliffetheDragon Scotland but not a word of Gaelic sadly, great idea though, I could memorise some phrases.

We were never dictated to - we were the ones making policy.

Every country in the world is in a trading bloc with their closest neighbours, except for arrogant England (rest of the UK will split off shortly) because neighbourly trading blocs make economic sense.

If and when Johnson allows the Russia Report to be released (and it will be heavily redacted) we will all see how much a hostile foreign entity has been allowed to infiltrate British political life and is playing you all for fools (not me, I voted Remain). Why is our racist adulterer PM not releasing it? What has he got to hide?

Vote Leave broke the law - if the referendum had been binding rather than advisory, it would have been declared null and void. This is Not democracy.

But enjoy your celebrations because that is all you have got. Your blue passports are less powerful than the red ones with 'European Union' on them. Leave-voting farmers are now realising their voting errors and Grimsby fishermen are asking for special dispensations in any future trade deal with the EU because suddenly their fish will cost much more to the market that buys 80% of their catch - the EU. Turkeys and Christmas etc.

However, the biggest issue is not whether we are in or out of the EU, it is the bonfire of public life and rights as we know it that is now assured. Brexit is just a key to let the far right in to destroy British institutions and workers rights. Watch as the NHS is destroyed by the USA, our civil service being politicised and run by people who have no knowledge as to how things work, our courts being unable to hold dictator PMs to account (and whatever you give to a Tory govt you give to a future labour govt, so be careful what you wish for). And last, but by no means least, watch your workers' rights being stripped to bare bones. Women will suffer the most as maternity rights will be watered right down. If you voted for this clusterfuck then you voted for your daughters to have less support in motherhood than you do. Brexit itself is stupidity on an epic scale but I don't begrudge it you. What bothers me most is the , but what bothers me most is the vandalism that this much-further-right-govt-than-ever-before will quite happily authorise to make us all less protected and less important. To all those 'celebrating' please do not start threads in months to come bemoaning how your paid holiday has been cut and that you can no longer get the maternity leave you thought you were entitled to. You can thank the EU for all those rights and you can thank your Brexit vote for removing them. Have fun.

NotLangNow You're absolutely right, we haven't left yet and we still have the exit deal to negotiate, which I fear isn't going to be anything close to what we want or need because why the hell would the EU cater to our whims now? Shall we meet back here on December 30 and see if all those Leavers are still celebrating?

@peanutbutterandbanana

Thunderous applause!

I was confused about how it will impact on the NHS?

Brilliantly (if massively depressingly) written peanutbutterandbanana

Well said, peanut butter.

"I was confused about how it will impact on the NHS?"

Depends how much American cock we have to suck in order to get a deal.

@Mordred...Oh god that's quite graphic!!

What has the US got to do with it?

Any us trade deal will come with the requirement to open up the NHS and eventually a us-style system based on ability to pay rather than need.

But at least we can call milk, milk.

Oh no

Fantastic post, peanutbutterandbanana. Will all the MNetters who voted to leave be celebrating when they have to return to work six weeks after having a baby, like they do in the US?

"What has the US got to do with it?"

They want the NHS. More profits.

It won't happen immediately. It'll be done by stealth

The NHS is well-loved by the British public - so public confidence in it, and affection for it will be gradually undermined. A headline in the Express here, an expose in the Daily Mail there, a bludgeoning headline from the Sun. Watch.

@Longwhiskers14 to be fair most of us can't afford to have babies anymore anyway thanks to the Tories so shouldn't really affect too many people

Turkeys through and through.

We received more money and other benefits from the EU than we put in. Have a look on the ONS website....sorry, you've swallowed the lies, scape-goating and self-interest of Cummings, Johnson, Farage & Co instead of doing a bit of research.

Enjoy your party!

I'm still a bit puzzled that all the Leave posters just roll their eyes and say "we've already told you why we voted Brexit, not doing it again" when it's obviously so marvelous and wonderful. Surely this bears repeating ad nauseum?

I was confused about how it will impact on the NHS?

Our post brexit life will be a choice:

Do we align with the EU on trade or do with align with the US? We cannot do both as US standards are much lower than US standards. The US refuse to come up to EU standards, particularly on food regulatory standards.

We used to have a say in EU regulations but have decided to weaken ourselves and instead be told what to do by the US. That's the Brexit bottom line.

One thing the US will demand is the right to supply drugs to the NHS. So whereas now we might buy drug A from the EU at a cost of £2 we will now have to buy it from the USA at a cost of £100. Imagine the impact of all those prescriptions now costing 50 x more? The NHS will be on its knees, which is exactly what the Tories want (read about the economics of destruction - think Jacob Rees Moggs' father wrote it). Once the NHS has collapsed it can be sold off to all those American companies who have been privately funding Tory MPs as their 'advisors'. And why do you think Arron Banks of UKIP and Leave.EU (basically Farage's buddy) wants that? BECAUSE HE OWNS A MASSIVE INSURANCE COMPANY. What will we all need? EXPENSIVE HEALTH INSURANCE. Who will become very rich out of that? ARRON BANKS! Who can't afford health insurance? Vast swathes of the population!!!

There is a massive underclass in the USA who have no healthcare or dental care. Google to find out how much it costs to give birth there - about one month's salary. You can proudly tell your daughters what you have bequeathed them. We will all be looking back on our EU membership days wistfully and with regret. In a few years' time no-one will own up to voting Leave. Everyone will be remainers. Brexit is not the final destination - it is just a train ride on the way. Well done all you celebrating tonight. Well done.

To everyone celebrating tonight - Fuck you.

I'm Jewish and your stupid fucking vote has ushered in an era where racism is completely acceptable, and where I no longer feel welcome in my own country.

Yes, the antisemitism specifically has been far worse coming from Labour, but that's just part of a bigger picture, with a weaselly shit old wanker in charge of Labour who didn't even have the courage of his fucking convictions, who did all he could to back Brexit and encourage Article 50, combined with the thoroughly corrupt, disgusting, fuckwits in the Conservative party.

Fuck you all.

Turkeys through and through.

The same reason labour lost, at some point you have to apply critical thinking and realise their is a grey area, it would help if you obviously didn't just read headlines and follow twitter likes.

Totally agree OP! I think several EU countries are jealous of us.

Countries don't get jealous of eachother. That sounds like something a 3 year old would come out with.

@nicky7654

So many sad losers wanting everyone to be miserable with them

I’m not re-posting your emojis. You are a disgrace.

There is a massive underclass in the USA who have no healthcare or dental care. Google to find out how much it costs to give birth there - about one month's salary.

No doubt a lot more than that. When I lived in the US there was a huge uplift on insurance premiums to get coverage if you were planning on having a baby. And that was was with a heavily subsidised company plan.

I'm Jewish and your stupid fucking vote has ushered in an era where racism is completely acceptable, and where I no longer feel welcome in my own country.

That is more down to the hard left labour, nothing to do with brexit. The real hard left have always been anti eu, the antisemitism has always been a thing on the hard left, it isn't related to brexit, it has surfaced because of Corbyn, even though Corbyn was a lexiteer the 2 scenarios are not combined. The blame of your situation goes to momentum et al.

"I was confused about how it will impact on the NHS?"

American drug companies want to increase the price of drugs in the UK as part of the UK-US trade discussions. Extra costs to the NHS will be several billions.

A fall in the value of the Pound directly impacts on the cost to the NHS of everything imported - from sticking plasters to medicines to medical equipment = more costs.

The NHS currently has 100,000 staff vacancies. 60,000 EU citizens work in the NHS. All have transferable skills and can move anywhere they want within the EU if things get too uncomfortable in the UK. In London in particular, whole hospital departments would cease to be able to operate if just half of the EU staff returned home.

Medical equipment needs to be maintained and repaired. Much of the equipment in UK hospitals comes from the EU - if it breaks down, the current situation is for spare parts to be dispatched from a central warehouse in somewhere like Amsterdam to the UK and for a UK-based technician to repair or maintain the equipment, although often these technicians also travel around Europe. If there are customs and visa delays, the equipment cannot be used, resulting in cancelled operations and patients not receiving the care that they need.

When patients are ready to leave hospital, they are often discharged to care homes or specialist care units. UK care homes are heavily dependent on EU staff. If these staff leave, the care homes cannot take the patients and the patients cannot leave the hospitals, blocking beds for the next round of patients.

Finally, the UK healthcare market is seen as a huge cherry-tree ripe for plucking by the US health companies. They don't want to take over the whole NHS - they just want to pick off the most lucrative bits and have an interest in the NHS struggling as it encourages more people to take out private medical insurance.

Countries don't get jealous of eachother. That sounds like something a 3 year old would come out with.

I think they where implying geopolitik which you clearly do not understand, and yes other countries do want to emulate others, at a basic level you only have to see the amount of threads on mn about how we should adopt the 'good' bits of the nordic model.