Happy brexit day

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Thank god we are only a few hours away from being a free and independent and a global outlooking country! Happy VEU day everyone!!
Let's all join together, enjoy and celebrate our victory over antidemocracy and enjoy our new found and hard fought freedom!!

@SueEllenMishke I voted Remain too. My partner voted Leave. But I don't know his reasons because I don't care. It's up to him why he voted the way he did. Our political opinions are different.

But I wouldn't come on here insisting not all Leave voters are stupid or racist (he's not stupid or racist) because I can't give his reasons for voting.

I agree personal attacks are unnecessary but people feel strongly about this. It's kind of a big deal.

It’s not bullying, it’s having a discussion. You’re the only throwing out the accusations with nothing to back up.

If you didn’t want to be questioned on your dh’s motives why mention them?

So you're happy to have people you love and care about called stupid, racist and ignorant? Says more about you than me tbh.

Well why did he vote leave? We’re his reasons stupid, ignorant or racist?! That’s what people are asking. They not saying he’s an ignorant racist. Unless he is of course.

Eurgh typos.

@SueEllenMishke it's not a personal attack on my partner or yours though, is it?

Leave voters call us names all the time too. Because people get passionate about it.

It's not nice and it shouldn't happen but it does.

@GiveHerHellFromUs

@SueEllenMishke
But I wouldn't come on here insisting not all Leave voters are stupid or racist (he's not stupid or racist) because I can't give his reasons for voting.

Unless your husband IS stupid and racist, that’s kind of the point the other user was making. Is your husband stupid and racist? If not, and he did vote leave, then it kind of contradicts the point you’re trying to argue against

That ^ was to giveherhell, not sueellen

@BritneyPeedOnALadybug are you asking me? No I don't think he's stupid or racist.
I don't know his reasons for leaving but I know they wouldn't be the standard "there's too many immigrants" bollocks that we hear from Leave voters on the news.

My point is if people generalise against Leave voters I'm not going to insist it's not true without being able to defend him.
Maybe he is stupid and/or racist but I'd like to think it's not the case.

Ha - something about this thread reminds me of the film The Purge (maybe because I’ve just seen it) this is not a drill.....

But it happens in real life and it's been a source of frustration and upset for us. So when I see people claiming all leave voters are racist, stupid etc I occasionally bite....so shoot me.

A colleague of mine was publicly vilified by other colleagues for admitting she voted leave to the extent she had to get hr involved. It's all good and well to sit behind a screen spouting insults but when you've seen it have an impact on peoples personal and professional lives you become quite sensitive to it.

I’ve bookmarked this thread - I think it will be interesting to revisit every six months or so

Enjoy your party OP (although it’s slightly premature ) hope it’s not serenading a sinking ship for all our sakes

@GiveHerHellFromUs

I’m not sure I understand you. You said the other user was wrong for insisting not all leavers are stupid and racist. Your husband voted leave. You’ve said he’s not stupid and racist... proving their point that not all leavers are stupid and racist if that’s what your non-racist and not stupid husband voted for.

I don’t get what your point is?

nonsensicalmess
I live in NI - you sad, pathetic little Englanders

NI electorate in 2016: 1,260,955
440,707 voted to remain in the EU.
820,248 voted to leave or couldn't be bothered to vote.

56% of those who voted did not vote for the Conservatives.
58% of the electorate in Scotland did not vote to remain in the EU either if you want to be pedantic.

In fact, the leave voters in Scotland and NI (people who actually voted leave in the referendum) swung the vote. Remain would have won the referendum by 98,000 votes if Scotland and NI voters had not voted leave. No point blaming English voters.

56% of those who voted did not vote for the Conservatives Actually, I think that was Havanananana.

Isn't it amazing how many leavers come out with the line about being fed up giving reasons for voting brexit, and yet nobody can remember them doing that, and then they suddenly get all coy about stating those reasons again.

exactly this

@GladAllOver as opposed to the lib dems with their bullocks to Brexit shirts on a few months ago?

and yes if it does go tits up i will happily admit i was wrong. I do believe this could be the end for the EU tho with the likes of France refusing a referendum for fear of which way people will vote.

I honestly believe much like the labour party that if the leaders of the EU sorted themselves out and became much more transparent and even were elected instead of just being put there. Then there would be much more support for them!

@KidLorneRoll We can take back control of our fishing waters!

There is 1

Good reasons to leave the EU highlighted by Guy Verhofstadt on Wednesday;

"Brexit is a failure of the Union.There is a lesson to learn from it: to deeply reform the Union.To make it into a real Union, a Union without opt-in, without opt-outs, without rebates, without exceptions.Only then we can defend our interests and defend our values."

Wow it is crazy how bitter the Remainers are. The vitriol is astonishing.

The easiest way to counteract this would be for Brexiters to set out, even at a very basic level, what they expect the benefits of Brexit to be - but 11 pages in and all we have from Brexit supporters is defensiveness and more insults.

I can tell you that Brexit has removed my European rights, has resulted in my company relocating to a country in the EU (with a resultant loss of jobs and tax revenue for the UK), will make it more difficult to visit friends and family in the EU and has brought into the open a level of vitriol aimed at the independent judiciary of the UK, the people who voted to Remain and against anyone who dares to question the lies told by Johnson or the fantasies told by the Britannia Unchained political group.

As a Remain supporter I, and my friends and colleagues, have already had insults, not only from people on MN, but from holders of the highest office in the land, from May ('Citizens of nowhere', 'Queue jumpers') and Johnson ('Doomsters and gloomsters,') and the media that supports them.

I'm a Remainer but respect all views. Have to say though I think people who are having a party to celebrate are quite sad.

This. It's crass. And the 'VEU' day stuff is unbelievable - so much so that I'm wondering if it's made up - do people really think that Brexit is like defeating the Nazis? I don't see how anyone who understands what the EU actually is could possibly think that.

Wow it is crazy how bitter the Remainers are.

People who have been lied to, fucked over, and robbed by smug conmen usually are

Fish. 1) lots of fishermen sold their quotas (mainly to the Dutch I think) and 2) 80% of our fish is sold to...the EU. If we don't play ball they can/will apply tariffs.

So we won't have the control/leverage you think we will.

Apparently the fish we like to eat comes from Norway and Iceland.

Sorry that was directed to amd.