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to find it impossible to forgive Brexiters

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mrsmootoo · 29/01/2020 16:53

Can't forgive Brexiters for voting Leave. Find it impossible to move on from this. If there are any positives about leaving EU (?!) they are far outweighed by Remaining. Brexit posts on social media are so aggressive and unpleasant - you lost get over it. Really concerned about my kids' prospects, not being able to travel/work abroad as easily etc.

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theunknownknown · 30/01/2020 21:25

BoneyBackJefferson Mummy2017
I think you are both confused. I don't give a shit if you respect me or not.
Like literally no shits.

ilovesooty · 30/01/2020 21:26

As i said Thatcher believed in what she did. Yes her beliefs were abhorrent to many, me included. I don't think Johnson has any beliefs at all.
And his lying is far more blatant than any PM in my memory.

BritneyPeedOnALadybug · 30/01/2020 21:29

@ilovesooty

As i said Thatcher believed in what she did. Yes her beliefs were abhorrent to many, me included. I don't think Johnson has any beliefs at all.
And his lying is far more blatant than any PM in my memory.

And as I said, there hasn’t been many PMs in history where they haven’t acted anyway different than Boris is when it comes to personal views. I pointed out you picked the most divisive PM in UK history and certainly the most controversial.

FloraGreysteel · 30/01/2020 21:30

YANBU.

mummmy2017 · 30/01/2020 21:31

theunknownknown
Please be careful airing the views you express on MN in real life, while on this thread we all know you are expressing anger you feel over what has happened, and while we may joust against you, and disagree. I do feel if you let this out face to face with people , the lacklash could be long reaching in ways you would rather not have caused.

theunknownknown · 30/01/2020 21:31

Anxious1013
I totally agree with you. Calling for unity and for remainers to suck it up in the same breath, raising money to bong Big Ben.
The triumphalism is sickening.
Leavers have got everything they now say they wanted. With no compromise whatsoever.
The Tory party and Nigel Farage have fucked over millions of people in this country.

BoneyBackJefferson · 30/01/2020 21:32

theunknownknown

Not confused, just asking questions to a random on the internet.

theunknownknown · 30/01/2020 21:35

Mummy2017
I express exactly the same view in real life as I do on here. Why wouldn't I?

The backlash is going to come when you leavers realise you've been had.

theunknownknown · 30/01/2020 21:37

BoneyBackJefferson
Sorry, from one random to another - don't recall you asking me any questions, just telling me I'm small-minded and can't see beyond my own prejudices.
Like I actually care what another random on the internet thinks of me.

ilovesooty · 30/01/2020 21:37

I don't say anything different in real life either. Why should I?

BoneyBackJefferson · 30/01/2020 21:39

theunknownknown
Like I actually care what another random on the internet thinks of me.

Good to know that we are on the same page.

It would be the second thing that we have agreed on the thread.

mummmy2017 · 30/01/2020 21:39

Strange as you might think it, I have no wish to see people pitied against people in real life.
I think as people accept the reality, they will just have to wait and see what the future holds.

SpecLosers · 30/01/2020 21:40

May have been said before, but UK Gov has to decide by 1 July this year whether to apply for an extension to the current Transition Period or not. /So realistically there's only 5 months left, and then it's either another extension or No Deal really.

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/brexit-transition-period

"The terms of the Withdrawal Agreement allow the UK–EU Joint Committee to extend the transition period by up to two years, but it must sign off on the length of any extension before 1 July 2020. EU lawyers say that once that window is missed, EU law makes it very difficult to agree to any extension."

So either another Extension beckons which Johnson says is not on the cards, or we go WTO.

Well that's my reading of it anyway.

ilovesooty · 30/01/2020 21:46

I assume mummmy means pitted.

I'm not pitted against anyone in real life, thank you. It wouldn't be appropriate to talk about my views on Brexit in my current work. My former workmates were just about all remain voters. I have some friends who aren't very interested in politics. Those who are interested are remain voters too - passionately so. I don't associate with vocal leavers.

skipalongnow · 30/01/2020 21:49

@NoMorePoliticsPlease - please explain your sweeping statement of Remainers being 'pretty clueless'.

derxa · 30/01/2020 21:49

I suggest a lot of you watch Ed Balls programme 'Travels in Euroland' to understand what's going on.

hamstersarse · 30/01/2020 21:51

I don't associate with vocal leavers.

Is there any part of you that clocks the hypocrisy of this?

BoneyBackJefferson · 30/01/2020 21:54

ilovesooty

IMO, that is part of the problem with Brexit in that many remainers and leavers live in their own pro-remain/leave bubble and those that have any other opinion are too worried about the response to say anything.

Justanotherlurker · 30/01/2020 22:00

please explain your sweeping statement of Remainers being 'pretty clueless'.

Not op, but the past 3 years have been spent saying anyone who voted leave, and more recently tory as 'clueless' and thick, the same applies when you when you get adult enough to understand the difference of opinion.

I will add that a lot of Remainer talk on MN has been about anti-austerity and it just boils down to team sports political debate.

You have many threads of people citing Indepent articles as fact, you have many anti neolib posters citing goldman sachs, this narrative of being a remainer as being more educated has become a meme, there is a lot of uneducated on both sides of the argument, if we where to believe MN we should already be in recession and suffered sever job losses just from the fact we voted leave.

ilovesooty · 30/01/2020 22:02

I don't know any vocal leavers. None in my social circles anyway. I'm quite glad about it.

I do know one or two people who voted leave but it isn't discussed.

BritneyPeedOnALadybug · 30/01/2020 22:03

@ilovesooty
I don't know any vocal leavers. None in my social circles anyway. I'm quite glad about it.

I can imagine the result of the vote (both of them) came as a shock to you then.

LaurieMarlow · 30/01/2020 22:04

this narrative of being a remainer as being more educated has become a meme

That ‘narrative’ is data based.

ilovesooty · 30/01/2020 22:08

The latest election result wasn't a shock at all. It was clear to me what the electorate was prepared to vote for.

The referendum was always going to be close. My social circle might not include vocal leavers but I was perfectly aware that they exist.

derxa · 30/01/2020 22:10

I don't associate with vocal leavers. This is the problem. My shepherdess is a Leaver. Do I tell her to fuck off? She has a heart of gold.

Fivetillmidnight · 30/01/2020 22:12

I am a fervent anti brexiteer .. the only way through it is to sit back and say... I told you so... and desperately hope our smart kids change the world

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