to find it impossible to forgive Brexiters

[mrsmootoo]

Can't forgive Brexiters for voting Leave. Find it impossible to move on from this. If there are any positives about leaving EU (?!) they are far outweighed by Remaining. Brexit posts on social media are so aggressive and unpleasant - you lost get over it. Really concerned about my kids' prospects, not being able to travel/work abroad as easily etc.

It does mean that effectively some people whose rights to have FOM and every other EU benefit would never be affected by the referendum result, could (and did) vote for the removal of those same rights from others. Rights they'd never themselves lose.

That seems wrong to me. Yet we're supposed to all 'get behind brexit' equally.

We're not equal anymore though.

I had to capture this

And yes, I am considering leaving.

How will the nation cope without you?

Glorious maybe we can export the endless amounts of salt from the likes of the OP.

Oh you are a hoot Dongdingdong.
Such wit.

Unfortunately Brexit is happening, whether we like it or not. Even though it's not what I voted for or what I wanted, personally I've decided as much as possible to not become too disaffected by this inevitability. I don't really hold much faith in the process as it continues but I have to get on with life and not get eaten up by negativety or bitterness. That's just my own personal way of dealing with it. No one knows what's going to happen or how it will turn out, or how things will unfold in the coming months so...what to do except wait and see. When there is a clearer picture then that is the best place to act from.

I do have to laugh at a poster on the first page saying (I paraphrase), it's not a big deal, it's not the holocaust, get over it sort of thing...that's not what leavers were saying about leaving! Apparently leaving the EU is a VERY BIG deal and lots of problems will be fixed by leaving. So it can't be both things at once, a very big deal and not a big deal at all.

OP. Who do you think you are hurting by not forgiving? Who is that affecting other than you?

Others - the aggressive you lost get over it types? No, I hope their jobs are the first to go and that remainers go in front of them for healthcare.

😂 oh the irony.

Well if labour didn’t open the borders up to hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of people I don’t think the vote would have gone that way.

Folk were sick of it and with the housing crisis, nhs on its knees, can’t get a descent school place or a nhs dentist, struggle to get a doctors appointment but keep the free movement.... open Britain up to the whole world and let’s cram even more people in this over populated island.

An Australian style points system is what this county needs and I’ll be glad to see it happen soon!

Btw I tend to seldom comment on threads like this but I couldn’t help it. My last post is the main reason most people voted to leave. And they were also sick of being governed by the EU on things like human rights etc

But under new trade agreements we may be agreeing to many workers coming from other countries, so the overstretched NHS, housing crisis etc aren’t going to be solved by Brexit.

Come up North, bask in the glory that was life under the EU. That's why people voted leave.

Labour?! The Tories have had ten fucking years to so something about that, why didnt they?
They could have given all new arrivals three months to find work or boot them out, and insist that they had private health coverage. You know, like most EU countries do?

You won't be getting an Australian points style system any time soon. Lol. Imagine believing anything Johnson says.

No, I won't forgive any of them. Not sure I'll ever stop being furious with them. I am seething.

Tough shit.

I find it impossible to forgive the incessant whining of remainers.

@chocowoka
When you say that immigration was the reason people voted to leave, are the thinking of a particular immigrant population? As in, which nationality is it that is causing the problems of which you speak; housing crisis, NHS bed shortages, difficulty getting school places etc.

I notice you say, 'open Britain up to the whole world....' but also noting EU member states are not the 'whole world'.

I am not British and therefore (thankfully!) not affected by Brexit but as someone who lives outside of her home country, I would struggle to forgive my fellow birth citizens if they voted for my home country to leave Europe making me lose the ability to remain where I am and probably making my passport unavoidably way less powerful. (Without even going into how it would make my home country poorer and would be an horrendous thing to do in all possible aspects as well as a technical nightmare...)

I am sorry for people who are forced into a situation they don't want to be in and will lose way more than they will ever gain back (there is nothing I could ever gain from my country leaving Europe that would outset the benefits I have from staying personally).

Though I will admit that a tiny part of me is interested to see how it unfolds and I am quite looking forward to what AIBU will look like in a year's time as I expect plenty of AIBU to be about the downfall of Brexit and likely Brexiters feeling duped and angry at the outcome that they will likely pretend they didn't realize would unfold and: '' Are they unreasonable for being furious at not having received what the government promised and to think a vote shouldn't have occurred if those things couldn't be guaranteed?'' .

The selfish part of me hopes that it will provide enough good reasons for my country never to consider leaving Europe (in my lifetime) though of course I wish there was a way were the only people affected/benefiting (if benefits there is) could go be Brexiters.

Anyhow YANBU OP, I would feel the same way.

People who say YABU for being angry at people exercising their rights to vote are silly, Hitler legally became chancellor, nobody would blame the Jews from that era for not being thrilled about it and being resentful that people they thought were friends and family could vote for someone that would change/affect their life so drastically.

Brexit is a similar thing to me, it has the potential of impacting people's life so much (already is) that being resentful is not surprising when you get the short straw.

Come up North, bask in the glory that was life under the EU

So nothing to do with domestic policies then? I'm fascinated to hear how it's the EUs fault?

What it boils down to is that the leave campaign was better funded
@nobodyimportant I'm afraid that is categorically untrue, you couldn't be more wrong. According to the electoral commission, the Leave campaigns spent £13.3m, while the Remain campaigns spent £19.3m. That doesn't count the approx £9m spent by the government on that leaflet. All in, the Remain campaigns effectively spent double what the Leave Campaigns did. And still lost.

They also didn't care about things like honesty or following spending rules
Because the Remain campaigns were so honestly run and never broke spending limits that would be why two of their front campaigns were fined last year. The Lib Dems and Britain Stonger in Europe among others have received fines. They are also under investigation by the ICO.

Still, why let facts get in the way of a "we woz robbed" rant?

And at the end of the day, what difference would it make? If the £350m figure on that bus was instead the £250m net figure, would anyone have changed their vote?

There’ll be plenty of workers coming here in the future but ones with skills that we need. Ones that pay higher taxes and contribute in a way that will be economically advantageous to the UK. These are the calibre of candidates they will allow in and from all over the world.

Does it occur to you Chocowoka that you might be even less likely to get a Drs appointment or NHS dentist when the EU citizens up and leave? You would struggle at both my Drs and Dentist if you relied on non-EU staff.

If you are thinking of the ECHR comes from the Council of Europe, which the UK was instrumental in setting up after the War, for reasons which ought to be obvious.

And BTW the Government only yesterday, I believe or the day before ruled out an Australian points style system.

Do you recall that we have not had a Labour Government for 10 years, so if you wanted to see immigration cut down, you need to ask why the Tories haven't been able to control it?

@Marriedtoapenguin
What change do you think will make the most difference to 'the North' when we leave the EU?
Your comment implies that being under EU law is responsible for the hardships faced by many, so what do you think will get better once are no longer a member state?

Chocowoka lol. They'll be bringing them in to pick potatoes and wipe areas.

*arses. Prude phone.

Well he fit votes in and won by a landslide so I think what he says holds some clout.... I recon the Australian points system is being finalised as we speak