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Re. my holiday allowance?

180 replies

SpunBodgeSquarepants · 26/01/2020 17:03

I started a new job last June - holiday year runs 1st January to 3st December. I work 3 days a week - 5 hours a day, totalling 15 hours a week.
My colleague works 42.5 hours a week and receives 20 days holiday. I get 7. This means I can only take 2 full weeks off per year, which is really not great for me, being a single parent. It's really difficult to find childcare during the school holidays! Am I right in thinking that this has been worked out wrong? I see where they've got this figure from - I work roughly a third of the hours my colleague does, therefore. I get a third of the holiday days too. But this would be based on full, 8.5 hour days wouldn't it?
Help!!

OP posts:
AnneTwacky · 26/01/2020 19:11

I'm also part time and have been through this.

I'm assuming that your colleague is paid for any bank holidays to give them the 28 day minimum paid annual leave as required by law.

This would have to be prorata for you which works out at something like 16.8, which should be rounded up to 17.

It would be fair though, for your employer to make you use a day of this annual leave for any bank holiday that fell on your normal working days.

I would get advice from your union or Acas.

blackistheneworange · 26/01/2020 19:12

www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement/y

BumbleBeee69 · 26/01/2020 19:14

my head hurt reading all that.. good luck OP.. Grin

SpunBodgeSquarepants · 26/01/2020 19:27

@theromanempire I work Mon-Weds

OP posts:
Sassifrass · 26/01/2020 19:27

Yes - as explained clearly above by Puppy Monkey - you get the same number of weeks as a full timer. It’s just that for you a week is only 3 days or 15 hours. Your first year’s leave is less as you started partway through the year. Calculation sounds right to me btw.

Jaxhog · 26/01/2020 19:27

Yep, according to the Gov.uk website, the statuary minimum for you is 16.8 days. It's based on the number of days you work, not the hours per day. Not sure how to account for BHs though. I guess it depends on whether you work fixed days, and whether or not they include Mondays and/or Fridays.

Tell your boss to check the government website or helpline.

BTW, you should have an employment contract by law. This should specify the number of holidays and the basis on which they are calculated.

bellabasset · 26/01/2020 19:27

You work 15 hours a week and are entitled to.5.6 weeks at 15 hours which is as others have said = 16.8 days of 5hrs or 84 hours annually. This entitlement may be inclusive of bank holidays unless your contract specifies otherwise.

Jaxhog · 26/01/2020 19:29

Also, they can't round the days down, only up.

Stuffofawesome · 26/01/2020 19:30

www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 19:31

It's not right if it doesnt account for bank holidays. Its also a complicated way to work it out. As you work Mondays some of your holiday entitlement will be taken up by bank holidays leaving less choice as to when to take your other days.

The 16.8 days/84 hours is inclusive of pro rata bank holidays if the full time staff get 28 days in total

YappityYapYap · 26/01/2020 19:31

20 days holidays a year is illegal. The minimum is 5.6 weeks a year which would be 28 days a year for a full time employee. You should also be getting 5.6 weeks off a year so the amount of days would be 16.8 days

NoMilk · 26/01/2020 19:33

SpunBodgeSquarepants Sorry I have only read the 1st page,

I just wanted to say I use a local nursery for childcare, they are open 51 weeks a year and take children from age 5 -11 years for holiday club.

Its £25 a for a 08.00-18.00 day, it might be worth asking if you have any local nurseries.

I dont have any help with DD so she has to go to the nursery every holiday which is a pain.

Sassifrass · 26/01/2020 19:36

The minimum statutory holiday can include bank holidays. As the op works Mon-We’d, she will get these in addition to her holiday entitlement.

YappityYapYap · 26/01/2020 19:41

I work 25 hours a week, Mon-Fri 5 hours per day. As I don't work the full days, I accrue holidays hourly. So for every hour I work, I earn 0.12 hours holiday.

So over a year, 25 x 52 ÷ 0.12 = 156 so that equates to 31.2 days off which is 6 weeks and 1 day. However, I don't earn holidays while I'm on holiday so it actually works out at 28 days which is 5 weeks and 3 days off

woodchuck99 · 26/01/2020 19:41

As the op works Mon-We’d, she will get these in addition to her holiday entitlement.

That's right. If she works on Mondays she will not be entitled to any more annual leave then they have given her assuming that by seven days they mean 7 x 8.5 hours.

Meggie2008 · 26/01/2020 19:50

When I worked in a supermarket, I did 16 hours a week over 4 days, and I got 18 days holiday a year.

Meggie2008 · 26/01/2020 19:51

Pressed post too early!
As others said, definitely sounds like a mistake, have a wee word in the morning :)

PuppyMonkey · 26/01/2020 19:56

I work 25 hours a week, Mon-Fri 5 hours per day. As I don't work the full days, I accrue holidays hourly.

But, but, if you have a day off you’re just having a day off same as anyone else, and your “day” is five hours. Confused

Why are you all posting complicated formula about hours? Grin

Inforthelonghaul · 26/01/2020 20:00

I just did a quick calculation on the government’s website and it says that 15 hrs a week over 3 days is entitled to 84 hrs a year holiday which divided by 15 is 5.6 weeks.

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 20:01

As 5 bank holidays will fall on your M-W working days this year you would take them out of your entitlement so 16.8 - 5 = 11.8 days for you to choose or 84 hours - 25 hours leaving 59 hours of your choice

Purpleartichoke · 26/01/2020 20:04

I’m part time. It’s all based on hours, not days. That way to take a full week off, I need to use holiday for the same number of hours I work in a week. I work 20 hours a week and regular employees work 40. For every hour a regular employee accrues, I earn 1/2 an hour.

Theromanempire · 26/01/2020 20:06

So you work Mon-Wed, you are entitled to 84 hours inclusive of bank hols. There are 4 bank hols on your working days this year so you would need to deduct 20 hours to cover this leaving 64 hours. This equates to 13 days left for you to take when you want so effectively 4 weeks plus 1 day.

I am 100% sure of this as I calculate holiday entitlement for part-timers a lot!!

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 20:20

Theres 5 bank holidays as 1st january was a wednesday

Pleasedontdrawonyoursister · 26/01/2020 20:39

I work similar hours to you OP, the company agreed to work out my annual leave in hours rather than days as it’s less complicated, might be worth asking for this.

christmasathome · 26/01/2020 20:39

I think you are entitled to about 16 days.

42.5/5x20 = 170 hours being full time annual leave entitlement

170/42.5x15= 80 hours per year or 16 days - you need to pro rata that for your first year so maybe the entitlement you have been given is just until the new year starts then you get your holidays?

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