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Re. my holiday allowance?

180 replies

SpunBodgeSquarepants · 26/01/2020 17:03

I started a new job last June - holiday year runs 1st January to 3st December. I work 3 days a week - 5 hours a day, totalling 15 hours a week.
My colleague works 42.5 hours a week and receives 20 days holiday. I get 7. This means I can only take 2 full weeks off per year, which is really not great for me, being a single parent. It's really difficult to find childcare during the school holidays! Am I right in thinking that this has been worked out wrong? I see where they've got this figure from - I work roughly a third of the hours my colleague does, therefore. I get a third of the holiday days too. But this would be based on full, 8.5 hour days wouldn't it?
Help!!

OP posts:
Changeofname79 · 26/01/2020 17:36

www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement here is the governement calculator. I've double checked and its definitely 84 hours per year (incl any bank hols)

SpunBodgeSquarepants · 26/01/2020 17:41

16.8 days sounds like too many! I'll gladly take it though!!

OP posts:
PuppyMonkey · 26/01/2020 17:42

I think it’s really confusing when everyone goes on about hours.

In my mind, it’s simple:

Colleague works five days.
OP works three days.

Colleague gets four weeks holiday (so will receive the usual pay for five days for each week off).

OP gets four weeks too (receiving her usual pay for three days for each week off).

Confused
Theromanempire · 26/01/2020 17:42

OP, that 16.8 days included bank holidays so it really isn't that many when you deduct any bank holidays off that would be on your working days.

LonginesPrime · 26/01/2020 17:42

I work roughly a third of the hours my colleague does, therefore. I get a third of the holiday days too

Disregarding the pro-rating for a moment, do you know that your colleague definitely has the same holiday allowance as you (i.e. the same number of days per year) in their contract?

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 17:43

It's not too many, it's your legal minimum amount. Hope you get it sorted

Ffsnosexallowed · 26/01/2020 17:44

Easier to work it out in hours rather than days.

woodchuck99 · 26/01/2020 17:46

I think they have given you seven full days off which will be 10.5 of your days. That sounds right to me.

Where I work for part-time people they give us annual leave in hours and add-on the bank holiday hours too. Then if we take annual leave or a bank holiday is on a working day they deduct hours.. Much simpler if your day is less than a full day.

mcmooberry · 26/01/2020 17:47

Doesn't sound right to me at all. I work 2 full days a week, 11 hours each day and get 12 days holiday so 6 weeks holiday.

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 17:49

Or they could just give her 17 of her 5hr days (16.8 rounded up) or 84 hours

Oblomov20 · 26/01/2020 17:51

This can't be right.
7 days? That's only 2 weeks. This isn't right.

On a very basic calculation, 20 days x 3/5 = 12. As you work 3 days that would be 4 weeks.

I can't believe your 7 days has been calculated correctly.

woodchuck99 · 26/01/2020 17:54

As you work 3 days that would be 4 weeks.

She doesn't work three days though because she only works 15 hours which is less than two days work.

woodchuck99 · 26/01/2020 17:56

It's seven full days all 10.5 of your part-time days. It's correct

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 17:57

She works 3 of her own days. Doesnt matter how long they are. She's still entitled to 5.6 weeks of holiday = 16.8 days

SquigglePigs · 26/01/2020 17:57

Given that you don't work full days it would make more sense to work out annual leave in terms of hours.

Your colleagues 20 days holiday a year is 170 hours of leave.

Roughly a third of that would be 50-55 or so hours.

The company can then say it's a rule you can only take whole days (my company it's whole days or half days but that's not very easy on a 5 hour day!). This would then be about 10 days leave.

That seems a much fairer way of working it out.

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 17:59

No it's not. Why would you work it like that anyway? It makes it harder to calculate how many days to take off if she has a holiday.

Aridane · 26/01/2020 17:59

Calculation sounds right to me

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 18:03

20 days doesn't take into account bank holidays and op will be entitled to a pro rata amount of them too.

Full time entitlement is probably 28 days which is 5.6 weeks x 5 days. OP is entitled to 5.6 weeks x 3 days = 16.8 days. It doesn't matter how many hours she does, her 'day' is just shorter than a full time day

Ouchaheadinmybehind · 26/01/2020 18:07

Does your colleague get extra days for length of service? I know at my place there is an extra Day entitlement added per 10 years of service. Place I worked previously added an extra day for every 5 years of service.

www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement

dementedpixie · 26/01/2020 18:09

It really doesn't matter much what others get as legally she is entitled to the minimum of 5.6 weeks which can be inclusive of bank holidays.

Orangecake123 · 26/01/2020 18:12

I hope this helps back up what the others have said:

www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights

followingonfromthat · 26/01/2020 18:13

I work 5 mornings a week, and do exactly half the number of hours that the full-timers do.

However, I still get 20 days, but it means 20 mornings, not full days.

Your company is being rather mean. As you work 3 out of 5 days, I think you should get 3/5 holiday entitlement as well, but being paid for the hours you do, obviously.

Oblomov20 · 26/01/2020 18:15

Woodchuck, that's not the way it's calculated.

She is entitled to the statutory minimum.

My example, was just an example, of say 20 days. Minimum.
She is entitled to minimum plus bank holidays pro rata'd.

woodchuck99 · 26/01/2020 18:19

Are they taking bank holidays into account as they should do. Your colleague who gets four weeks annual leave presumably gets bank holidays too. If your normal day is on a Monday you will end up with slightly less annual leave that you can choose to take off. None of my days are on a bank holiday so I get the hours (pro rata) added onto my entitlement.

Cora1942 · 26/01/2020 18:22

Just send your boss the link to the government calculator.
You are entitled to 17 days holiday which includes any Bank holidays that fall on your working day.
No need to work it out in hours unless you work different hours each day.
It's the law so just be assertive and take what you are due.