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To think everyine has forgotten about next Frìday?

515 replies

malificent7 · 26/01/2020 08:55

Brexit isn't it? Im a remainer and i feel ok about it...at least my hysteria has died down. What about the rest of you?

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WrongKindOfFace · 26/01/2020 11:41

But what do our MEPs actually do? And what sort of problem or concern would any average UK resident have about which they would write to their MEP?

If only there was a way to find out this sort of information. Like say a building full of books you could borrow for free. Or a magic thing inside a computer where you could type your questions. Or a way to contact your local MEP to ask them what they do all day?

oblada · 26/01/2020 11:41

Oh and for the 'democratic vote' - EU residents settled in the UK no matter how long for were not allowed to vote for the referendum (we vote for everything else though).
However some UK nationals settled abroad were allowed to vote.
And Commonwealth citizens residing here (no matter the status) were allowed to vote.
Makes sense...
My husband voted (Indian national). I couldn't (EU).
My husband's uncle and aunt (Indian nationals) voted to leave. They don't actually like it here and never truly integrated and plan to run to the US as soon as possible. Go figure..

oblada · 26/01/2020 11:43

"You don’t fucking vote to have them though!"

Haha - well said!!

everythingisginandroses · 26/01/2020 11:44

It's bollocks and the people who voted for it are daft sods. End.

WrongKindOfFace · 26/01/2020 11:49

However some UK nationals settled abroad were allowed to vote.

And bizarrely quite a few of them settled in EU countries voted to leave. The mind boggles at their thought process. I suspect reality will hit for some when the pension increases stop coming.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 26/01/2020 11:50

Paintingtheroseswhite, I can't believe you're serious but if you were in my circle (as a fellow remainer), I'd be distancing myself from you. The attitude of holding people accountable for their voting decision is ridiculous. Hold the politicians accountable by all means but, you won't, will you, you'll just posture on a chatboard.

You don't even have the courage of your own stipulations... you'll keep up with those who voted to leave it it benefits you in some way. Urgh.

I will be avoiding anybody who sneers because that's nothing to do with the voting debacle and something intrinsically wrong with them.

oblada · 26/01/2020 11:56

WrongkindofFace - I know, it is bonkers.

It really shows that some questions should just not be put to the People's vote...
A lot of very good decisions were made pretty much against the general will of the people.

BoneyBackJefferson · 26/01/2020 11:56

Blibbyblobby
Sure, when these shit occupancies happen, you deal with them. You don’t fucking vote to have them though!

People voted for austerity, do you hold them in the same contempt?

magnoliastellata · 26/01/2020 11:57

Remainer here. We'll be holding a party with all the other amazing people we've met while protesting against Brexit. We'll also be raising the EU flag and flying it in our garden. We now have our Irish passports and we'll almost certainly retire to Ireland or another EU country.

The only thing I'm looking forward to when the shit really hits the fan is being able to say 'You voted for this so shut up.' When the NHS crumbles for lack of nurses etc I want the Brexiteers to do the right thing and go to the back of the queue.

Danetobe · 26/01/2020 12:01

Friday will be a bit of an anti climax i imagine but a have a ginormous bag of popcorn ready for the next decade. After which time the tories will be loudly claiming that the EU is the biggest and richest single market in the world and we need full access and full influence. 'Rejoin! Rejoice! Regain!' they will say. 'We delivered on the wish of the people, now lets deliver for business!' what a fucking waste of time this farce is - much like austerity for that matter.

Snowy111 · 26/01/2020 12:02

Feeling depressed about Friday but more depressed at the vile human being that the UK voted for to be PM and seem to worship at the moment. Depressing that there was nothing better on offer. But the hero-worship and blinkered belief of him and his three word slogans I find mind boggling. As if him and his ilk have nothing to do with any of the problems in the NHS, schools, prison service, rise in knife crime, shabby treatment of our elderly in care homes.

The worshippers will continue to believe he is making it a success whatever happens.

bakedbeanzontoast · 26/01/2020 12:03

@TroysMammy me too. I'll be hanging the flags out, been a long month

lljkk · 26/01/2020 12:05

It's Brexit In Name Only, isn't it, on 31st.
Still take all EU rules.
No MEPs (no say in rule changes)
Can start negotiating trade deals, can even sign them, but can't have new trade deals take affect until after Transition ends.
It will be interesting to see how many of the 'agreements in principle' that Liam Fox says he got, will actually get signed in 2020.

Something simple like mutual recognition of lorry driving licenses: EU will want many assurances that the UK drivers are following EU rules & there is level playing field for companies that want to operate both sides of UK-EU border. This alone sounds like something that could take 2 yrs to sort out.

Panicmode1 · 26/01/2020 12:10

I haven't forgotten. We went to France for lunch last Sunday to mark our last trip as EU citizens. Will be v sad on Friday.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 26/01/2020 12:14

Mutual recognition of driving licences is heller complicated when you compare it to certification of wood pallets:
www.gov.uk/wood-packaging-import-export
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/26/uk-pallet-crisis-no-deal-brexit
The amount of negotiation and deals that face us over the next year or so is absolutely mind-boggling.
I'm fully expecting a no deal at the end of this year's transition, which will drop most of our farming & fishing sector in the shit.
Next Friday is nothing but an administrative milestone - the real hard work is yet to come, and so so many opportunities for our government to fuck up.
Just look at the debate over tax on US tech giants vs UK car makers - this thing will run and run and we are going to get shafted.

justgivemewine · 26/01/2020 12:16

“You can tell that remainers are praying for it to fail so they can say ‘I told you so’ it’s utterly pathetic and says a lot about them

I’m sure some of them will spend the rest of their lives monitoring the effects of brexit, literally praying for disaster.
It’s sad really. their lives must be very lonely and empty”

The only pathetic thing here is the above comments 🙄 which says a lot about the mentality of many brexitiers.

yeah right, we want our life to be bad under brexit just so we can say I told you so?. Don’t be so ridiculous, just because we think it will/might fail, doesn’t mean we want it to, because if it does we are all in the shit including brexitiers and I’m pretty sure no one wants that.

Gwilt160981 · 26/01/2020 12:16

It's been dragged out that far now think people are passed caring.

Blibbyblobby · 26/01/2020 12:19

People voted for austerity, do you hold them in the same contempt?

Yes, very much so. Because I understand that a national economy within a global economy is not a household budget, and simplistic solutions with three word slogans are never going to do what the people voting for them believe.

And I absolutely hold in contempt people who get what they voted for then whinge about the results and exhort everyone who told them it was a bad idea to pull together to deal with their bad decision. Hell yes!

Wejustdontknow · 26/01/2020 12:23

It’s my birthday next Friday 🙂

PleaseNoFortnite · 26/01/2020 12:31

Very much a Remainer too but we tried everything and there's nothing more we can do about it. Our family's not on the breadline though.

I'm devastated for people who are, as prices will go up, and for all the young people who now won't have the chances that I had growing up .

Also angry with a Labour party that were so disastrous that they let the Tories in again, and will be expecting clear messages and a far stronger opposition from the next leader or my vote will be going elsewhere.

I don't (entirely) blame Jeremy Corbyn. As a union member I didn't vote for him as a leader, and assumed everyone saw he was never going to be a good one, but obviously not. The people around him propped him up and let unelected officials and Momentum take over because a lack of leadership creates a power vacuum. They pushed Tom Watson out, and he was a decent politician.

We do need to look forward at what can be done in the future though, not dwell on the past, and that includes holding the government to account for what they're doing.

BoneyBackJefferson · 26/01/2020 12:32

@Blibbyblobby

So as long as they don't whine about it, and don't exhort remainers responsible. It all good by you?

Are they allowed to make factual references about the politicians from both sides that have fucked this up?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/01/2020 12:32

Happy birthday for Friday, @Wejustdontknow!

I don't hold those who voted for austerity in contempt. I'm just baffled by it all. Turkeys voting for Christmas is how it seems to me, but maybe I'm missing something. (I'm thinking back several years when Labour was led by Ed Miliband.)

Aliceinwanderland · 26/01/2020 12:32

It's depressing and trying to ignore it. The real impact won't be properly seen until next January.

PleaseNoFortnite · 26/01/2020 12:35

@Blibbyblobby - yes, also agree that anyone with an ounce of economic literacy wouldn't get microeconomics mixed up with macroeconomics. But how can we expect them to know if the politicians don't seem to?

Wejustdontknow · 26/01/2020 12:37

Thank you very much @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g