To think everyine has forgotten about next Frìday?

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Brexit isn't it? Im a remainer and i feel ok about it...at least my hysteria has died down. What about the rest of you?

Also, I'm not an unkind person, so I genuinely hope this gets sorted out without anyone coming to harm, but I do wonder what's going to become of all the UK pensioners living in Spain and other hot EU countries. Many of them seem to have been keen to stop 'foreigners' coming to live and work in the UK while also having no plan to stop living abroad themselves. What are they going to do for healthcare and social care once we're outside the EU and all the transition arrangements come to an end? Are they all going to troop back here to use the NHS? I hope the careful checks the government wants our overstretched NHS staff to make on all users to identify non-taxpaying non-residents of the UK who should pay will be made to these expats too.

Flicking through this I've seen 1 comment about how undemocratic the EU is - coming from the UK that is an extraordinary comment really! And then 1 comment about corruption which clearly doesn't stand up to scrutiny... it's worrying to see what voters base their votes on...

Anyway - I'm ok about it. Let's see.
I'm from the EU. I will stay here as long as my family and I are all happy here. But if we need to move then we'll move. All my kids have got EU passports as well as UK so their opportunities are not going to be restricted by the madness here.

Not forgotten, mainly pissed off because it's a fairly crappy birthday present. Especially as I didn't ask for it.

You can tell that remainers are praying for it to fail so they can say ‘I told you so’ it’s utterly pathetic and says a lot about them

Do you seriously believe that we are hoping that Brexit brings the disaster we fear, just so we can say “I told you so?”

I think that says a great deal about (some) Brexiters.

Gaspode Pensioners living in Spain will be in a very difficult position. How will they afford to move back? Plenty of people went there for the cheaper housing and house prices here haven't exactly become more affordable. I wonder if they'll have to stump up for citizenship and stay and pay for healthcare.

Seeing as Brexiteers seem to think us Remainers are rooting for failure strongly suggests we'll all get blamed for not believing hard enough when it all goes tits up.

We don't want this bollocks to fail. It's going to fail because it's bollocks. Who the hell would want hardship for themselves and their communities? It's a batshit idea that we want it to fail and says a hell of a about the mindset of leavers.

*hell of a lot

I try not to think about it. I feel that the time for campaigning on this is over.
I feel detached from the reality of it all now. I am comfortable and although there is an outside chance that my company will be affected by an economic downturn I don't think I'll be out of a job.

In detailed conversations with brexit supporters the only reason people have given is to do with immigration. They aren't worried about risks to jobs/economy/public spending.
It will be interesting to see in say 5 years what the reality is. I hope that by the time my children are old enough to experience life outside the country on their own (>10yrs) there are the opportunities to do so as I did.

I haven't forgotten about it; I'm just trying not to think about it. I think it's a terrible mistake; I feel that doors will close in terms of employment opportunities. Leaving the EU will impact negatively on my job. So many other reasons. Like a pp, I've avoided the news since the election.

Not sure what I'll do that evening. Probably our usual fish and chips in our local with friends - trying to keep things as normal as possible.

for the depressing end of an era.

I'm an outie so after 3 years of hassle its finally happening. Let's just crack on...

You can tell that remainers are praying for it to fail so they can say ‘I told you so’ it’s utterly pathetic and says a lot about them

That's right, I'm looking forward to eating chlorinated chicken, to seeing my new mum friends be forced back to work within six weeks when we tear up our maternity laws, to watching the price of gas and electricity rise to the extent the poorest people in society will be forced to go without both, to watch drug supplies dwindle to extent people might die, or be forced to pay through the nose for medicine, and for food prices to rise so you're paying a fiver for a lump of cheese.

No doubt I'll be accused of scaremongering and for the sake of transparency these are worst case scenarios. But to say Remainers want even one of those things to happen just so we can say 'told you so' is beyond ridiculous.

I really hope it will pass quietly, tbh. The whole process has been so divisive and bitter for the country; it's not really a time for celebration if people genuinely want healing and reconciliation to begin.

Personally, I'll be very sad. Luckily, DH is from an EU country that allows dual nationality, so my children aren't being stripped of their benefits, but it's still a wrench - still - that it's really come to this.

Still fucking sad, angry and worried.

I think it will prove to be a huge mistake and really diminish our position and influence in the world, which I believe up till recently is on the whole positive, and put us in the pockets of the US.

I don't see how we can help tackle global crises like climate change and migration and terror etc when we isolate ourselves and are run by increasingly incompetent governments.

I'm just trying not to think about it. Sometimes it's better just to accept the inevitable, even when it's a huge fuck-up.

Many of those who will suffer have brought it on themselves and a little bit of me hopes that this could bring about the end of people believing what they're told by the billionaires who own the news media. However, even when the damage becomes apparent, leavers will find other things to blame it on and refuse to believe it was a bad move.

Britain is heading for some pretty unpleasant times so I'm just going to concentrate on encouraging my DC to consider opportunities to study and live abroad.

It’s a fucking disaster but my focus is now on making sure I am ok and doing as little as I can to solve the self-inflicted problems of others. As far as I am concerned, the Brexit voters told me they don’t value what I contribute to the UK so I no longer consider it my country and feel no moral obligation to it. And I am native British for generations.

Longwhiskers Stop being so bloody dramatic, you silly sod.

I'm looking forward to the 31-Jan-2020 because, I understand, that is the day when the UK's 73MEPs and their support staffs will officially lose their jobs.

I wish them all well personally; and wish them luck in finding work elsewhere.

But, I am delighted by the fact that the size of our government will have decreased; and that a whole tier will have been removed.

We all have a pretty good idea what our Westminster MPs do.
We all have a pretty good idea what our local Councillors do.

But what do our MEPs actually do? And what sort of problem or concern would any average UK resident have about which they would write to their MEP?

Do you seriously believe that we are hoping that Brexit brings the disaster we fear, just so we can say “I told you so?”

I think that says a great deal about (some) Brexiters.

100% this. They are basically telling you “if I were in that situation this is what I would be thinking”

Brexit, Trump, Johnson's landslide victory all seem to me to stem from a large segment of the electorate feeling ignored and patronised, and I get that. Gordon Brown's dismissal of that elderly lady's concerns about immigration was typical. I don't want to fall into the trap of being arrogant and patronising about Leavers. All the research indicates that the people who voted for the above have less formal education than the other side. That doesn't make them stupid, especially the older ones, who didn't have the same access to education that younger generations have had. Many younger people appear to have picked up very little in the way of critical thinking skills from their degree-level education.

But some of the stuff that Leavers say is worrying. The failure to grasp that freedom of movement goes two ways. We lose our freedom to live and work in the EU with no visa. Students may lose out on the Erasmus scheme. The complete lack of understanding of what a disaster this is for the UK higher education sector and the NHS. Meanwhile, UK businesses that rely on migrant labour from the EU also lose out as the UK population shows no sign of stepping up to replace the migrants.

I'm sad about it all, but life goes on. Let's hope something gets cobbled together this year. I have no great confidence in Johnson and Cummings and their motley band of ambitious but mediocre ministers. New Parliament is an unknown quantity. Labour appears well on the way to self-destruction. LibDems are a spent force. It's hard to be optimistic.

a disaster. I'm appalled. I think a lot less of brexiteers even the friends of mine who voted for it and regret it. You voted for it so own it.
I think some people said they regretted it, only because they were getting abused so frequently.
I think that somehow they will manage to blame remainers if it goes tits up.
Or you push through like every other depression/ down turn in the economy.
I think that brexiteers are appalling and all the hardened ones are unpleasant racists.
What about the voters from different ethnic communities who voted to Leave?
We're fucked. I intend to delete all the news apps from my phone, all social media and avoid all news or live TV for at least a week.
There is nothing to be done. The vile racists have won.
This sort of ranting, slagging off a majority that voted for a wide variety of reasons,is why a Labour lost the vote.
There is no point arguing at this point because none of them can justify the decision in a sane way. When they harp on about fishing quotas and other BS I just despair.
Remainers spent the last two years arguing. Where did that get us.
I hope they all have a great day in their union jack outfits talked about how great we had it during the blitz. Absolute tools.
Says it all.

Not forgotten at all. It is what it is, whether you wanted it or not it's happening.

WrongKindOfFace - yes, looks like Junie70 has read the Transparency CPI index backwards (or possibly is having a joke).

If only we could be up at number 176 with straight and true North Korea, huh?

I’d like to think it was a joke, but having seen some of the utter shite people have spouted over the last few years it probably isn’t.

But what do our MEPs actually do? And what sort of problem or concern would any average UK resident have about which they would write to their MEP?

If this concerned you, what did you do to find out?

www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/european-elections/what_do_they_do.html

I hope you didn’t take the nuclear option of trashing our legal and economic stability just because you ”didn’t know“ what MEPs do! If you knew and disagreed that’s at least understandable...

Genuinely am waiting to see the upside. I don’t see what the advantages are for the majority I have never understood it.

Didn’t vote for it dont want it see it as nothing to do with us. Let those that voted for it sort it out

Or you push through like every other depression/ down turn in the economy

Sure, when these shit occupancies happen, you deal with them. You don’t fucking vote to have them though!