Coronavirus are you worried?

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So this virus has infected 600+ already and seems to be picking up pace. It’ll be in the UK any day, if it’s not already. AIBU to think this is going to have a big fallout and are you concerned?

amp.theguardian.com/science/live/2020/jan/23/coronavirus-china-virus-flu-scotland-testing-wuhan-live-news-updates

@jasjas1973
Really, the uk does not have a poor healthcare system compared to most countries in the world!
I live in China and would take the NHS over my local hospital.

First conformed case is back in early December , giving the incubation period of up to 14 days and the number of people that traveled to and back from Wuhan it’s impossible to contain and it’s very likely that many people had it and recovered .
I’ve also searched about patient x , and there is nothing online that says if he died or survived.

I think it’s either we are really overreacting or maybe it’s truly very serious and things are just coming to light.

Sky news reporting UK first two cases confirmed.

Chinese tourists are cancelling their holidays in the UK. Really badly affecting our local area (Cotswolds).

Very interesting, especially about the arrests of foreigners who tried to blow the whistle...

It was only a matter of time I guess, they didn’t say where though and if they are residents or not .

Should we be worried?

I've got a cold at the moment but not even sure if it's the beginnings of the virus.

@ShanghaiDiva

I didn't say that but compare number of Dr's Nurses and beds per 100,000 of population in the UK with the rest of europe and you'll see what i mean.
We are a developed country, perhaps one of the richest in the world, so comparisons with developing countries are silly.

They are hiding the truth!

Just how are the severity of conformed cases?
Still the majority are in China and just under 200 are in other countries.

There should be more information regarding that.
Are they all like what we see on the news in IC units? With ventilation or are there people who have only normal seasonal flu symptoms.

@jasjas1973
China is not classed as a developing country.

Just how are the severity of conformed cases?

*There should be more information regarding that.
*Are they all like what we see on the news in IC units? With ventilation or are there people who have only normal seasonal flu symptoms.

There's a case in Canada where the person isn't even in hospital, just isolating himself at home and staying in contact with health officials. Sounds a bit on the relaxed side imo but obviously he isn't too ill.

Urggh! If you watch the video above, from 28 mins they talk about 'Wet Markets'. Soap and disinfectant is never used!
No wonder this Coronavirus took hold!
Never going to China, for all the tea in the world.

There's a case in Canada where the person isn't even in hospital, just isolating himself at home and staying in contact with health officials. Sounds a bit on the relaxed side imo but obviously he isn't too ill.

That is what happened here with swine flu. Quarantined at home (alone at the time) with random calls from health officials to check it was being followed. Totally annoying when you are ill and just want to sleep to have calls at 11pm at 4am, but completely understandable that the checks were done

@ShanghaiDiva

Yes it is, its got a very low GDP per capita, you also said "in comparison to most other countries"
www.investopedia.com/updates/top-developing-countries/#china

as of Nov 2019.

You sure you live there? my brother did for many years and married a chinese citizen.

Forestwitch
I am watching the clip now. I already spotted a few red flags, so have started looking into this.
You may find this interesting:

www.activistpost.com/2020/01/johnson-johnson-advised-coronavirus-simulation-now-stands-to-gain-financially-with-new-vaccine.html

and this from 2017:

www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487

....who will likely profit?

Two UK cases apparently being treated at RVI in Newcastle

@jasjas1973
Yes, have lived here for 12 years and it is a a newly industrialised country. But do carry on with your worries regarding the NHS coping.
And I maintain that NHS is much better than most counties in the world.
Carry on with your hysteria and panic.

I'm worried that the NHS might not be able to cope if we get many cases here. My mate's mum was admitted to hospital with swine flu and basically left to die because she was an old lady. My mate (a very assertive retired theatre sister) gave them what for and insisted they sat her up (they'd not bothered, because they'd run out of pillows, ffs) and put her on an oximeter and supported her breathing, and she's now planning her 90th birthday celebration next month (mother, not my mate!).

Things like this really expose global inequalities imo. The death rate will be far higher in poor countries, as ever, and in the west it will mostly be the old, the vulnerable, the frail, the immuno-compromised and those with existing respiratory problems that will really suffer.

After SARS, swine flu and avian flu, I'm feeling quite sanguine about it. And I'm not worried for myself, because I only seem to get flu-type things every 10 years (every year ending in a 9, since 1979).

@ShanghaiDiva

Lol! hilarious! its China thats shut down cities, airlines that have halted flights, countries repatriating its citizens and locking them away......

The NHS cannot cope with seasonal flu, despite widespread vaccination, IF this illness spreads, then the NHS will ban all elective surgery and all non emergency admissions, it does not have the capacity to cope even with the normal, as the above was done 2 years ago because of seasonal flu, its not a case of hysteria but fact.

Yes, and I think the approach is sensible, based on what happened under sars.
The comments on some of the threads on mumsnet is hysterical.
So the NHS would postpone all elective surgeries - seems sensible.
I would still rather be in an NHS hospital than one in China. Perhaps ask your brother’s wife what her view Is..

Never going to China, for all the tea in the world.*
*
Overgeneralising much? Do you never go to France because it's the center of the Spanish flu?

queenoffarles of the 9692 total cases reported centrally in China today, 1982 cases are “severe”, meaning they need hdu or icu care. This figure is about 20% of their reported cases, remember, there will be a far higher proportion of people who are not presenting and being diagnosed at all.

India has just reported its first case now. That's quite worrying as it's hard to see how the authorities there will be able to prevent it spreading.

You ve back tracked significantly! as i said China vs UK healthcare systems are not comparable.

Try Germany/France/Sweden vs UK

Funnily enough SIL goes back to China for dental work ! the UK dental system is terrible.