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MIL Boundaries - She went in the bedroom

248 replies

GYNisaliarWTF · 22/01/2020 05:10

Long one but aren’t they all.
We recently bought and moved into our home (house renovated brand new), it’s round the corner from MIL & she didn’t visit at all at prev address (not too far).

I am pregnant, and very unreasonable 90% of the time hence being here.

We moved in during Xmas break. People have been round unannounced nearly every day since. I am not used to this AT ALL as ‘my people’ have respect for boundaries and prior- warning that they are coming.

This has resulted in MIL finding me asleep on the sofa on two occasions (I’m a sleepy pregnant lady and it was my day off) and has both times made me feel like I shouldn’t be sleeping in the afternoon (disclaimer- I work full time in an office for local government all year including Xmas except bank hols and also run a busy hair and beauty business both home and mobile so most weeks I do 13 hours a day/ 6 days a week) so I think I’ll be forgiven for a nap on my day off.

AIBU
Yesterday she came round when I wasn’t home, she doesn’t usually have a key but is regularly here when I’m not (DP doesn’t mind her being here all the time). She was here all day.
I had preempted that she would clean my house, so on Sunday I cleaned all the way through downstairs. We’d already agreed months ago that both she and my own mother weren’t to have a key as I’d be uncomfortable with them doing washing or cleaning whilst I was out (Id have a cleaner and I’m more than capable of sorting my own washing) she agreed that she too would be annoyed if someone cleaned her house while she was out

I came that came home to find she has cleaned my (already very clean) downstairs toilet, which stunk of bleach (which made me sick) and furthermore had proceeded to clean my (already clean) kitchen, re-arrange my cupboards, move my decorate items around into different places in the windows (giving the impression she didn’t like how I’d done them, or thought I’d done them wrong). She also bought a new window cleaning tool and TEN LIGHT BULBS and left the bill on the living room side after proceeding to change ALL my lightbulbs in my lounge making it now only slightly resemble blackpoolfuckingilluminations. (They are the same specification LED that I use in my beauty lamps for make up application). She obviously thinks my nearly brand new windows and toilets are dirty, so has kitted me out as if she’s doing me a favour (when in reality I’m really just busy, and haven’t got around to unboxing all the cleaning equipment from my previous home yet)

worst of all
When I went upstairs in the evening, I noticed she hadn’t cleaned the upstairs bathroom and was relieved, there’s no need for her to be upstairs; we have a downstairs loo as aforementioned. I took a shower and when I entered my bedroom, my bed is made and window is open. I asked DP if he had done this (I was livid as bedroom minus 2 at this point and I’m soaking wet from shower) he had not. So she’s been in my bedroom, decided the bed needed making and the place needed ‘airing out’. Not only that but she’s not done anything else upstairs, so looks as if she’s gone upstairs and gone straight to our bedroom to do this. Very annoying.

I’m beyond insulted but I daren’t approach it with her. We usually have a great relationship but since having this house she is ignoring my wishes to fulfill her need to fill her nest again, but I’m a fully grown woman who has no requirement for her interference on this level. DP has had to ‘have a word’ with her previously as she bought kitchen items which id already bought.

Advice on how to approach please, I don’t want to hurt her feelings; but she will be really hurt that we’ve got these boundaries in place regardless, as I genuinely don’t think she would think that my bedroom is a no- go- zone.
She cried when I told her I’d already bought a kettle, despite assuring me she’d be happy to take the one she’d bought back to the shop.

I don’t want to burn any bridges but I also want to feel like this is my space, and that I can make it my own home (v difficult for me- new town, no family or friends of my own here, recently discovered pregnant following GYN telling me it wouldn’t ever happen)

Please be kind, although I’m furious about my personal space invasion I do want to keep my relationship with her as she’s an actual angel of a human (but has no boundaries).

OP posts:
GYNisaliarWTF · 22/01/2020 07:54

@Booboostwo I know. Effing nightmare.

OP posts:
Jokie · 22/01/2020 07:55

You need to lay the boundaries clearly. I think she is being very emotional and using that to get her way. Who honestly cries because you bought a kettle??

If you want to be nice, you can reiterate that it was a lovely gesture but please don't do this in future.

Footle · 22/01/2020 07:55

Think how you'd feel if you bought a new kettle for your dolls' house , and when you went to put it in you found the Mummy doll had already bought one..
I think you are not quite real to her.
Hope you manage to pull the situation back to where you are comfortable together.

CurbsideProphet · 22/01/2020 07:56

My MIL has been known to cry when wanting her own way. She has also been in our bedroom while we were away and announced cleaned everywhere because it was "filthy" Hmm As such she is now never given a key. It saves arguments and upset.
(My parents don't have a key either.)

Leave your DH to deal with her.

Marcipex · 22/01/2020 07:56

The crying is sooooo obviously controlling. ‘Oh don’t upset mil, she was so upset last week about the kettle.!!!! etc Wtf who cries over a kettle.
Rearranging the cupboards would make me livid.
And why shouldn’t you be asleep on your day off? Whether pregnant or not.
Buy the kettle you wanted.
Throw away the receipt for the lightbulbs. Who changes other people’s lightbulbs anyway? You said she is minted so it won’t matter.
Put a chain on the door, then no one can catch you asleep/undressed/breastfeeding again.

ofay · 22/01/2020 07:58

A nice MIL would have returned the kettle etc and given you the money towards the Salter stuff you actually wanted. The lightbulb situation is just bizarre.

Do not smooth things over, let the dust settle. She needed telling.

mathanxiety · 22/01/2020 07:59

I voted YANBU because what you are putting up with is outrageous, but there should have been a YABU option to the question about preventing hurt feelings because you are BU on that score.

Your MIL sounds like someone who has everyone wound around her little finger by convenient timing of the waterworks. Maybe as a result, your H has little or no practice telling her to back off and hence the performance in which he basically threw you under the bus for fear of being put in his mother's doghouse. ExH used to do this to me when it came to confronting his mother.

Let MIL stew a while. She will survive her upset.

Then go around and tell her there is to be no more impromptu visiting.
Tell her she can call ahead if she wants to come over but you may or may not be up for a visit.
Tell her straight up that she is not to do any more cleaning or rearranging in your home, that it has taken you quite a while to find everything since the last intrusion, and that you were upset that she had seen fit to change what you were perfectly happy with.
See how she reacts to the idea that she is not the only one claiming the right to be upset here.

In a few weeks you will be sitting on your milk-spattered couch trying to get your baby to burp, your nursing bra akimbo, your t-shirt rolled up, sweatpants from Monday still going strong on Thursday, and you do not want your BIL or MIL or anyone else to walk in on this cozy scene of domestic bliss.

Stand your ground here, but be prepared for a fight. Your MIL will not back down easily but you cannot let her win. If you find yourself approaching this with the aim of feeling that everyone likes you and finds you friendly you will lose, and they will keep on walking in on you and making your life miserable. You are going to have to sit with the feeling that your MIL and BIL and other ILs don't like you. Can you deal with that?

CalmdownJanet · 22/01/2020 07:59

DO NOT TRY TO FIX IT!!! She is NOT heartbroken she is manipulating you!! To be honest the fact you still have her kettle because she cried shows you are a complete fucking sucker and are making a rod for your own back, you are so fucked when the baby comes it won't even be funny, step back, let her cry, you'll regret it if you don't

billy1966 · 22/01/2020 07:59

OP,
You have a DP who supported you.

You are very wrong to undermine what he did.

Your MIL being upset is her problem.

She was asked not to enter and clean your house.

You sound a little bit naive.

She is manipulative.

Follow your DP's lead.

She does not respect your right to privacy.

Do not go near her.

She is in the wrong.

If you do go over and undermine you DP when he has made it clear to HIS mother that she is in the wrong.....well you cannot complain.

She needed telling.

She was asked NOT to enter your house.

And who the hell crys over a kettle.

A very manipulative woman who is used to getting her own way.

Your DP has the measure of her.

Stay away for her.

Let her see ye mean business.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 22/01/2020 08:01

I still have the ones she bought and never did get my pretty Salter ones (which now with baby on the way id feel guilty spending the cash on)

WHAT?!

Nononononononononono!

Get rid of them - now. Take them to a charity shop (a lot will take electrical items. There is no need to feel guilty about buying new ones, even at that price - it will soothe your very soul to have the things you like around you.

Don't make a big thing of it. (ie You don't have to ring her up and shriek "Your fucking kettle is in the bin!")

Sometime or other she'll go into your kitchen and notice, and you can tell her then "Oh - I just couldn't get away with the design of the other. It was lovely but just not to our taste." and stop the conversation there.

She wanted to treat you? Lovely! Why didn't she get the kettle you'd set your heart on?

Because she's controlling and manipulative and is moulding you in her own image.

Randomname85 · 22/01/2020 08:05

I am really sad at the assumptions this woman is manipulative. My MIL is always cleaning things up when she’s here and at first I felt really embarrassed as it felt as though she thought I wasn’t tidy enough - but the fact is she adores me and my daughter (and my husband obviously!) and it is coming from a VERY GOOD PLACE. There are times I feel she’s overstepping such as she’ll randomly go through my fridge and take out the stuff a day or two past their use by and just leave them on the side as a hint 😂 however she is just a wonderful person trying to look after everyone.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 22/01/2020 08:09

I feel like a duck out of water

Ducks do fine out of water.

Okay - they waddle a bit and are clumsy - but they manage just fine. And so will you.

Just don't approach her; back up your DP; let her tears flow over you like gentle summer rain . . .

If she starts crying in front of you and you feel upset, just say "Excuse me", go upstairs and have a lie-down/ read a book/ listen to the radio etc.

If anyone comes looking for you, tell them "I can't deal with her constant weeping without getting angry, so I'm just removing myself from the equation. Please bring me a cup of tea. And maybe a biscuit. A chocolate one"

Grin

Seriously, though - don't buy in to her madness.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 22/01/2020 08:10

My MIL is always cleaning things up when she’s here and at first I felt really embarrassed as it felt as though she thought I wasn’t tidy enough - but the fact is she adores me and my daughter (and my husband obviously!) and it is coming from a VERY GOOD PLACE.

Does she burst into tears when you buy minor household items, though?

testing987654321 · 22/01/2020 08:13

Make sure she never has a key and you never ask her to be alone in your house.

Secondly, she is not sensitive. A sensitive person would recognise your boundaries.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 22/01/2020 08:16

I think your kettle story is worse than the rearranging of your stuff OP.Bless you ...I insist you cheer yourself up today and have a treat for yourself ..go and buy your kettle and toaster today.Call it a last fling before the baby comes. Go on do it ! Put all this stress behind you and leave it now for your dh to deal with .Do not dwell any further on MIL for now.Go buy your kettle and toaster ..your home your rules from now on.My advise would be in all honesty to chat with your dh about what you both can find acceptable together regarding MIL .Be kind but be firm.Explain how much you value her and want to spend time with her but as an equal adult on an equal footing.There is no need or expectation or want for her to do any jobs or anything else for you both as you are adults and have it covered and all you require is her company where you can enjoy time together . She did way overstep boundaries and its not acceptable to interfere in your home as she did . Thing is you cannot waver from this as give her an inch and she will take a mile unintentionally perhaps.Clear the air when the dust has settled and make a plan,This means though if you tell her you cannot go back on it.Organise your life so parcels are delivered to work ,appointments are made when you are both there and eliminate any reason for her to be unaccompanied in your home.You can do this tactfully and discreetly so she is not aware you are controlling the issues. And go buy your kettle as soon as the shops open! Call it therapy!

SaphfireRose · 22/01/2020 08:18

Posters are right. Most MIL threads on here are about the DH not backing up his wife and taking his mother's side over his wife's. The threads I earlier alluded to were ones where the wife moved to his town, very close to his family, she felt suffocated and not able to relax for even a day in their home, and the DH saw no problem with his family coming and going at all hours, and would not speak up for his wife.

You are extremely lucky you have a man that is able to tell his mother to back off. I think what your DP said was not overstated or too much at all. I think it was just right (except yeah, he could have mentioned the cleaning and re-arranging) and it was about time someone said it. I also think it's good he told her not to come around all the time, because believe me, you will be grateful for the peace post-birth. I wouldn't seek her out to talk to her about cleaning and re-arranging, I'd just hope she wouldn't come over for awhile and leave you in peace for awhile. Talk to her when she next comes over, but don't unravel your DP's excellent work by going over to her home or seeking her out for a talk. Just let it all die down and lie low. Wait for her to come to you.

Reginabambina · 22/01/2020 08:18

I can’t get over leaving the receipt. Dies she actually expect you to pay for it or does she just want you to know how much her horrid bulbs cost her before you bin them? What a nutter.

SaphfireRose · 22/01/2020 08:20

Secondly, she is not sensitive. A sensitive person would recognise your boundaries.

This EXACTLY!!! She is manipulative, she is not sensitive. Sensitive people are usually introverted and understand people's need for space. Your MIL is the exact opposite.

81Byerley · 22/01/2020 08:22

My friend's mother in law walked in on them having sex in the living room.....she started ringing the doorbell and waiting, after that!

CalmdownJanet · 22/01/2020 08:24

Randomname85 that's totally different, op told mil not to clean, the mil agreed she wouldn't like it, she did it anyway and totally overstepped with rearranging, then cries when people aren't happy. Cries about a kettle, that's manipulative not from a good place. That's all versus your mil who cleaned, wasn't corrected (I assume) and so has kept because you're not saying anything has told her it's ok to do, totally different

Mumofone1902 · 22/01/2020 08:27

My MIL is your MIL.

Every time I tried to explain that she was overstepping she would cry and relive the conversation VERY differently to family.

The only thing you can do is get your DP to deal with it at these type of mothers do anything to make their children happy. Although ironically my MIL snuck around the other day and told me she had to leave before DH finished work as he doesn't like her coming around unnanouced Hmm

My favourite was when I said her letting herself in and taking our washing to do at her house was overstepping and I didn't like her touching my underwear/ dirty milk bras ect. so she broke in and folded all our dirty washing by the washing machine instead Confused

HJWT · 22/01/2020 08:28

I’m beyond insulted but I daren’t approach it with her

That is your problem right there

' HI MIL, lovely of you to clean the house but in future please don't, this is my personal space and I like to clean how I like to clean, I also like my things arranged how they were otherwise they would not of been like that. I would also really appreciate in future if you don't come in the house unless DH or I are home and just pop us a quick message before you set of so you know we are in, you never know if I don't reply I may be napping! Got to get the sleep in before baby arrives 😁 thanks for understanding! X '

Put your foot down now before you know it she will be walking in when you have just got home from hospital telling you to bottle feed your breastfed baby or that your not doing something right with baby, this will cause a lot more trouble! Trust me 😜

buddhababy2019 · 22/01/2020 08:32

Sorry but you sound a bit like you want to have your cake and eat it too. Happy to have her sit in the house all day for you but then pissed odd when she probably thinks she's doing something nice by cleaning for her pregnant daughter in law - maybe she knows how hard you work and is trying to save you doing housework so you can relax when you're at home? I'm also pregnant and would flippin love if I got home to find family had bothered to visit never mind clean the house!
Then your DH does what you want and tells her not to do it and you get pissed off at him?
I think you are being a bit unreasonable here.

saraclara · 22/01/2020 08:41

Your DH really picked the wrong time to tell her not to call round so often. This is the day he asked HER to come round and stay in all day stay in to suit you, right?

What was he thinking?

I'm totally with you on the cleaning and light bulb thing, but seriously?

Yes, I think you should go round to see her. Not to undermine him, but to give her chance to talk. She did wrong, but she'll still be devastated. And for the wrong reasons.

BreatheAndFocus · 22/01/2020 08:41

I completely agree with PPs. This woman isn’t “nice”, she’s very controlling. I suspect you are nothing to her, OP - just the woman between her and her son. Maybe he had good cause to speak firmly to her because he knows what she’s like from bitter experience.

People like this don’t actually take on board what you say. They act the victim and then continue to do what you asked them not to and try to make you feel guilty if you complain: “I was only trying to be helpful” sad-face, trembling lip.

Take away her key and never give her a key again
Never.

*Be very aware that controlling behaviour can often take place under the guise of ‘niceness’ or ‘kindness’.

And give her all the lightbulbs back, give her kettle to charity, and buy the kettle and toaster you want!