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MIL Boundaries - She went in the bedroom

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GYNisaliarWTF · 22/01/2020 05:10

Long one but aren’t they all.
We recently bought and moved into our home (house renovated brand new), it’s round the corner from MIL & she didn’t visit at all at prev address (not too far).

I am pregnant, and very unreasonable 90% of the time hence being here.

We moved in during Xmas break. People have been round unannounced nearly every day since. I am not used to this AT ALL as ‘my people’ have respect for boundaries and prior- warning that they are coming.

This has resulted in MIL finding me asleep on the sofa on two occasions (I’m a sleepy pregnant lady and it was my day off) and has both times made me feel like I shouldn’t be sleeping in the afternoon (disclaimer- I work full time in an office for local government all year including Xmas except bank hols and also run a busy hair and beauty business both home and mobile so most weeks I do 13 hours a day/ 6 days a week) so I think I’ll be forgiven for a nap on my day off.

AIBU
Yesterday she came round when I wasn’t home, she doesn’t usually have a key but is regularly here when I’m not (DP doesn’t mind her being here all the time). She was here all day.
I had preempted that she would clean my house, so on Sunday I cleaned all the way through downstairs. We’d already agreed months ago that both she and my own mother weren’t to have a key as I’d be uncomfortable with them doing washing or cleaning whilst I was out (Id have a cleaner and I’m more than capable of sorting my own washing) she agreed that she too would be annoyed if someone cleaned her house while she was out

I came that came home to find she has cleaned my (already very clean) downstairs toilet, which stunk of bleach (which made me sick) and furthermore had proceeded to clean my (already clean) kitchen, re-arrange my cupboards, move my decorate items around into different places in the windows (giving the impression she didn’t like how I’d done them, or thought I’d done them wrong). She also bought a new window cleaning tool and TEN LIGHT BULBS and left the bill on the living room side after proceeding to change ALL my lightbulbs in my lounge making it now only slightly resemble blackpoolfuckingilluminations. (They are the same specification LED that I use in my beauty lamps for make up application). She obviously thinks my nearly brand new windows and toilets are dirty, so has kitted me out as if she’s doing me a favour (when in reality I’m really just busy, and haven’t got around to unboxing all the cleaning equipment from my previous home yet)

worst of all
When I went upstairs in the evening, I noticed she hadn’t cleaned the upstairs bathroom and was relieved, there’s no need for her to be upstairs; we have a downstairs loo as aforementioned. I took a shower and when I entered my bedroom, my bed is made and window is open. I asked DP if he had done this (I was livid as bedroom minus 2 at this point and I’m soaking wet from shower) he had not. So she’s been in my bedroom, decided the bed needed making and the place needed ‘airing out’. Not only that but she’s not done anything else upstairs, so looks as if she’s gone upstairs and gone straight to our bedroom to do this. Very annoying.

I’m beyond insulted but I daren’t approach it with her. We usually have a great relationship but since having this house she is ignoring my wishes to fulfill her need to fill her nest again, but I’m a fully grown woman who has no requirement for her interference on this level. DP has had to ‘have a word’ with her previously as she bought kitchen items which id already bought.

Advice on how to approach please, I don’t want to hurt her feelings; but she will be really hurt that we’ve got these boundaries in place regardless, as I genuinely don’t think she would think that my bedroom is a no- go- zone.
She cried when I told her I’d already bought a kettle, despite assuring me she’d be happy to take the one she’d bought back to the shop.

I don’t want to burn any bridges but I also want to feel like this is my space, and that I can make it my own home (v difficult for me- new town, no family or friends of my own here, recently discovered pregnant following GYN telling me it wouldn’t ever happen)

Please be kind, although I’m furious about my personal space invasion I do want to keep my relationship with her as she’s an actual angel of a human (but has no boundaries).

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YellWat · 22/01/2020 07:22

@Soontobe60, it might be worth reading over this thread and seeing how children and their partners might view this. It may not be as welcomed as you think...

Ragglesnaggle · 22/01/2020 07:23

Oh my Christ. Your DH has done the right thing. Don't undermine him.

She cries to manipulate and it looks like it works on you.
If you go round to 'smooth things over' you'll be back on here in a month saying she's done it again.
Carry on as normal next time you see her.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 22/01/2020 07:26

@DisinterestedParty.....I think your family must be really good and have some semblence of respecting boundaries on all sides. I envy you if this is the case! I wish it was the case universally but here on mumsnet it seems to be a rarity!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 22/01/2020 07:28

Totally with BillHadersNewWife on this one - don't pull any punches.

This isn't "kindness" - it's manipulation!

She cried because you had already bought a kettle? She CRIED?

This is NOT normal behaviour.

Get the key back. Put a chain on the door (just in case she has had a copy made. Don't put up with this crap - you needn't be nasty, but tell her that you are feeling pregnant and tired and emotional and you need advance warning of company. If she turns up unannounced, tell her you are resting and send her home (she's just round the corner - it's hardly a six-hour drive).

Your relationship, your choice, but I can promise you that this will get worse and worse.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 22/01/2020 07:29

Cross-post Ragglesnaggle

Total emotional blackmail here.

Sadiee88 · 22/01/2020 07:30

Flipping eck! I’d be very annoyed.
It seems your other half has taken care of your problem though.... Blush
I’d be careful about how you approach telling her it’s ok to come over. Because in my experience she probably will. All the effing time!
I’d be tempted to say nothing and leave things as they areHmm

I have the exact opposite problem of untidy, visiting MIL and hubby side of family.

GYNisaliarWTF · 22/01/2020 07:31

@DisinterestedParty thank you my dear.

@Soontobe60
You are taking my post of context. I am not complaining about my 13 hour days, I am self employed (so I make my own day; and choose for it to be 13 hours).
Your DD’s obviously don’t mind you helping them, which is lovely. But my MIL and I agreed she wouldn’t clean my house. And she has. That is the issue. Its not being ungrateful because I asked her not to do it and she did. My house was also not dirty, as aforementioned I cleaned said brand new house to impeccable standard on Sunday evening. There was no need to clean at all and she blatantly ignored my request to respect my home and went bleach crazy anyway.
I am grateful for her in her entirety to just be DP’s mother, not my housekeeper. I do not wish for her to feel that she needs to do these things for me, because I do not think it appropriate to add pressure to her busy life. She is the sort of person who would feel obliged to continue this if I told her it really helped me (and I am more than comfortable to tell her that I need help when I do.)

Families are welcome to make themselves at home here, but right now I am settling into a new environment and I’m feeling a little sensitive, so they can make themselves at home as soon as I feel like this is my home. Which right now it doesn’t. Thanks for your helpful input though.

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SHAR0N · 22/01/2020 07:32

You don't need to fix anything
You don't need to undermine your DP
Leave it!

This is good advice. Butt out , he’s trying his best to fix things.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 22/01/2020 07:32

She’s definitely overbearing and YANbU to be upset. Now that DH has upset her this is an opportunity to reset expectations.

Sadiee88 · 22/01/2020 07:32

@SchadenfreudePersonified. - Im in full agreement!

rhowton · 22/01/2020 07:32

My MIL does all of that and I see her as an extension of us!! My mum would do it and I wouldn't care (nor would DH) so why should I mind if my MIL does it! You're so lucky you have a MIL who obviously cares about you, loves you and wants to do nice things for you! You could have an absolute cow on your hands!

Glitterfisher · 22/01/2020 07:32

@Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe I dont think it is a rarity, it's just that no one posts on MN about their normal families. We all have keys for each others houses but dont just let ourselves in or turn up randomly as we are relatively normal, most people I know are the same.

@GYNisaliarWTF I think it is lovely you are happy to see MIL as there are so many who arent but I agree with everyone that you need to set boundaries and take back the key as she clearly has no idea what is normal. Its probably even more important to do this with a baby on the way.

Readordead · 22/01/2020 07:32

Leave it don’t go round and ‘smooth things over’, her son has told her to stop it, she will listen. Unless you go round and tell it’s ok.
Absolutely do not go round. She’ll start crying and you’ll feel bad and give in.
This type of behaviour will get 100 times worse when your baby arrives if you don’t stand your ground now
Crying over a kettle ffs

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 22/01/2020 07:37

Sounds like the was bored of waiting around for the phone to be fixed and decided to help out. It sounds like she's coming from a good place.

If she hasn't got a key she can't come in,so make sure you ask someone else to sit in all day next time,you might find that hard though.

GYNisaliarWTF · 22/01/2020 07:41

Thank you again ladies (I’m assuming, soz) for your input. It’s all really appreciated.

Probably worth mentioning re: kettle.....
I had found a kettle and toaster that I wanted (Salter brand, around £180 for the set) and was waiting until we moved in (so that I didn’t have to store them at the risk of them being damaged because expensive) to buy them. I showed her, she said how nice they were etc. She then proceed a week later to go and buy me a kettle and toaster from dunhelm which weren’t what I wanted.
Then cried when I explained that I’d already seen some I wanted.

End of story- I still have the ones she bought and never did get my pretty Salter ones (which now with baby on the way id feel guilty spending the cash on) Hmm

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Booboostwo · 22/01/2020 07:42

I think she sounds quite controlling. She does things she knows are overstepping the boundary and then has exaggerated reactions, e.g. crying, being heart broken. It sounds like she's in a pissing contest with you over DH and she's using your house to provoke you. You also have a DH problem I am afraid...

REignbow · 22/01/2020 07:42

It’s his mother and he’s told her to stop, she’s using tears and crying to manipulate so that she can trample all over your boundaries.

Use this as a lesson before baby comes. Just look at threads on here where the MIL once baby has arrived has:

Let herself in whilst mum was feeding the baby (breastfeeding) in her own front room and made the mother feel uncomfortable

Felt it okay to ‘pop round’ every five mins (as it’s her right)!

The list goes on.

Leave her to sulk and ignore the tantrum. Back your DP (he sounds very level headed BTW) and stick to very firm boundaries with her.

GYNisaliarWTF · 22/01/2020 07:42

And I appreciate I sound like a snob but she is absolutely minted and none of us have unbranded kit in our kitchens, so it kinda felt like she wanted control.

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REignbow · 22/01/2020 07:45

There was your mistake right there!

You should of ignored her tears over the kettle and bought the ones YOU wanted.

It seems that by being ‘nice and trying to smooth things over’ has resulted in her trampling all over your boundaries.

Time to pull up your big girl pants and get assertive.

She’s a grown women and you cannot control her reactions to your normal expectations. She’s controlling.

Keep firm!

rookiemere · 22/01/2020 07:46

She's not trying to be nice, she's being controlling. If it was the cleaning on its own that would be a boundary breaker with good intentions, but to change all your lightbulbs and present you with the bill - she sounds deranged and I'd never let her in my house again on her own. Don't go and undo your DHs harsh words - she deserves them.

GYNisaliarWTF · 22/01/2020 07:49

Ref to those saying DP is level headed and I should back him- thank you
I really do need to let him take the reigns as it is his mother, I’m just disappointed he didn’t elaborate why she isn’t welcome to poll up 24/7 and establish a boundary about what is acceptable when she’s here. But I’m planning to ask her politely not to clean and rearrange or buy household items, as those are my jobs i feel like I’d like to do to help me settle in. Hopefully she’ll know I mean no harm and understand I’m just making my nestGrin

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Sadiee88 · 22/01/2020 07:49

@GYNisaliarWTF
You should’ve bought what you wanted! (You still should)
my MIL is the same! She also buys the same things as I do, changes her colour schemes to mine. She may mean well, but there’s underlying control issues here! Nip it in the bud!

gamerchick · 22/01/2020 07:50

OP, wake up. Crying indeed, one of the biggest manipulative things around crying.

Don't undermine your bloke. You go and smooth nothing over with her, he's dealt with it and she's his mother. She's not thick, she'll know exactly what he meant.

GYNisaliarWTF · 22/01/2020 07:51

Ps I am well aware that she needs a firm grip because she is also very experienced in the midwife dept so will have lots to do with the baby anyway as a result so it really is important that I establish these boundaries now. I’m so grateful for your help, I feel like a duck out of water being pregnant let alone dealing with this BS

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SHAR0N · 22/01/2020 07:53

If she doesn’t have a key then she won’t be able to clean.

When she is in the house with you, say politely “ I’ve asked you not to do that MIL. Please have a seat and enjoy your tea “.

You don’t have to justify or explain why you don’t want her to clean or rearrange things. It’s not normal behaviour in other people’s homes.