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AIBU to be really fucked with inability to sleep at night

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Reallycantbefuckedtothink · 20/01/2020 05:26

Just that really, I have always suffered with insomnia but since after Christmas, it has gone up a whole new level.

I managed to fall asleep at around 11pm woke up at 11.15 wide a fucking awake and haven't been able to sleep since.

Its really fucking me up, time spent with DS and DP and to be able to do anything at all because I get so tired during the day.

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Graphista · 21/01/2020 04:37

Nearly started this thread myself.

I have ocd, agoraphobia (currently 2 years housebound), anxiety (general aside from the ocd) and depression.

Been averaging 4 hours in a 24 hour period for the last 3 years at least, but generally insomnia goes back to when I split from ex 17 years ago.

But last few weeks WAY worse I've had points where I'm going over 30 hours with no sleep at all, crashing but even then only getting 4-5 hours before I'm awake again.

Twice in the last week!

I feel dreadful.

Sleeping pills don't work on me - even anaesthetics inc general anaesthetics I need more than I am supposed to get. First time I had a GA the pre-med had zero effect to the point they were second guessing themselves if I'd had it, I took longer to go under than most and I started waking as being wheeled into recovery room and that was even with a "boost" that the anaesthesiologist was nervous about giving but I was showing signs of being close to rousing during op.

I'm on mirtazipine supposedly for the ocd and depression and when I started on it, it did make me drowsy but it quickly stopped having that effect.

I've had blood tests, I've tried various vitamins and supplements.

In the very early days a milky drink and lavender on pillow helped very slightly plus me "making" myself sleep lying eyes closed for up to 2 hours till I fell asleep.

I now cannot sleep unless one of my familiar tv shows is streaming on tablet, if it goes quiet I wake up!

I wear an eye mask to make it very dark for me.

But honestly nothing really seems to help for more than a day or 2.

My brain just won't switch off!

Chintzflowers · 21/01/2020 04:42

Darn, hoped you’d all have a magic cure. Been awake since 2 am.
Can’t seem to find melatonin to buy, just rubbish I’ve tried on amazon ( not melatonin and not working )

stuckinthemiddlewithtwats · 21/01/2020 04:44

@Reallycantbefuckedtothink

I've said to my partner numerous times that I reckon I'll actually get more sleep once we have the baby. I can't possibly get less than I do now.
Fingers crossed our baby has a good pattern like yours did. I'm close to finishing work and can't wait as the commuting is draining me. But that just means extra hours laid in bed not sleeping as I won't be bothering to get up at 5am anymore.

Does the insomnia run in your family? I know my parents and brother all struggle to sleep, but not quite as badly as I do. Mine has been happening since I was about 7 and I'm fed up of it (about 30yrs) - I feel like I'm losing my mind sometimes when it's been days since I've slept.

Reallycantbefuckedtothink · 21/01/2020 05:00

@8Graphista you and me can be twins right down to the mental health conditions

@stuckinthemiddlewithtwats as far as I know, no, but I come from a family who tend to ignore mental illness, but I know from second cousins type things (Its difficult to explain) that my family have a history, I like to say my brother got the tidiness, my sister got the brains and I got the mental part

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Shockers · 21/01/2020 05:09

I came to bed at 11, but struggled to fall asleep. I was awake at 2 for about an hour, then have dozed until pain woke me properly half an hour ago. I feel sick (I do every night)- what can it be? I’ve drunk 3 pints of water through the night because my mouth is so dry when I wake up.

I know I’ll fall asleep again at around 6:30. Luckily, I’m not working at the moment because I’m waiting for an operation. I’m so fed up!

Quirkyquichie · 21/01/2020 05:10

Someone I know suffers like this, their friend suggested they unplugged their wifi at night so they tried it and say they have slept much better.

LesLavandes · 21/01/2020 05:11

I'm on holiday in Thailand at the moment. Do they sell zopiclone over counter in pharmacies?

Shockers · 21/01/2020 05:12

I’m going to try that @Quirkyquichie.

Idolovechocolategimmygimmy · 21/01/2020 06:18

Well I dosed off shortly before my alarm went off. I maybe had 3.5 hours sleep. Tonight I better sleep like a log!!

AutumnRose1 · 21/01/2020 06:41

Quirky

I always turn it off at night or or when I’m at work...also mine predates the invention of WiFi by quite a lot!

Poster in Thailand - no idea, but if you can, buy loads!

AutumnRose1 · 21/01/2020 06:44

Pity a full pack? My GP only gives out 7 at one time, maximum, in dire emergency I.e. no sleep for days.

TheGoogleMum · 21/01/2020 06:49

I've had sleep difficulties since having my baby, I've been prescribed low dose amitriptyline to help with my frequent rensuin headaches and it's made me that extra bit sleepy I'm generally sleeping much better. I don't think they prescribe it for insomnia though sadly. I worry what I'll be like when it's time to come off.

TheGoogleMum · 21/01/2020 06:51

*tension headaches

PityParty4one · 21/01/2020 07:03

A full pack. I didn't realise it was not the norm.

I have had them about 2 years. I was having a really bad time with DS and depression plus insomnia nearly sent me over the edge.
I haven't taken a single one as I was too scared I would be reliant on them but at the same time I cannot bring myself to throw them away.

AutumnRose1 · 21/01/2020 07:06

pity don’t throw them away! They are precious!

Nobody can get hold of them on here, so we’re not addicted. 🤷🏻‍♀️

strantia · 21/01/2020 07:18

I tried Zopiclone which didn’t help so then got Queitapine which really helped, my insomnia is anxiety related. Am weaning myself off the queitapine now and am back to waking at 2am.

calgaryreminiscence · 21/01/2020 07:22

iHerb sells melatonin - it’s crazy that we are the only country that regulates it so heavily.
Weighted blankets reduced evening pre-sleep anxiety for us.

Reallycantbefuckedtothink · 21/01/2020 07:22

@Quirkyquichie I tried that and nothing, I am still up about to get DS up and start my day, still fuck all sleep. Although I am going to blame last night on my neighbours having a party, rather than insomnia just because it makes me feels better to blame someone else neighbours warned me and could barely hear them, apart from once maybe

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calgaryreminiscence · 21/01/2020 07:23

If you have night waking too, sustained release and weighted blankets both help with that a bit. Not getting enough sleep is so draining.

peardrops1 · 21/01/2020 07:25

@Chintzflowers you can buy liquid melatonin on biovea.net. 1mg strength is good - stronger isn't usually necessary. Just a few drops before bed (and whatever they flavour it with makes it taste delicious!).

FredaFrogspawn · 21/01/2020 07:43

@Shockers - have you had a diabetes test? Just a thought.

I used to suffer appallingly from not sleeping in my late thirties. I couldn’t switch my head off. In the end, I used to convince myself that every minute awake was a treasure of peace and tranquillity, moments to myself. That helped a bit because once I convinced myself it was good time, I was more likely to be less anxious and fall asleep.

These days I have period of insomnia. I’m afraid if I get really tired I take two co-codamol and two ibuprofen- not too often as a codine can be addictive. It does help me sleep deeply enough to get four or so hours in the trot. Probably not doing me much good though. I also ditched my Fitbit because I was getting a bit obsessed with how much I was sleeping.

FredaFrogspawn · 21/01/2020 07:44

Or wasn’t sleeping rather...

Janicejaniceahmfallin · 21/01/2020 08:04

Hi all. Don’t have time to RTFT right now but just wanted to say: weighted blanket plus this -

Hope link works - really, really simple but you have to persevere; I guess it’s like a form of meditation. Has sorted me out after 7 years of chronic, illness-inducing sleep deprivation with DD, which segued straight into peri menopausal night sweats and insomnia. For years I never slept beyond 2 or 3am. Now I do.

Hope it can help some of you.

Chintzflowers · 21/01/2020 08:30

thanks for the links Peardrops and Calgary...sorry I couldn’t l8nk your names properly

AutumnRose1 · 21/01/2020 11:19

Freda codeine is what my mum’s friend - 85 - uses. But I had it for spinal injury and it shredded my stomach. Can’t take period painkillers either.

Going to investigate the private doctor option.