Transgender dolls

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AIBU to think this is wrong?

Wow. This will go well.

I'll bite: express why it's wrong?

What is wrong? Why? What are you even talking about?

No info given at all, just a goady fucker question

YABU

In what way is a doll transgender? A doll with boys parts in a dress?

Surely dolls only have a form/shape (after moulding) and do not have a gender?

Ah! Is this to do with Action Man and Ken not having genitals?

YABU.

What nonsense. Plenty of children have dressed their baby boy dolls in pink babygrows and Ken in dresses. Barbie has worn Ken’s army camouflage clothing too. It’s just toys.

It is wrong because you can't discern the sincerely-felt-internal-essence-of-being-male-or-female. It is making a mockery of gender non conforming people who don't have a ladybrain or a manlybrain.

Dolls can wear whatever the person chooses to dress them in so yabu.

What is a transgender doll?

Well it depends - normal dolls that you can dress in “boy” or “girl” clothes - fine.

David doll with snap off penis, and clever “growing breasts” to become Davina, less so.

Mumsnet is obsessed with all things transgender surely if there is such a thing as transgender dolls you don't have to buy them?

It’s wrong because it’s transphobic. Any doll could be transgender. Trans people don’t have to look a particular way. How do you know that Barbie isn’t really a really feminine transman? Or post op transwoman?

I suppose maybe you could have famous trans icon dolls. Daniela Muscato Barbie for example would be very popular I’m sure. Or Jessica. Yaniv.

You’ll need to describe what you’re on about. Links help.

I also saw them advertised. This is a picture of one.

Is it wrong because a little girl might take her transgender doll into the female changingrooms. how horrible!

Are you worried the doll will want to share a changing room with that well-known ‘real’ woman, Barbie?

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What on earth is a transgender doll. Does it come with clip on genitals?

Or do you mean an ordinary doll that comes with both trousers and skirts or can have both long and short hair. If the latter I had one of those in the 80s.

Sorry for double post, it seemed that the image hadn't uploaded.

I’m surprised that someone with such an old fashioned house would buy something so 21st Century.

The whole thing is a bit daft. I've seen the doll you're on about and it's just a doll with a penis and long hair. So a male bodied doll with long hair then. Children should have access to toys that resemble them though so if you have a boy who has long hair this might be nice for them to have. Doesn't make them transgender, obviously.

Well that's just creepy and weird. I thought you meant an adult type doll, not a baby/very young child.

Children being labelled 'trans' at such young ages are like vegan cats.

@Timmytoo that's a bit grim

I dislike them solely for the reason they are obviously directed at very young children; under 7’s usually play with dolls, and I think that’s too young for a child to be identified as transgender.