Laurence Fox on Question Time

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It isn't ok to try and shut anyone up with remarks about their skin colour. It doesn't matter if that skin colour is white, black or green with purple spots.

His fellow actors have been told to "denounce" him. It looks like he can wave goodbye to his career. What lovely tolerant people the ultra woke are.
www.thestage.co.uk/news/2020/laurence-fox-labelled-a-disgrace-to-industry-following-question-time-race-row/

girls from the same background were abused

A broad term which is open to interpretation.
From the 'same background' or 'Asian' could mean a girl of mixed English and Asian heritage, who had been brought up in an 'English' family and who is not a Muslim.

All MPs are highly privileged, but white ones have some additional privilege in not suffering racist abuse

No figures yet on abuse of MPs in the December GE, but before the 2017 GE:

"Black and Asian female MPs received 35% more abusive tweets than their white colleagues, even when Abbott was excluded from the total, the research found."

So including her, the % increase in abuse would have been even worse....

She received 45% of all sexist /racist tweets sent to female MPs in the entire HoC

Yes, she played a prominant role and she cocked up publicly,
but not to that extent.
It was another example of the media whipping up a hatefest against one particular WOC, because they spotted vulnerability

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/05/diane-abbott-more-abused-than-any-other-mps-during-election

The UK has a serious class problem
It also has a racist problem
Both can exist in the same country

@Piggywaspushed Yes.. I guess because everyone knows that women over 35 don't have an opinion or... maybe he thinks the 35+ women are just too damn grateful to disagree with him.

LF is just an aging scumbag who wants to justify dating younger women.

Laurence Fox is 41, which is hardly ageing... And he doesn’t want to date women under 35.

He's a posh scumbag who slags off working class actors and black ones too.

So..... anyone who isn't like him

It could be any girl, basically, but mostly girls from Asian backgrounds have been abused through child marriage or 'honour killings' whereas CSE has involved vulnerable white girls, mostly in care.

These are sexual predators and they are the guilty ones, whatever the backgrounds of their victims.

The perpetrators are nearly always men (98% of convictions);
the victims are mostly women & girls

That's in every country & society around the world:
a predatory man problem

"What lovely tolerant people the ultra woke are." - this.

There are two things here.

There is racism - where people are disparaged for who they are.

Then, there is behaviour. And black people can behave badly.

Wokery is when the two things get mixed up. This whole thing of 'you can't say anything critical of a black person, because, waaaaycist? Is in itself highly racist. People are responsible human beings before they are an identity.

I think that ON HER BEHAVIOUR, Meghan is a piece of work and it is not racist of Laurence Fox to comment on that.

Too many people have reported that she drops them when better comes along, for it to be an unfair attack. It was not racist of his brother to say 'you do not know her, is this swift marriage a good idea?'

These are not issues of race, they are issues of character. Wokery that tries to shut this sort of discussion down must be resisted.

The UK has a serious class problem
It also has a racist problem
Both can exist in the same country

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If this is true, then why does the New Statesman (for example) have to rewrite history to say that Middleton was treated so well by the press? Consider the supposedly revelatory Buzzfeed comparison.

And why have they forgotten what a tough time Camilla and Fergie had?

Some countries have a bigger problem than others - why is that, is it important to try to understand why?

"On her behaviour Megan is a piece of work " Similar behaviour to Kate who didn't get the sam vitriol.

Important to note is that the media treatment of Kate changed mostly as soon as she was married. Praising the same stuff that MM got blasted for

Oh and shouting down any criticism as "woke" is a rote learned response from the play book.

he doesn't in fact want to date young women. Apparently, they are tedious and opinionated

I think he just thinks that Meghan and other women just need to shut up and keep their opinions to themselves if they want to avoid criticism from the likes of Lawrence Fox, Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail.

Thank you @chomalungma - in a nutshell.

The problem all these collectives have in common come down to putting women back in their place. They go after the high profile ones first and use race, and class to do it but ultimately they want ALL women, of all races and classes to shut up, and sit down.

I expect that if he said he only dates under-35s, you'd say it's because older women are too opinionated.

You need to read the article about him in the ST!

He said it himself entropy...

Yes - got that - my post was in response to this:

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he doesn't in fact want to date young women. Apparently, they are tedious and opinionated

I think he just thinks that Meghan and other women just need to shut up and keep their opinions to themselves if they want to avoid criticism from the likes of Lawrence Fox, Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail.

I expect that if he said he only dates under-35s, you'd say it's because older women are too opinionated

The article in the DM says that he doesn't want to date under 35s because he thinks they are too opionated and think they are victims.

Really he doesn't want to date women who have opinions.

"On her behaviour Megan is a piece of work " Similar behaviour to Kate who didn't get the same vitriol.

How was Kate’s behaviour similar to MM?

Here's what the article says:

Fox was urged to “believe the victim” by the unnamed woman. He responded: “No, you don’t believe the victim. That’s not how it works. You listen to the victim. The victim’s evidence is examined and a jury of their peers makes that decision.”

Which is similar to what a lot of older feminists have said about the Me Too movement, incidentally.

I'd encourage you to go look at the side by side articles of the same or similar behaviour, and the different language used.

The article in the DM says that he doesn't want to date under 35s because he thinks they are too opionated and think they are victims.

I'm sure you haven't misquoted him on purpose, but there is no mention of opinionated in the articles that I have been able to find on Google.

I have paraphrased. The article I have is the ST. I'll go and get it in a bit.