Laurence Fox on Question Time

[SuckingDieselFella]

It isn't ok to try and shut anyone up with remarks about their skin colour. It doesn't matter if that skin colour is white, black or green with purple spots.

His fellow actors have been told to "denounce" him. It looks like he can wave goodbye to his career. What lovely tolerant people the ultra woke are.
www.thestage.co.uk/news/2020/laurence-fox-labelled-a-disgrace-to-industry-following-question-time-race-row/

I wonder if Laurence Fox voted Remain or Leave?

I'm in Scotland @lucascat

So explain your theory for here?

We told the tories to fuck off with their right wing shite again and again and again

@Happinessinapeartree - yes but you told the Labour Party to fuck off even further than the Tories

Labour and SNP are split only on one real issue, independence. Culturally they are very close and the SNP is the most woke party ever.

We're left to the bone up here

@lucasthecat WTH do you mean she only had one blood relative at her wedding?? What's that supposed to prove except that you said it so it meant something significant to you. She comes from a broken family - so what?? It happens all the time to white people too even the Royal Family. Who knows what nasty you grew up in hiding as you do on social network. Just get the NF tat on your knuckles and be done. At least they're honest about their prejudice!

I wish people on here would get back to the LF and Question time subject. If you want to talk in detail about the Labour Party, Rochdale etc then why not start that thread???

The thread has moved on, and I don't think there's any more to be said about Laurence Fox and Question Time. The OP hasn't complained so why are you complaining?

I thought Lawrence Fox was spot on. Throwing accusations of white privilege is just another way to close down discussion and no platform. Equity's comment branding him a disgrace is itself a disgrace. Fox went on to a panel by invitation and gave his opinion as per the remit of the show.

As for posters insisting there was no racism involved in the sex abuse scandal, am staggered at the cognitive dissonence.

I wonder if Laurence Fox voted Remain or Leave?

From the Spiked Twitter:

“Coming soon on The Brendan O’Neill Show... Laurence Fox (@LozzaFox) on the stupidity of wokeness, the brilliance of Brexit, and the importance of freedom of speech. You won’t want to miss this.”

I think that probably answers the question.

It doesn't close down discussion at all, it is a critique or someone's point. Ironically accusing others of closing down the discussion is a way of closing down the discussion.

White privilege exists, and identifying that someone may not be able to give accurate analysis of an issue because of it is not shutting down the conversation.

There is no cognitive dissonance regarding the Rothetham scandal or others just facts. The girls were not targeted because of their race, girls from the Pakistani community were abused in the same way and at the same rate.

'White privilege' isn't an accusation.

And some people still can't grasp that white privilege doesn't = privileged in general/not a victim of anything ever.

Girls from the Pakistani community were abused in the same way and at the same rate.

Exactly. 'Honour killing' and child marriage are equally abusive as CSE. It's about misogyny, simple as.

White privilege exists, and identifying that someone may not be able to give accurate analysis of an issue because of it is not shutting down the conversation So, in other words, no white person's view can be trusted as valid at all on issues relating to race because they are white. Neat. That is shutting down discussion. And prejudiced against white people. Ergo racist.

Girls from the Pakistani community were abused in the same way and at the same rate.

Absolute bullshit.

Shouting white slag at a child you and your gang have just raped is misogyny and not racist? Well, you learn something crazy every day! If it was a gang of white men raping a BAME child shouting black slag, would that be racist?

Bless;

Apparently he won't date women under 35 because they are too 'woke'
And he split with a girlfriend because she supported the Gillette advert about toxic masculinity

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7904651/Laurence-Fox-says-wouldnt-date-women-35-woke.html

*Laurence Fox has revealed he once broke up with a girlfriend because she liked a pro-#MeToo TV advert.

The actor, 41, told his ex-lover: 'Bye. Sorry I can't do this with you,' after she praised Gillette for their TV campaign on 'toxic masculinity'.

He also said he no longer dates women under 35 as they are 'too woke' and most of them are 'absolutely bonkers*

So, in other words, no white person's view can be trusted as valid at all on issues relating to race because they are white

When a white person says there is little racism in this country, then I would take their view with a massive pinch of salt..

Lizzie0869

Many people who hold racist views will see people from or who’s parents/grant parents are from Pakistan, Indian, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh as one. They don’t separate them they are p*ki’s and probably Muslim too 🙄

I disagree I think many of the men involved in the sexual abuse and rape of girls in care in Rotherham saw them as lesser and part of that is them being white and non Muslim. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t abuse Muslim girls but many would view them as being better girls/women

As many slave owners viewing white women as being more superior didn’t stop them raping slaves and having favourite slaves they were still a slave

Othering makes it easier to justify violence

To be fair in my 40s it’s highly unlikely I would have dated anyone under 35 either.

I think he was more rebelling against the current prolific policing of language and how only certain ideas and speech is allowed. Also thought his point about racism was more that the UK probably us actually one of the safest and more tolerant countries in the world no matter how much some insist otherwise. He’s just pissed off with the wokeratti dictating what can be thought and said.

Its not racist or prejudiced against white people to critique a statement that says there is little to no racism in the country as being based in white privilege.

Its entirely accurate.

Stating the we are a tolerant country (compared to many we are) is trying to shut the argument down

Really it should be how can this be further improved

But comes across as you people do stop your moaning you have it good

Enthusiasm I think the fact that they weren't Muslim was the key thing, as well as being girls. It's not only my own experience that's influencing me here; I'm involved in a project supporting Central Asian women, and the attitude towards women really is appalling.

Lizzie, as muslim girls were sexually abused, by the same men, and report having been treated in the same way as the other girls i disagree. The UK muslim woman's network also gave data to the Rotherham enquiry which backed it up.

I know they have been abused in similar ways, which is why I said that if there is any other reason why the CSE happened, it wasn't because of race but religion. But maybe not; I've heard of horrific stories from the Central Asian women the project I'm involved with has helped. It really is misogyny, which I experienced as a girl from my own F.