Laurence Fox on Question Time

[SuckingDieselFella]

It isn't ok to try and shut anyone up with remarks about their skin colour. It doesn't matter if that skin colour is white, black or green with purple spots.

His fellow actors have been told to "denounce" him. It looks like he can wave goodbye to his career. What lovely tolerant people the ultra woke are.
www.thestage.co.uk/news/2020/laurence-fox-labelled-a-disgrace-to-industry-following-question-time-race-row/

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed
"Does prejudice have the same impact in everyday life collectively for white people no"
A sweeping generalisation like this is nonsense. White people aren't a homogenous mass all sharing the same characteristics. White women know a lot about prejudice. White people who practice minority religions know plenty about it. And I'm sure white disabled people know lots about it.

You seem to think that being white means your life will be free of prejudice. You are very wrong.

OP - I can imagine a uni library won’t have it. Tbh you can find out a lot of it if you watch any of his YouTube interviews about it.

He does have some horrible views on women IMHO but it’s still a book worth reading.

Thanks, I'll check out youtube.

I have mentioned sexism

I am well aware that Jewish women and other ethic backgrounds will experience prejudice

But you have to be stupid to think that a white English women will experience the everyday prejudice that many black/Asian/dual heritage or mixed race women do

Why is there such a need to shout out white people experience prejudice to when the subject of racism is discussed

It’s exactly like when the subject of dv towards women is discussed and many have to point out that men are subjected to dv too

Why is that ?

Why can’t we just accept and discuss their experiences and accept them

Wow that 25 percent post is such a crock of shit there is direct side by side evidence that she gets much more negative press for doing exactly the same things.

Only 25 percent black? fucks sake do we have a scale? You racist.

Meant to say

Why can’t we listen and discuss and accept

Maylis “Only 25 percent black? fucks sake do we have a scale? You racist.”

Well, the scales and percentages are what identity politics folk want us to have.

malylis Shit username, by the way. What's wrong with saying 25% black? Is it worse than one quarter Chinese or one half Native American? Or do you believe race isn't biological but a 'social construct'? Let me guess, you think the same about sex. Oh sorry, I mean gender...
Sorry to disappoint you but no, you don't have a racist. Next time I'll try and be more 'woke' ok, hun?

Not at all, being able to identify your ethnicity is utterly different to saying "she's only a little bit black so can't have suffered any real racism."

The people who are most against identity politics are actually all for it when it comes to their own identity, just criticise anyone else for doing the same.

shit user name?

hahahahahah

Still a racist.

malylis

“ The people who are most against identity politics are actually all for it when it comes to their own identity, just criticise anyone else for doing the same.”

Please could you give an example?

There are infinite examples, basically all the people who complain about criticisms of privilege and fairer equality

In general, Tory and Brexit voters, Jordan Peterson fans et

maylis thanks. Just trying to figure out how it might apply to me but I really don’t think it does.

@SuckingDieselFella the most recent interview he did on the triggernometry Youtube channel is one of the best IMO.

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed "Why is there such a need to shout out white people experience prejudice to when the subject of racism is discussed "

"Why can’t we listen and discuss and accept"

Have a think about those two statements. If you can't see the contradiction, get back to me.

Your belief that only minorities experience discrimination is fuel for the far right. Various groups of white people experience plenty of it. You need to listen and discuss and accept this even though it isn't what you want to hear.

Well he said we live in a lovely tolerant country.

Which is absolutely true if you compare the UK (or most Western countries) with most of the world. Seriously, you wouldn't believe the amounts of racism/prejudice that exist in other countries, much of which is government sanctioned (try being a Christian, Jew, Atheist or Hindu in most Islamic countries).

Of course the UK is not perfect but it is a million times more tolerant than most of the world!

Really ?

Look back at the General election posts

I have been on here long enough and I hear it in rl enough to know that when a person of colour says they are subjected to everyday racism that they are pulled up and asked to prove it

I have not denied that white people are not subjected to prejudice.

Pretending not to 'see colour' is another example.

I'm very confused about this one. I have friends and relations of different nationalities and across the colour spectrum, if you will. I don't sit there thinking, "Amy is black. Amy is black. Amy is black" the whole time or "Amy's ds is mixed race" etc etc. It's reducing everyone to a small box.

I stand by my assertion that many of these liberal people are not only patronising BAME people, but also using them. And actually doing them down by sticking often outmoded labels on them and preferring them to adhere to stereotypes.

I wouldn’t call myself woke. But as a white person, I think we should be acknowledging that the people who know most about racism are BAME people.

What about white Jews? They experience huge amounts of racism and prejudice in this country (much of it institutionalised!). No "white privilege" for them! Should they just shut up because they don't fit the woke narrative?

He came across as an arrogant arsehole. White male privilege in action.

Irma I’m not white and I’m the same as you.

This whole “if you can’t see race, you can’t see racism” is mostly just cover for “you should be obsessed by race”. The endgame here is sinister.

Pretending not to see colour I think they are referring to when people claim they do not notice colour which is incredibly patronizing

Also it is bollocks (unless you actually can’t not see the person)

We all notice colour, how someone is dressed etc

Does it make you form a judgement or opinion we would all like to think not but for many of us we will at some point

“We all notice colour, how someone is dressed etc “

I never notice how anyone is dressed.

Irma neither do I, that would be very odd. But to pretend not to see colour, is actually the opposite of ideal as it completely dismisses the lived experience of our friends/family, including the racism they will have and still do encounter whether it's extreme hate crime, or the dog whistling racism as demonstrated throughout this thread. I can acknowledge both racism and the prejudice I've endured in my life.

I don't use anyone. My only 'agenda' is one of not tolerating racism (and other things, but I'm keeping in context) and I will call it out (hate that term but it fits the bill) when I see it.

Maybe you just walk around quite oblivious in general then, Autumn.