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To think that I can’t work if DH won’t do any childcare?

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Crocuses · 16/01/2020 11:40

DH is whinging about me being a SAHM, not working and not contributing my share. He keeps pointing out that SIL works so why can’t I? But he’s ignoring the fact that BIL does his share. He leaves work at his contracted finishing time 5pm and does half of the pickups. He works late on other days to give him enough flex time to be able to do half of the drop offs. He and his wife both took a week of unpaid parental leave when their youngest DC was ill. They take turns dealing with sick days. He does grocery shopping and ironing.

My DH thinks he’s so important and his company absolutely wouldn’t accept him asking for flex time or working from home or being off work, and it would affect his job security and progression. When I ask for any support he whinges that none of the other executives have to deal with childcare because they’re all so important. He finds it embarrassing to have to say “sorry I need to leave this meeting because my son needs picking up at 6pm”. He won’t even text me to say he’ll be late because it makes him look bad, and quite frankly he doesn’t want to. I’ve pointed out that if DS was with a childminder he couldn’t just be late without telling anyone, and he says but DS isn’t with a childminder, he’s with you and you’re his mother so you should just look after him, I shouldn’t have to give his mother a pickup time.

He’s never done a single night with DS because he’s so important, he has to be well slept. I broke my leg and he wouldn’t even take a day off when I went in for surgery, I had to beg an elderly neighbour to watch DC as a one off, and I had to request light anaesthesia because I couldn’t take time to rest afterwards. Even when I had food poisoning and was projective vomiting and begging him for help because I was too ill to look after the baby, he still went to work and left me.

I don’t see how I can work (especially not in the type of career job DH wants me to have) if I’m solely responsible for all pickups, drop offs, sick days, hospital appointments etc? No job is that flexible. And the bigger problem is that if I can’t work I’ll have no pension and no job for when DS grows up.

DH never takes his full holiday entitlement either, apparently they can’t spare him so they often just pay him for his missed holiday. They often phone and ask him to pop in to the office even when he’s officially on holiday. So I don’t see how I can work and cover school holiday childcare if he won’t take his holidays? And he does at least an hour of unpaid overtime every single day so I cook every meal because he isn’t home in time, I do all the grocery shopping and ironing. I don’t know how I can take on all of the family responsibilities and work too?

OP posts:
MostlyHappyMummy · 16/01/2020 12:30

How can you even bear to look at him nevermind live with him? He clearly doesn't like you at all.
Better to be a single parent surely and have some self respect again

LagunaBubbles · 16/01/2020 12:30

Plus I’m reluctant to leave and take my son from a nice home, I won’t be able to offer him that quality of life as a single mother

Because quality of life is all about a nice home? Oh please. Put up with a shit marriage, become more and more resentful and your DH becomes worse... your DS grows up and witnesses this? But that's OK because he's in a "nice house". Listen to yourself. Your DS will grow up with an unhealthy view of relationdhips. Poor wee boy. But it's all Ok because he grew up in a nice house. Hmm

hammeringinmyhead · 16/01/2020 12:30

Fuck that for a game of soldiers. Leave him to it and see how hw gets on playing the big I-am at work when it's his turn to have the kid.

InglouriousBasterd · 16/01/2020 12:31

If you were to get a job and get a childminder / nursery, would he pay half of the costs? I have a feeling he’d be insisting it came from your wages.

fedup21 · 16/01/2020 12:31

don’t see how I can work (especially not in the type of career job DH wants me to have

What career job is he expecting you to have? What is your career?

isitpossibleto · 16/01/2020 12:31

If you got really d of ‘D’ at least you’d a) not have to fit around him and pick up his shif and clean up his mess and

B - you could get some time to work extra hours/take a break/catch up on chores etc when your DS is with the pathetic excuse for a partner and father.

I had one exactly the same. They dint change

randomsabreuse · 16/01/2020 12:31

Apart from nannies, no other childcare covers sick children... and if you're unlucky there's a lot of that about- If I'd not been flexibly employed we'd have probably both lost our jobs last term if we'd tried to share all the sickness cover - DC 1 3x vomiting bugs, 1x diarrhoea so 48h exclusion from school. DC2 1x diarrhoea, snots the entire time, with/without wheezes and both had chickenpox (before DC2 could get vaccinated due to age/being too under the weather to vaccinate).

Add in that getting a job that fits within childcare and especially school wrap around (often 5pm latest pick up!) times with zero ability to work late isn't the easiest thing in the world. Commuting time is the big nightmare!

DH is supportive but his job really isn't flexible and he can't work from home (vet) so we're moving to somewhere bigger in the hope that there will be realistic wrap around childcare at schools, or enough facilities to attract an au pair and jobs that vaguely suit my skill set. Obviously he has to be up for this

Missteebeee · 16/01/2020 12:32

I’m a single parent

I don’t have any family to help me

I work as a nanny as my youngest children can come too. I’ve always worked in childcare and it’s always fitted well with my needs

DesLynamsMoustache · 16/01/2020 12:32

It amazes me how many people don't seem to realise that their children will grow up to emulate and mimic the behaviour they see every day. Your lovely little boy will see day in and day out how his father behaves to women and how he treats you and will learn that that's how you should be treated. When you get older you'll probably find them both ganging up on you, as your son will be desperate to win his approval.

Stay with someone who treats you like shit and you're teaching your child that it's OK to treat people like shit as that's what daddy does. And lo, you've created the next generation of useless men and so the cycle continues.

Monstermummymum · 16/01/2020 12:33

Your husband sounds horrid. Do you actually love him? Have you had a serious conversation about this? A Nanny may be the way to go if you can afford it and do online shopping. So much easier!

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 16/01/2020 12:33

Yabu to think you cannot work.

Yabu to stay with a man like this. Getting a job will help you should you and he separate (which would be wise eventually).

formerbabe · 16/01/2020 12:34

Lots of unfair comments to the op.

Yes, children can go into paid childcare...but shockingly, you'll have to pick them up and drop them off. This will have to work with your hours and commute. You'll also have sick days, inset days, school holidays etc to contend with. That's on top of all the housework, cooking, laundry, shopping, kids admin etc. Yes, you could work as single parents do, but you'll be running yourself ragged. Meanwhile your dh will be benefitting from you working and the extra money in the pot without any sacrifice from him.

It's outrageous.

Fwiw, I'm a sahm for school age DC and do everything in the house. When I do get a job, I'll expect my dh to take on the household stuff alongside me. He is fine with this.

woodchuck99 · 16/01/2020 12:34

No. He wants to earn that much so he’s dedicated to climbing the corporate ladder and being indispensable. At my expense.

All the more reason to not let him climb the corporate ladder at your expense. Find a childminder who is flexible, get a cleaner and go back to work.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 16/01/2020 12:34

What job did you do pre kids?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 16/01/2020 12:35

Tbh I'd be tempted to look for a sat/sun job and leave him and ds and the house ton8t over the weekends.

See how the fucker likes that

Crocuses · 16/01/2020 12:38

She doesn't have a job though so why would he need to leave a meeting early to collect their child?
On the occasions I’ve needed support he’s refused. When I went in for day surgery, when I was too ill to cope, when I had an appointment that I needed to attend. He just refused and made it clear he will never be available because his job comes first. Even when he knows I’m cooking dinner for 7pm he won’t text to say he’ll be late. If he can’t even text me to say don’t put the chicken in yet, how can he ring a childminder to say he’ll be late? Or walk out and go to collect DS?

OP posts:
woodchuck99 · 16/01/2020 12:38

Yes, children can go into paid childcare...but shockingly, you'll have to pick them up and drop them off. This will have to work with your hours and commute.

So he will have to drop the children off and she can pick them up everyday. This will mean that he doesn't need to leave work early.

You'll also have sick days, inset days, school holidays etc to contend with.

Sick days and inset days can probably be covered with OP's annual leave and hopefully he will do some once she is working. So holidays can be covered with childminders or holiday clubs in most areas.

That's on top of all the housework, cooking, laundry, shopping, kids admin etc.

Housework can be done by cleaner.

fridgegrazer · 16/01/2020 12:38

What does he say when you tell him that you will work full time if he does half the pick ups
He says I CAN’T. But that’s not an excuse for you not to work.

So what's his solution if you are both working hours which don't fit in with nursery or school pickups? Can he find one - because you have tried and can't? Surely such a big shot business person should be able to work this out? Hmm

madcatladyforever · 16/01/2020 12:38

What an arrogant piece of shit your H is. He needs a good kick up the backside. He wouldn't last very long with me.

bakewreck99 · 16/01/2020 12:39

It’s about more than just whether you work or not isn’t it? You aren’t having more kids due to lack of support. You do need to have a good think about the future

madcatladyforever · 16/01/2020 12:40

*Tbh I'd be tempted to look for a sat/sun job and leave him and ds and the house ton8t over the weekends.

See how the fucker likes that*

What an excellent idea Grin

woodchuck99 · 16/01/2020 12:40

On the occasions I’ve needed support he’s refused. When I went in for day surgery, when I was too ill to cope, when I had an appointment that I needed to attend. He just refused and made it clear he will never be available because his job comes first.

I suspect that a lot of his attitude is down to the fact that you're not working. However, if has he made it clear that he will never be available even if you get a job? If he has then you really do need to leave him because that is incredibly unreasonable.

pascalstriangle · 16/01/2020 12:41

Why are so many men like this? Especially the 'very important person' ones who are climbing the career ladder at the expense of their wives. I had one, divorced him. A million times happier. Mine wouldn't lift a finger in the house as he was so important, would never look after the children or take them out, and would make my working in my business as difficult as possible so I would give it up and continue to be his personal servant. Life is beautiful without him. There are obviously individual factors to every one's experience with this - my particular circumstances all pointed to ditching my VIP husband and I could never go back.

ScatteredMama82 · 16/01/2020 12:41

There are 2 issues here. YANBU to resent your husband's attitude. Frankly he sounds like an arse and you'd be better off without him.

However, YABU to suggest you can't possible work and have kids. I have 2 kids, and have always worked with the exception of 12 months mat leave each time. We have no family help. My parents are both dead, DHs live hundreds of miles away. I have used nurseries and after-school clubs in the past. I now use a childminder. DH isn't any help at the moment as he's military and posted away so I am dealing with it on my own. It is hard but entirely do-able.

You need to get out, make your own life, get a job and don't rely on your husband for anything!

OhTheRoses · 16/01/2020 12:42

I was a SAHM for 7 years. I did everything at home and everything re the DC. This continued when I was p/time when DC started school and they were full time. The one time I was ill dh had to hire a nanny for a week.

I think the difference was that DH left the house at 6.30am and got home after 9pm (short commute). We worked as a team and appreciated each other and I never felt I worked as hard as him. He was also happy to pay cleaner, etc.

We like each other. I also appreciated the benefits of his career: nice house, school fees, not having to work etc so went the extra mile to support him xox Also, he never ever questioned what I did or a penny of expenditure althpugh I accept we are both a bit tight:)

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