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To think that I can’t work if DH won’t do any childcare?

446 replies

Crocuses · 16/01/2020 11:40

DH is whinging about me being a SAHM, not working and not contributing my share. He keeps pointing out that SIL works so why can’t I? But he’s ignoring the fact that BIL does his share. He leaves work at his contracted finishing time 5pm and does half of the pickups. He works late on other days to give him enough flex time to be able to do half of the drop offs. He and his wife both took a week of unpaid parental leave when their youngest DC was ill. They take turns dealing with sick days. He does grocery shopping and ironing.

My DH thinks he’s so important and his company absolutely wouldn’t accept him asking for flex time or working from home or being off work, and it would affect his job security and progression. When I ask for any support he whinges that none of the other executives have to deal with childcare because they’re all so important. He finds it embarrassing to have to say “sorry I need to leave this meeting because my son needs picking up at 6pm”. He won’t even text me to say he’ll be late because it makes him look bad, and quite frankly he doesn’t want to. I’ve pointed out that if DS was with a childminder he couldn’t just be late without telling anyone, and he says but DS isn’t with a childminder, he’s with you and you’re his mother so you should just look after him, I shouldn’t have to give his mother a pickup time.

He’s never done a single night with DS because he’s so important, he has to be well slept. I broke my leg and he wouldn’t even take a day off when I went in for surgery, I had to beg an elderly neighbour to watch DC as a one off, and I had to request light anaesthesia because I couldn’t take time to rest afterwards. Even when I had food poisoning and was projective vomiting and begging him for help because I was too ill to look after the baby, he still went to work and left me.

I don’t see how I can work (especially not in the type of career job DH wants me to have) if I’m solely responsible for all pickups, drop offs, sick days, hospital appointments etc? No job is that flexible. And the bigger problem is that if I can’t work I’ll have no pension and no job for when DS grows up.

DH never takes his full holiday entitlement either, apparently they can’t spare him so they often just pay him for his missed holiday. They often phone and ask him to pop in to the office even when he’s officially on holiday. So I don’t see how I can work and cover school holiday childcare if he won’t take his holidays? And he does at least an hour of unpaid overtime every single day so I cook every meal because he isn’t home in time, I do all the grocery shopping and ironing. I don’t know how I can take on all of the family responsibilities and work too?

OP posts:
woodchuck99 · 17/01/2020 10:43

Lots of posters advising to get a job, but that's the husband's wish, not the wish of the OP. Think about what YOU want, OP, and what is best for your DC.

I don't agree that people should only work if they want to and that their partner should suck it up and pay all the bills. Being a SAHP should be a mutual decision. The problem here is that it doesn't sound as if the DH will do his fair share if OP works. That doesn't mean that OP should not try to get a job though. She should get one anyway as being financially dependent on someone like her DH is a very bad idea.

stophuggingme · 17/01/2020 10:49

When I was a SAHP my ex treated me like shit
So I left him
I am still a SAHP but I have my own lovely house, am able to take care of my children and support is just with tax credits and benefits etc. I am planning to go back to work when my son is three in November and my daughter and my oldest son will both be in school from that September.
I would like to go back to my old job which paid very well but I am worried how I will without very long days and other people caring for my children before and after school as well as nursery.
So I will probably have to start small and try to build up as I don’t have lots of support nearby.

But honesty I can tell you that not pretending to be in a team or a family with a total cockwomble who said one thing about valuing my sacrifice, looking after us all and meant another is so much better

IdontGetIt29 · 17/01/2020 11:14

I feel trapped. I don’t want to leave and take DS to the sort of house I could afford, and put him in the care of strangers, when he could stay here and have a nice lifestyle and be mostly looked after by a parent, as long as I put up with DH whinging about me not contributing. Plus DH will get unsupervised contact and he’s not a kind and patient parent, I often intervene when he’s yelling and making DS cry. I can’t intervene if I’m not there

You can make any house lovely, as long as its a roof over your head its not important how nice it is really. But you can make it nice in time anyway

They are strangers at first but your child will soon get to know a childminder or childcare services etc

When will he even see DS seems as hes so busy now? How old is DS?

If you do not leave your son will grow up watching this and think this is how families are and how you treat your wife. Do you want to see this repeat itself with your child in 25 years time or so?

Its a scary thought leaving but you need to. Benefits are in place to help people get back on their feet, that is always an option for you if you go as a single mum ( your a single mum anyway, what help do youbget from him?? )

Benefits would enable you to work fulltime if you wished as they help towards your childcare. Also seems as he works so much you would get a healthy amount of CMS! And before anyone starts flaming me for suggesting benefits, they are there to help people who need it

A nice home and nice things do not make the life nice for kids, happy parents who love you and spend time with you do that.

Nearly everyone is saying the same thing, leave him

FabbyChix · 17/01/2020 11:31

Work weekends then when he isn’t working

IntermittentParps · 17/01/2020 11:38

Type up an invoice this afternoon childcare... cleaning... meal prep... etc
I’ve tried that. He said don’t be ridiculous I’m not paying you for looking after your own child.
The point isn't for him to pay you, it's for him to see how much money he saves by having you doing all this instead of paying for childcare, a cleaner etc.
Does he not realise that he wouldn't be able to do his all-important, all-consuming job if HE had to look after DC, do the cooking, cleaning etc?

Bluntness100 · 17/01/2020 12:23

The whole invoice thing is ludicrous.

And what does he then do, type one up for housing, bills, food, clothes, entertainment, transport etc? Because likely his will be way higher.

Seriously some people need to get a grip.

Thurmanmurman · 17/01/2020 12:23

This is what I'd do. Get a nanny, go back to work save some money and then LTB. He sounds absolutely hateful OP.

LaurieMarlow · 17/01/2020 12:29

You’re going to have to find a way to get back to work OP.

Being financially dependent on this man seems like a terrible idea.

Mamia15 · 17/01/2020 12:41

You'll have more time if you're not running around after H and doing his chores.

MrsSiriusBlack1 · 17/01/2020 12:44

He sounds like a total arsehole, please find a way not to be dependant on him for your own sake

TheReef · 17/01/2020 12:47

It's less about what the house looks like OP, but more about what it's like when you close the door after stepping indoors. I'd rather live in a small, modest house full of love and laughter than a big lovely house full of angst and stress

MsTSwift · 17/01/2020 12:48

It’s a simple point Bluntness which needs making to the husband. It’s not that the sahm is seeking payment but if she were not undertaking the role as parents they will have to pay someone to do so. Families have a choice either sacrifice a salary and do it yourself or both work and buy in labour.

What is not possible is doing both Hmm

BrendasUmbrella · 17/01/2020 12:49

Work weekends then when he isn’t working

She said he isn't happy with her having a McJob. He wants her back in a full on career.

Going by how she has presented him so far, I have a feeling that if she announced an evening or weekend job, he'd ask her how she intended to organize the childcare...

DICarter1 · 17/01/2020 12:50

It seems that he doesn’t care at all about what you’re doing. And it doesn’t sound like he’d be interested in doing anything he didn’t want to do if you worked. He sounds lazy, selfish and disinterested.

Mamia15 · 17/01/2020 12:50

And your DC will be modelling future relationships on what he is seeing and hearing - your H sounds like a nasty bullying arsehole.

IntermittentParps · 17/01/2020 12:58

It’s a simple point Bluntness which needs making to the husband. It’s not that the sahm is seeking payment but if she were not undertaking the role as parents they will have to pay someone to do so.
Exactly.

LannieDuck · 17/01/2020 16:01

The invoice argument does make sense, but only where the WOHP is financially abusive or doesn't value the SAHP's contribution.

e.g. WOHP says "I pay all the bills, so all the money is mine to do with as I please", so the SAHP says "I do your share of the childcare and housework. If you want me to continue, you need to pay me for it." WOHP says "Fine, but I cover your share of the bills. You'll need to start paying half."

Then the WOHP hands over money to the SAHP for half of their housekeeping and childcare invoice, and SAHP uses it to pay half their bills. The bills are now being paid by both parents, and both parents have access to their own income.

...and of course the invoice only covers 9-5. SAHP 'clocks off' then, so everything outside that should be shared.

HeIenaDove · 17/01/2020 16:14

"it’s the dad who is a twat here, stop saying OP just needs to go back to work and cope"

Why are people comparing this with being a single parent. If pps think its okay for her to work like she is one i take it its okay to go the whole hog and act like one ............including dating?! Im sure her DH and pps here wont mind as y"all insisting on her acting like she is single!!

woodchuck99 · 17/01/2020 16:17

Then the WOHP hands over money to the SAHP for half of their housekeeping and childcare invoice, and SAHP uses it to pay half their bills. The bills are now being paid by both parents, and both parents have access to their own income.

That would only work if the cost of half childcare and housework is equal to half their household bills. Considering OP has one child, it probably wouldn't be half. Best not to go there

woodchuck99 · 17/01/2020 16:21

Why are people comparing this with being a single parent. If pps think its okay for her to work like she is one i take it its okay to go the whole hog and act like one ............including dating?! Im sure her DH and pps here wont mind as y"all insisting on her acting like she is single!!

People are just making the point that the fact her DH won't to do any childcare doesn't mean she can't work. That is the question after all. Obviously if she works he should contribute but if he doesn't it doesn't mean she shouldn't get a job. For her own sake she should work and the question to consider if he doesn't contribute is whether she should leave.

okiedokieme · 17/01/2020 16:21

It sounds like my life at the age, I stayed home .... but it caused resentment. I worked pt once kids were in school, resentment still despite the fact there was no wrap around care that would take dd with asd .... anyway he left me eventually still complaining I wasn't career oriented Confused but I put my kids first! I strongly advise that you do put plans in place to me economically independent, it's too familiar, red flags, he doesn't care about you just thinking about buying extra material things, long term it might not be good

HeIenaDove · 17/01/2020 17:52

One of the reasons im child free by choice is because of the attitudes of other women as well as men.

Aptly demonstrated here.

Coyoacan · 17/01/2020 18:34

when he could stay here and have a nice lifestyle and be mostly looked after by a parent, as long as I put up with DH whinging about me not contributing. Plus DH will get unsupervised contact and he’s not a kind and patient parent

OP, you have a son to raise. That means you have to make every effort to raise and a happy person who makes a positive contribution to the lives of the people around them. Staying with this man means you will probably raise his clone who will also make some woman extremely miserable.

I doubt that your husband will want to take over a lot of the childcare.

It is understandable that you are resisting a change of circumstances, we all do. But start planning, know what your goal is. There are no prizes handed out to martyrs.

LannieDuck · 17/01/2020 20:04

That would only work if the cost of half childcare and housework is equal to half their household bills.

Yes, agreed.

Weenurse · 17/01/2020 21:31

I also think you need a job as his resentment will only grow.