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To think that I can’t work if DH won’t do any childcare?

446 replies

Crocuses · 16/01/2020 11:40

DH is whinging about me being a SAHM, not working and not contributing my share. He keeps pointing out that SIL works so why can’t I? But he’s ignoring the fact that BIL does his share. He leaves work at his contracted finishing time 5pm and does half of the pickups. He works late on other days to give him enough flex time to be able to do half of the drop offs. He and his wife both took a week of unpaid parental leave when their youngest DC was ill. They take turns dealing with sick days. He does grocery shopping and ironing.

My DH thinks he’s so important and his company absolutely wouldn’t accept him asking for flex time or working from home or being off work, and it would affect his job security and progression. When I ask for any support he whinges that none of the other executives have to deal with childcare because they’re all so important. He finds it embarrassing to have to say “sorry I need to leave this meeting because my son needs picking up at 6pm”. He won’t even text me to say he’ll be late because it makes him look bad, and quite frankly he doesn’t want to. I’ve pointed out that if DS was with a childminder he couldn’t just be late without telling anyone, and he says but DS isn’t with a childminder, he’s with you and you’re his mother so you should just look after him, I shouldn’t have to give his mother a pickup time.

He’s never done a single night with DS because he’s so important, he has to be well slept. I broke my leg and he wouldn’t even take a day off when I went in for surgery, I had to beg an elderly neighbour to watch DC as a one off, and I had to request light anaesthesia because I couldn’t take time to rest afterwards. Even when I had food poisoning and was projective vomiting and begging him for help because I was too ill to look after the baby, he still went to work and left me.

I don’t see how I can work (especially not in the type of career job DH wants me to have) if I’m solely responsible for all pickups, drop offs, sick days, hospital appointments etc? No job is that flexible. And the bigger problem is that if I can’t work I’ll have no pension and no job for when DS grows up.

DH never takes his full holiday entitlement either, apparently they can’t spare him so they often just pay him for his missed holiday. They often phone and ask him to pop in to the office even when he’s officially on holiday. So I don’t see how I can work and cover school holiday childcare if he won’t take his holidays? And he does at least an hour of unpaid overtime every single day so I cook every meal because he isn’t home in time, I do all the grocery shopping and ironing. I don’t know how I can take on all of the family responsibilities and work too?

OP posts:
stophuggingme · 16/01/2020 12:18

He either accepts that if you go back to work it will impact on him and makes those adjustments for the children THAT ARE HIS RESPONSIBILITY AS MUCH AS YOURS . This includes childcare costs, breakfast snd after school clubs, appointments, hobbies etc. And sopping, cooking, housework blah blah blah.

Or he shuts the fuck up and values your role and contribution to the running of the family and bringing up of the children.

Anything else is untenable for the practical side of things or indeed your future as a couple.

drspouse · 16/01/2020 12:19

Is quality of life having things?
Or is it growing up seeing your mother respected by your father?

Grumbley · 16/01/2020 12:19

You can work without any support, my DH is away with work more than he is home and I work full time and use a nursery- if your job has set hours it's not impossible, bloody exhausting though.

However I don't think thats the real issue, he is an arse who has no respect for you and this is just a manifestation of that. Do you really want to be with someone like him?

Dontunderestimateme · 16/01/2020 12:20

I think it is very important that you find a way to get a job. Your DH does not sound like someone you can rely on to support you.

Changeembrace · 16/01/2020 12:20

@eminencegrise

The op says her dh complains when he has to leave a meeting early to collect their child

usernamerisnotavailable · 16/01/2020 12:21

Get a job. Thousands of mums do. And manage. You'll have

Self respect
Financial security
An out if you decide to leave your nobhead of a DH

Bluntness100 · 16/01/2020 12:22

The vast majority of people both manage to work

Eighty percent of mothers now work. And part of that eighty percent will be a large amount of single mothers. It's clearly possible, especially with one child.

No one needs to leave work early routinely or do all drop offs and pick ups, two income families are the norm, not the exception.

I also think the op is either making excuses as she doesn't want to work, or she's in a country where there is no childcare available.

snappycamper · 16/01/2020 12:23

If I’m going to be a single parent then why am I bothering to stay married to him!

My thoughts exactly. What a sexist, chauvinist arsehole. I couldn't love a man like that.

Golfcart · 16/01/2020 12:23

You don't have to leave him or leave your home with DS - see a solicitor and find out what you could have in a divorce.

Yestermost · 16/01/2020 12:23

I would prefer to be skint and single than living with a useless sexist twat. He will get worse as he ages.

DesLynamsMoustache · 16/01/2020 12:24

It's not a nice home though, is it? It's a home where his father doesn't give a shit about his mother. No matter how big your garden is or how many bedrooms you have, the fundamental fact is that he will grow up seeing his father's way of valuing women as how to behave.

PPopsicle · 16/01/2020 12:24

For gods sake
So many people missing the point here
THE DAD HAS NEVER HELPED OUT OVERNIGHT
THE DAD DIDNT HELP WHEN OP HAD SURGERY
THE DAD DIDNT HELP WHEN OP WAS ILL

it’s the dad who is a twat here, stop saying OP just needs to go back to work and cope

WillingSpringTime · 16/01/2020 12:24

God he sounds awful. I couldn't stay with someone who had such a high opinion of themselves compared to their partner.

On the job front, I think it depends a lot on the company you work for. Where I work, they are extremely flexible with hours and working patterns to suit childcare needs, emergency's, drs appointments etc. You just need to find the right place.

The best option would be to get a job and not be financially reliant on this man. He needs to do his fair share and if he refuses, I would honestly leave him. Why be with him if he can't be bothered to look after his own child once in a while or help when you are poorly?!

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 16/01/2020 12:25

"If I’m going to be a single parent then why am I bothering to stay married to him!"

A VERY good question - I wouldn't bother.
Fuck him off - he's a loser.

As for you not "contributing your share" I suggest you cost out the amount it would take to cover your hours as nanny, cook, cleaner etc. and tell him that you ARE fucking "contributing your share" but you soon won't be because you're not putting up with his bullshit any more.

Then leave him. He will have to pay you child support, especially as he's So Important, and Appearances Matter So Much to him - so you will have an income. And guess what! He'll have to get someone else to do the other stuff, possibly by paying them - he'll find out.

Really can't see why you'd stay with this wanker.

IntermittentParps · 16/01/2020 12:25

If I’m going to be a single parent then why am I bothering to stay married to him!
I couldn't have put it better myself.

I’m reluctant to leave and take my son from a nice home, I won’t be able to offer him that quality of life as a single mother.
You will offer him a home where he doesn't have a male 'role model' showing him how to be a male chauvinist.

MoonbeamsAndCaterpillars · 16/01/2020 12:26

Yanbu. He is being a fucking idiot.

IntermittentParps · 16/01/2020 12:26

As for you not "contributing your share" I suggest you cost out the amount it would take to cover your hours as nanny, cook, cleaner etc. and tell him that you ARE fucking "contributing your share" but you soon won't be because you're not putting up with his bullshit any more
And this.

eminencegrise · 16/01/2020 12:26

Yes, Change, the man refused to look after their child when his wife had to have surgery to reduce a leg fracture Hmm.*

Plus I’m reluctant to leave and take my son from a nice home, I won’t be able to offer him that quality of life as a single mother.

Not a really nice home with a father who CBAd with his own child.

CmdrCressidaDuck · 16/01/2020 12:27

Your health is already being affected by his arseholery and lack of care. You didn't get proper care and rest after surgery because he's such a fucking selfish dicksmack! How is that OK with you, even a little tiny bit? I honestly can't find words bad enough for him. He deserves all the four-letter words in the world, the complete fuckstick.

He is also not that important. Nobody is. I don't care if he's a world-renowned neurosurgeon who has pioneered blah blah blah, they can and would cope if he fell under a bus. What he's really saying is that his own ego is a hell of a lot more important to him than you and his child.

I think you will have to leave. Seriously, a nice home and quality of life is not for a second worth staying for. A child would a million times rather have a happy but less well-off home than live in a tense, miserable palace.

woodchuck99 · 16/01/2020 12:27

The op says her dh complains when he has to leave a meeting early to collect their child

She doesn't have a job though so why would he need to leave a meeting early to collect their child?

Doggodogington · 16/01/2020 12:28

Honestly, if I were you I would try and make this work. He can pay half on the childcare from and also half on getting a cleaner seeing as I doubt he’ll be doing half of the household chores. SAHP are often seen as being less than their working partner even though what they are doing is enabling that partner to go out and work without worrying about anything house or child related. Get a job, in the school hols he’ll have to use his leave to help cover the childcare.

ToastandCheese · 16/01/2020 12:28

Your DH is a dick.

He could do all these things but doesn’t want to. Think about the role he’s going to be for your DS.

Frenchw1fe · 16/01/2020 12:28

Get up early one Sunday morning and leave a prepared note telling him dc is his for 4 days and leave.
He's an adult and a father he'll learn very fast.

Crocuses · 16/01/2020 12:29

I can't believe he went work when you were ill/had surgery
He said well I don’t need to be off, Beryl will have DS. Relying on a 75yo with arthritis to look after his child rather than take a day off himself. He sees being off work as a failure and letting people down.

What does he say when you tell him that you will work full time if he does half the pick ups
He says I CAN’T. But that’s not an excuse for you not to work. So he can’t be flexible but I have to be?

Whatever you do, do not have more children with this arsehole
The original plan was to have two children but I’ve refused to have a second because of his lack of support with the first.

I guess he's earning enough to employ a nanny?
No. He wants to earn that much so he’s dedicated to climbing the corporate ladder and being indispensable. At my expense.

OP posts:
WildChristmas · 16/01/2020 12:29

Yanbu
Single mothers do work, but it’s really tough!

I threw in my career as DS being loaded onto to childminders and care all the time was just too much. I also had an ‘important’ job and being single, it was a nightmare. I was expected to attend 7am meetings or evening ones and weekends at the drop of the hat. And my area was full of parents and we all struggled.

I got low paid part time jobs and just was a mother and had a social life instead. It’s a trade off.

Your DH is being entitled and selfish. If he’s not prepared to budge from what he wants, why should you?