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AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

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Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
tanstaafl · 16/01/2020 13:13

Hi OP.
Great text.

You must make sure on the next trip (tomorrow?) that you and DD leave bang on 6pm.

Don’t wait 5mins ‘just in case’ and don’t be late leaving and CF’s dd turns up at 6.05pm.

Once it happens that 6pm didn’t really mean 6pm you’re making a rod for your own back all over again.

KidCaneGoat · 16/01/2020 13:21

Great text.

YasssKween · 16/01/2020 13:33

Perfect text well done OP!

Instead of texting speak to this woman. You are a stay at home mum she works full time.

Ridiculous. As if that has any bearing on the situation whatsoever 😂 OP has done two years solid of this arrangement, she's earned the right to correspond about it through text if she wants to! And I won't be a SAHM so no vested interest other than people treating others as equals with equally valuable time.

OP obviously too nice sometimes (sorry OP!) and it's hard to confront things like this with CFs in person for some people.

Plus texts are easier if you're working full time anyway, as you can call the texted back at a time convenient, whereas you might be unable to receive a call due to work commitments.

Beautiful3 · 16/01/2020 13:37

Perfect text.

Blondebakingmumma · 16/01/2020 13:54

👏👏👏

gamerchick · 16/01/2020 14:05

Ah perfect text OP, brought a tear to me eye Grin

This is the hardest part, you'll find it a lot easier to say no in future. It's just doing it the first time that smarts a bit.

TechnicalSergeantGarp · 16/01/2020 14:17

Noice.

Ayemama · 16/01/2020 14:43

Perfect reply

BottleOfJameson · 16/01/2020 15:31

Hi, just in case it wasn't clear yesterday; I'm happy to continue doing you a favour by taking Y to and from club on Fridays, but I can no longer pick her up from yours. She needs to be at mine for 6pm as that's when I'll be leaving from now on. If she's not here I'll assume she's not going. If this doesn't suit you anymore you'll have to make other arrangements. Take care.

Perfect text. Doesn't sound like she's a friend you'll miss. I'll never understand the brass neck of people like that.

Travis1 · 16/01/2020 15:41

Glad you were straight with her. Here's to a slightly easier Friday for you

BumblePan · 16/01/2020 16:04

Well done OP! I am proud of you. You have done the right thing for you.

purplecorkheart · 16/01/2020 16:19

Well done OP. Make sure you leave at the time you say you. Don't be surprised if you get a text saying they forgot something and had to go back or the dc has a sore leg etc.

Just reply that you will be at your house till six and will be gone after that.

Bayleaf25 · 16/01/2020 16:20

@Whiskeychaser just a thought but is your friends DH around, does he drive? If so why can’t he do the lifts at least every other week? Getting home for 6pm in a Friday isn’t that hard. Even if he works away surely he can adjust his hours to be home one evening for 6pm?

Apologies if I’ve missed that she’s a single mum.

billy1966 · 16/01/2020 16:28

OP, great text.

The "not on" statement is so rude as to be unbelievable, considering how kind you have been.

She's certainly not your friend.

Personally, I wouldn't want her in my car after her rudeness, but I have a very low threshold for it.

I agree with the other poster's, be very careful re your DD being imposed upon earlier than she wants t

foodandwine89 · 16/01/2020 16:56

Great text. I'm all for helping others and I understand being worried about not having many friends, but she is not your friend. She genuinely isn't and having someone take advantage of you like that erodes your self esteem over time. You are a disabled mum with family responsibilities. Why do you think her time is more precious than yours? Why is her time more important than your DD's interest to have a calmer mother around her?

Whiskeychaser · 16/01/2020 17:05

Been out most of the day with appointments, etc, will read through what I've missed and then update.

OP posts:
Ifeelinclined · 16/01/2020 17:18

So no response to your text yet?

BumbleBeee69 · 16/01/2020 17:23

Good on you OP.. I loathe piss takers ..Stand your ground Flowers

QueenofallIsee · 16/01/2020 17:28

If she actually said that it’s ‘not on’ I would cut all the favours off. Saying that shows she has no respect for you whatsoever

Friedspamfritters · 16/01/2020 17:30

I genuinely don't understand people who are so entitled does she really think everyone else just exists to make her life easier for her.

coconuttelegraph · 16/01/2020 17:43

I hope you've stuck to your guns and she's realised that she's being a CF

TabbyMumz · 16/01/2020 17:48

Why on earth havent you taken it in turns over the years, you fo kne week and her the next?

JulietTango · 16/01/2020 17:57

The other mum doesn't drive

Whiskeychaser · 16/01/2020 18:06

Thanks for all the supportive comments.

I think she's pissed off as I've now had a text saying not to worry her dd can get a cab there in the time it takes to walk to mine, so she'll do that.
I simply texted back immediately:

ok, Smile thanks for letting me know.

Not heard back.

OP posts:
andthentherewasme · 16/01/2020 18:08

Good response! Don't back down...