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AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

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Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
BunnytheBlueWhale · 17/01/2020 22:32

Yes I also thought she could have got you a drink

Billyeyelash · 17/01/2020 22:32

Well now we need what happens next Friday.
Can we ensure there's enough pigs in blankets?

Confuddledtown · 17/01/2020 22:32

This has been such a satisfying thread.

NoWeAreNotNearlyThereYet · 17/01/2020 22:32

She's got some neck. She wanted you to give them a lift home and didn't even have the good manners or grace to buy you a coffee as a thank you?

Lulualla · 17/01/2020 22:32

You probably should have taken the opportunity to sort it face to face. Your main reason for pussyfooting originally was that you wanted to save the friendship, but this thing is now hanging there.
You've done nothing wrong, and I wouldn't have been as nice as you were, but you wanted to maintain the relationship so it would be best to have a wee chat about it. Nothing wrong with pointing out that yes, you're a SAHM, but you still have commitments and you dont get home until 5pm on fridays, so you really need that extra 15 minutes. You're not doing it to make her life harder, but its untenable to continue the arrangement as is.

Whiskeychaser · 17/01/2020 22:33

Now I'm wondering what will happen next week, and how stubborn she is. Will she pay for her dd to go by taxi again, will she expect me to pick them up (ie, service as usual), or will she admit that she was wrong and send her to my house.

I'm sticking with my new routine as I found it much less stressful.

If she comes to my house she's welcome to a lift there, but if not I'm happy to take her home.

OP posts:
LaurieFairyCake · 17/01/2020 22:33

Yeah, the 'thanks for the lift' is proper chagrin. She knows she's in the wrong.

Whiskeychaser · 17/01/2020 22:34

If she does the taxi thing again I'm actually going suggest she can take my dd too so I can have a break from it.

OP posts:
BercowsFlamingoFlownSouth · 17/01/2020 22:34

I have a bottle of gin I'm willing to donate to the thread stash. And chocolate biscuits left over from Christmas. I could make cookies or cupcakes. This has been great and I'm happy I can go to sleep now. Well done OP!

frazzledasarock · 17/01/2020 22:34

I don’t drive. I was a single parent to two for years and used public transport a lot, sometimes it was shit, but that’s my problem. I do not understand how so many people on MN know people in RL who feel entitled to use other people for their cars!

My DC are used to taking public transport or walking everywhere, I’ve only ever once asked for help from a school mum, I had slapped cheek disease and was really really sick, the mum took my dc to and from school for me whilst I recovered. I paid the favour back tho and never considered it something either I or my child was entitled to. I’m still bloody greatful for her kindness and it happened many years ago.

GreenTulips · 17/01/2020 22:35

we got up to leave and they followed us to my car and waited for me to unlock it

I would’ve turned round at the door and said ‘great catch up! See you soon’ and pegged it!

Or even ‘sorry I’m only going as far as my house, you’ll be ok to walk home from there won’t you?’

SandAndSea · 17/01/2020 22:35

Oo, good update. Sounds like she's playing on the tiredness etc for sympathy. Very cheeky of her not to buy you a coffee - to me, that would be normal with all that you've done for her.

littlejalapeno · 17/01/2020 22:36

She sounds really toxic OP

CakeandCustard28 · 17/01/2020 22:38

When you dropped them off you should of joked and said “that’ll be £5 please.” Would of loved to have seen their reaction to that one. Grin
Well done OP for standing your ground!

supercee · 17/01/2020 22:42

Should've just driven back straight to your house, no passing Go and let her go home from there! Not even a coffee to say thanks.

WhatsTheLatest · 17/01/2020 22:46

If you do ask her to take your dd too in the taxi, she will expect you to pay half(despite not offering you a penny for 2 years). How will you respond to that?

2018SoFarSoGreat · 17/01/2020 22:49

well done, OP. You did not have to broach the subject - she should have, but as a CF she did not feel the responsibility of a normal human being.

Now you stick to this. No matter what.

Go have wine!

FrenchBoule · 17/01/2020 22:51

OP, your “friend” is a Cheeky Fucker and a very rude one.
You are the one doing her a favour, not the other way round.

I had a lift to work for some time when I was learning to drive and some time after that ( mutual agreement that suited both of us).

I made sure I was on time to not to inconvenience the driver and I paid for it ( although he said it’s not needed).
The money I gave him was enough to cover the fuel expenses and nearly the same what I would have paid for the public transport ( that if there was any at the time required).When our arrangement came to an end I thanked the guy profusely.

Anyway, the point is... if somebody does you a favour you don’t take a piss and this is what your “friend” is doing.

If you cock up due to whatever( bad day at work/feeling crap) you apologise and move on.

If she really cared about her DD getting a lift and being worried about her walking in the dark to yours, she should have moved her arse and accompany her DD to your door to be at yours without making you late

Zero manners and great expectationsAngry

messolini9 · 17/01/2020 22:55

If you do ask her to take your dd too in the taxi, she will expect you to pay half(despite not offering you a penny for 2 years). How will you respond to that?

Ooooh good point!

OP would have to say she expects half the cost of the return journey, including wear & tear, so that's 45p/mile over a 20 mile round trip (?) divided by 2 = £4.50.
Then decide if it's worth paying that to have the early part of Friday eve at home without having to rush to the club.

'Friend' won't get it though, 'cos 'friend' can only view the situation through the blinkers of her own ego.

PepsiLola · 17/01/2020 22:56

How much would a taxi be setting her back? Probably why she had a face like thunder

RuggerHug · 17/01/2020 22:58

Fair play OP. Although if she does the same next week and she might follow you out I'd be sure to mention how you're heading to your dear elderly Aunt's straight after club to drop off something, you won't get home until late yourself, so much to do yadda yadda. Or more politely drive to your house and no further with a definite 'well good night' so they don't come in.

MrsP2015 · 17/01/2020 23:00

I think you've done well to stick to going at 6pm regardless and to be kind enough to give the lift home as you said you would.

I would have had to have said something though like, 'so you got a taxi in the end then?' or 'oh would you like a lift back, that's fine' 🤣

You've stuck to your boundary and your word though so well done- especially for being the better person and taking them home. I wouldn't have

ellendegeneres · 17/01/2020 23:01

This is one cheeky bitch. I’d have had to have asked where their cab was collecting them from when they came outside.

I don’t know where she has the bollocks from to treat you like this, I really don’t. I’d not be happy in the slightest

Mumtotwo82 · 17/01/2020 23:09

Good on you op sounds like you are sticking to your new year's resolution. She might not like it but if she is a friend you think is worth keeping she will think of all you do for her. It would be nice of her to offer your dd a lift rather than you ask, but you asking is a good reminder to her that friendship is give and take. I hope she sees what a good friend you are and respects you're not a walk over. If she doesn't than its her loss.

Catmaiden · 17/01/2020 23:10

Well done for leaving at 6, Op!
Did you just drive home to your house, or did you drive past your house, take them home then drive back to your place?