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Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

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TheMustressMhor · 12/01/2020 10:15

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

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Soffy · 13/01/2020 08:09

The U.S are in no position to throw accusations of racism around whilst they have Trump in power Hmm

phpolly · 13/01/2020 08:09

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AtillatheHun · 13/01/2020 08:09

As a pp has said, this can’t possibly (genuinely) be about privacy - she has courted publicity long before Harry came on the scene. The “private” thank you at Canada house? The strategy at round thre birth announcement and baptism was I think more likely to have been curated by her PR advisors to generate even greater interest in people who probably wouldn’t have cared much - add the holdback and secrecy and they created demand. They (she?) have made some terrible mistakes in a very short time - leaving London for a house under the flight path in the suburbs with no friends nearby and under the watchful eye of his family (& spending public millions to do so) being chief amongst them - either a massive mistake which isolated a woman possibly suffering with some baby blues - or alternatively a manipulative move by a narc to remove Harry from his friends and brother to suit her aims. Who bloody knows.

OVienna · 13/01/2020 08:10

Duchess it seriously is. I went to a fancy university and the crap coming out of people's mouths on the alumnae groups is unbelievable.

Also: When it comes down to it Americans believe that their country is the greatest place on earth. That was the main reason I didn't think she'd settle here. I was optimistic I might be wrong because she had lived in Canada as an adult. But I have not met many other Americans happy to settle outside the US for good.

SouthWestmom · 13/01/2020 08:13

I think that unfortunately the choices they made (presumably as a couple) have largely reflected on her.

Walking alone to meet PC at the wedding - could not have been just her decision but highlighted how different it was from the norm, served to highlight her lack of functioning family.

Choosing to fudge the birth announcement - she's the focus as the pregnant one

Etc

DarkOceanWater · 13/01/2020 08:15

m.youtube.com/watch?v=VpeuUSUoKGI

This is pretty interesting- and from a while back. The inescapable fact is Harry has completely changed since he has been in this relationship. Whether he simply now has the confidence to be himself or whether he is being influenced by his wife we will never really know.

Meghan holds all the power in this situation and the RF know this. It will be interesting to see what they do next.

Planeplane · 13/01/2020 08:16

she knew Africa was his dream, and she seemingly entertained that idea (maybe even suggested it) to bring the notion of leaving the UK into play.

Yeah, I agree with this. He seemed genuinely excited by the possibility of actually moving to Africa. Would have been such a good move too. Clearly she never had any intention at all. I imagine he thinks that once they're free to do what they want they can visit more often or do more work there...I'm sure he'll soon find they are far too busy with her work.

I'm actually pretty offended by this idea that this country is deeply racist. That people on the whole haven't taken to Meghan is not because of her race. I wasn't sure about her from the start because I looked at the Tig and found it intensely irritating. Can't stand insta quotes and sexy yoga poses. I didn't like the way she wrote. I feel the same way about a lot of famous people.

AtillatheHun · 13/01/2020 08:18

I wonder if any of them will dare suggest he lets her stay there alone? The baby is only a brutish citizen isn’t he? Whereas Meghan isn’t yet. On that pure immigration point with Archie, I actually think they have a stronger hand than is immediately apparent

MissEliza · 13/01/2020 08:18

The PR woman who used to work with MM but got dropped without explanation popped up in the MOS yesterday. She said that MM never showed in any interest in Britain or its way of life in all the time she knew her. Thus was my gut feeling as well. Instead of taking time to settle in and get to know her new adopted home country, she seemed to crave a global role. She was never really invested in being a Brit.

RatherBeFlying · 13/01/2020 08:18

Now threatening the Queen with some sort of "Tell All" interview if she doesn't get what she wants? Pardon? What appalling behaviour.

Nothing justifies this.

PineappleDanish · 13/01/2020 08:19

Forgive my ignorance... but are Canada and the US really that different, culturally speaking? I have never been to Canada, have visited the States though and don't ever perceive much of a difference. I know that's probably really offensive to Canadians but I see it a bit like Ireland the the UK - different countries but same language and culturally fairly similar. Differences yes, but far more in common.

MissEliza · 13/01/2020 08:19

I agree nothing justifies such low behaviour. What have Charles or the Queen done wrong here to deserve threats of embarrassent?

Rhubarbisevil · 13/01/2020 08:23

I think they will get their “freedom” and a hefty Royal Retainer in return for a watertight NDA, aka shut up and fck off.

katiegoestoaldi · 13/01/2020 08:23

Paul Burrell now on Good Morning Britain

Rhubarbisevil · 13/01/2020 08:24

He must be loving this!

MrsBrentford · 13/01/2020 08:24

Thank the lord! Paul Burrell has arrived.

DeeZastris · 13/01/2020 08:25

If I was the queen I would strip them of the Sussex title and give them another one (one that the RF have copyrighted). 😂 still royal but reflect the fact they don’t wish to be senior royals.

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 08:26

Pineapple the UK and Ireland are very different culturally, so if that corresponds to the US and Canada then yes, I would say there are huge differences.

Bunnybigears · 13/01/2020 08:28

Do you think maybe Meghan was 'sent' back to Canada so the family had time to talk to Harry alone?

ElspethFlashman · 13/01/2020 08:29

Also this whole "forced out by bullying William" line theyve decided to leak today is just pathetic.

William may be grumpy on occasion but nobody believes he's a bully or that he doesn't want Harry beside him.

It's really petty and snide.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 13/01/2020 08:29

Thank the lord! Paul Burrell has arrived
😂 pmsl

AtillatheHun · 13/01/2020 08:33

The negotiations are tricky because she’s shown her hand early - she’s prepared to trash them all on Oprah / to the highest bidder if she doesn’t get what she wants (or not really concerned about privacy). The public on the other hand will rightly be furious with continued privilege at all costs without any corresponding meaningful service. She won’t sign an NDA because (much like any Mc partlin’s nearly ex wife) she can earn money without needing to sign it and will not accept silence when they can say what they like. Really tough. I don’t think it’s outrageous to suggest that this woman could have destroyed a thousands’ year old institution within 2 years.

AtillatheHun · 13/01/2020 08:34

@ElspethFlashman “William is a bully” = William has been pointing out how the job is done and also pointed out that marrying in haste might not be the thing to do. And look! He was right!

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 13/01/2020 08:36

To the pp who recommended celebitchy

I think this is the flavour of the bullying accusations
The «tell all» interview probably involves talking about how much William enjoys tending to his Rose garden.
It will be interesting to see how much the Sussexes are allowed to keep as part of their Megxit negotiations.

Now looking back over the Christmas pudding photos and portraits of the direct heirs; it’s all about maintaining the Monarchy and the future King William.

So there are potentially 2 manipulators in the Windsor family.
Meghan with her forthright America style of PR and deal making and William with his more subtle PR.
Poor old Harry stuck in the middle.

Wheresthebeach · 13/01/2020 08:37

Ahem Pineappledanish...a Canadian here with ruffled feathers galore!

We think we're very different. American are:

gun crazy

insular - very limited world view

impressed by excess - particularly excess money

very right wing - just look at their medical system to see the core beliefs - look after yourself, if you are poor its your fault.

Emotionally they believe the US is the best place in the world, and they believe very much in the American Dream. This makes them arrogant in the extreme.

Canadians are often very anti American due to the closeness and the overbearing way they behave. Yes the sky lines look similar, but emotionally, and politically it's very different. Canada won't be the canvas MM wants as its still part of the Commonwealth and has strong ties to the UK emotionally.