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Harry and Meghan resigning?

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TheMustressMhor · 08/01/2020 19:03

See link. News just announced.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/01/08/prince-harry-meghan-step-back-senior-members-royal-family-couple/

It does sound like they might be escaping from the public scrutiny and online abuse.

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slartibarti · 09/01/2020 14:15

Well, they'll be buggered if the Queen strips them of their "Sussex" title then won't they?

They could change it to SussexRoyalNOT

astralweaks · 09/01/2020 14:15

It’s just me, Ma’am.

(Sorry!)

malylis · 09/01/2020 14:16

Of course there are racist elements to the criticism of MM lots of people are just too ignorant here.

beanaseireann · 09/01/2020 14:19

In the clip astralweeks posted was I right in thinking Prince Charles did not shake D Trump's hand. Was there a deliberate stepping back ?

Zipadeedoodah · 09/01/2020 14:21

Kate and Wills have travelled by private helicopter, had whole jets flown to them empty so they could be seen to be travelling in budget class .. news of Will's affair are swept under the carpet and Kate can seem to do no wrong because closet racists spend too much time on the Daily Mail with its fawning articles that actually have backfired and alienated this once loved couple from a whole section of the world who see Kate and Wills as terribly out of touch and unable to connect with those of other cultures unless they are part of a photographed charity campaign. It's not the Kate has behaved better, it's that those who aren't able to question the reporting have accepted that the press' take on these two women is as they really are. The truth is, like most humans, they both have flaws and strengths but one has a black mother and some of those in England weren't ready for her to be part of the royal family . The good news is that the rest of the world isn't so short sighted and will welcome them without feeling the need to go the " horns or halo" approach of the British tabloids. And if you think it's insulting to suggest that you don't like Meghan because she's black it might be time to reflect and consider just how deep rooted racism and prejudice can be ..this goes along the 1970s often trotted out line" I'm not racist I've got a black friend " ..

astralweaks · 09/01/2020 14:23

and some of those in England weren't ready for her to be part of the royal family

Are you excluding the rest of the UK?

Zipadeedoodah · 09/01/2020 14:24

@astralweaks I can only comment on England as that's where I am from and base my comments on what I hear first hand but interesting in all this thats what you choose to focus on

MissEliza · 09/01/2020 14:24

They need to be out of our faces. Yes!
They can do what they like as long as they don't receive any public funding or benefit from any privileges associated with being a member of the royal family. They need to start paying rent on Frogmore 'cottage'. They've put two fingers up to the institution of the royal family by the way they handled this so they shouldn't benefit from it either.
As for their taxpayer funded security, I hope this is continually reviewed. If the perceived threat comes due to their status as royals, so be it. However, as they move into the realm of global celebrities which is what they apparently want, why should the British taxpayer fund that any more than we fund eg the Beckhams (which we don't)?

DeRigueurMortis · 09/01/2020 14:24

I can't help thinking they they are their own worst enemies tbh.

Like many people I was very pleased when they became a couple and wished them well.

I was (and still am) appalled at the vitriol of some of the press reporting.

However as events have unfolded I've become increasingly less sympathetic.

They've made some very poor decisions that predictably backfired and frankly deserved negative press coverage (specifically lecturing on climate change whilst making copious use of private jets and that awful ITV documentary where their "woe is us" segments overshadowed the point of their visit and ironically the good work they had done on that trip).

There was a thread about their 6 week stay in Canada over Christmas and like many posters I was again sympathetic - understanding their need to be with their son in private over Christmas and have some time out of the spotlight.

However, it turns out that not what it was about was it?

It was a 6 week boot camp to put in place this grand plan to have their cake and eat it.

Retain their UK royal status and the profile it brings yet being able to live outside the UK half the year, earn money through their "royalty" and by trade marking their "brand", pick and choose what public duties to perform whilst retaining their security and money from the DoC.

Then announcing all this as a fait accompli despite being asked by the Queen not to do so until discussions had taken place, presumably in a bid to tie everyone's hands and "force" this wish list into being.

I predict another round of "everyone is a meanie" if following this announcement that the Palace does not acquiesce to these "demands" and by way of example removes their HRH status (which I think they should).

It's not a good look....and I can't see this playing out how they want.

ShatnersWig · 09/01/2020 14:26

It wasn't Princess Anne's decision for Peter & Zara not to be given titles. It was her husband's, because he was an absolute commoner when they married

Not true Clangus - the Queen offered titles but Anne and Mark together declined to accept them.

astralweaks · 09/01/2020 14:28

Zipadeedoodah

I merely asked for clarification. Confused

Zipadeedoodah · 09/01/2020 14:29

Please don't read the fact that I don't post anymore anything other than I've got to get on with my busy day and I don't want to spend any more of it virtual sword fighting - Meghan and Harry aren't perfect but they haven't deserved the racist bashing they have got . They're going, it looks pants for the RF and remaining serving royals. Good luck to all those Meghan haters still insisting they're not racists. It's appalling for England and if you think I'm lying check out any of the foreign press. Good luck to Meghan and Harry- they will be great ...

FeckOffGraham · 09/01/2020 14:40

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-meghan-markle-royal-family-duke-duchess-sussex-a9276296.html%3famp

What, like this? It doesn't look all that positive..?

Look, I like MM and did like Harry, though I'm slowly going right off him and I agree they have been subjected to racism from certain parts of the press, which anyone would agree is abhorrent.

But, that doesn't mean everything they do is a great idea and I don't think their ideas have been all that great for a while. I do wonder if their PR company is in cahoots with someone who wants to sabotage them .

Lordfrontpaw · 09/01/2020 14:40

People laid into Catherine and Harry’s past girlfriends so you can’t just lay it all on racism. I seem to remember Diana and Sarah Ferguson getting it too. Only Edward’s wife seems to have flown under the radar (Sophie?).

NotEnoughTime · 09/01/2020 14:44

How gross that the Queen makes known that she’s “disappointed” that her grandson’s wife doesn’t want to work for the family business, but not disappointed that her son has been accused of sexually abusing numerous teenage girls.

x 1000000

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 09/01/2020 14:47

The rituals, with people all dressed up in crazy outfits, capes, crowns, expensive jewels .. step back and take a look at how ridiculous it all is.

Watching some of the pointless rituals that all of the RF take part in reminds me of the Groan family in the Gormenghast trilogy.

Gemm83 · 09/01/2020 14:49

Oh and Happy Birthday Kate! 🤦‍♀️

IrmaFayLear · 09/01/2020 14:50

There seem to be a lot of greedy royals about. I know twas ever thus, but now I suppose they're more in the spotlight. Prince Andrew hobnobbing with dubious characters, nay, criminals in order to fund his lifestyle, Sarah Ferguson hanging around ploughing her way through millions (and seemingly to lose it all regularly) and now Harry and Meghan prepared to have their name on socks/hats/sweatshirts (according to patents filed) in order to make "adequate" bucks.

It's all most unedifying and a giant clear-out of the lot of them save the core is essential.

ShatnersWig · 09/01/2020 14:51

How gross that the Queen makes known that she’s “disappointed” that her grandson’s wife doesn’t want to work for the family business

Will those who stated this or repeated it or agreed with it please provide a link to where the Queen has stated this? I've not been able to find it.

but not disappointed that her son has been accused of sexually abusing numerous teenage girls.

Presumably, like most parents, until any charges are brought, she backs up her son. Which fits with those threads that crop up on MN from time to time about "what would you do if you knew your son committed a crime?" and a huge number of posters say they wouldn't dob them in to the Police, even for murder!

motherheroic · 09/01/2020 15:06

I have absolutely no idea why you would want to be part of the royal family if you don't have 'royal blood'.

You lose your chosen inner circle. You can't see/speak to your friends and family freely for fears of 'leaks' or paparazzi up your arse.

Going from having your own successful career, friends and family to being hounded for something as silly as nail polish. And then only having the Queen speak oit once they decide to leave and not when they were constantly being harassed? Yeah, good riddance.

JenZenn · 09/01/2020 15:07

He’s the son of the future king, he can’t just not be Royal anymore. He knows that and is making steps to do a halfway house as that’s all he can do.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 09/01/2020 15:14

Frogmore is effectively a grace & favour apartment.
If they are going to be in the US / Canada, they should be paying rent on the apartment.
Also the very self important distinction of « Internationally Protected person» The Sussexes should pay the £600k salary of their 6 protection officers.

Given that they’ve rejected the sovereign grant which pays for their employees, are their uk staff going to lose their jobs? Nice way for them to find out; via Instagram.

They need to ditch their titles and HRHs.

bluemoon19 · 09/01/2020 15:24

I was a massive fan of hers when they got married. I loved their wedding and thought she sounded so cool with all the causes she spoke about.
I think most of us were, (fans) that’s why I think the dislike is mainly nothing to do with racism. People have gone off her, don’t like her character etc. It’s fine, we can dislike who we want. Most people disliked Fergie

choli · 09/01/2020 15:30

They’ve trademarked 100 items under the name Susseroyal. They are going to sell themselves around the world and pocket the cash.
Or perhaps it is a threat. Continue the financial support Daddy and Granny or this is what we will do.

NameChangeNugget · 09/01/2020 15:32

I think it’s lazy to call the dislike for her as racism. I actually like her and wish her well.

Sure she speaks highly of me too Grin