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Harry and Meghan resigning?

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TheMustressMhor · 08/01/2020 19:03

See link. News just announced.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/01/08/prince-harry-meghan-step-back-senior-members-royal-family-couple/

It does sound like they might be escaping from the public scrutiny and online abuse.

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astralweaks · 09/01/2020 11:43

Of course it's nothing to do with making piles of money and living a celebrity life style. hmm

Of course not. Ha. They really do seem to be poor judges of what constitutes true status. The sleb world which they, by most accounts, aspire to, is hollow and entirely peopled by the vacuous. Lovely.

yolofish · 09/01/2020 11:45

I dont dislike Meghan because she's black, American or an actress. I'm not sure I dislike her at all actually, I don't know the woman.

What I do dislike is the pick 'n choose aspect of Royal life they seem to be going for - and I assume it's both of them, what with them both being adults etc.

It's like me saying, yes I'd love to take the job you're offering with all the perks and fantastic salary, but I'm not going to do the boring bits.

Arthritica · 09/01/2020 11:46

I'm no royalist but I think it's a good move for Harry and Meghan.

The bile in the press has been awful. Harry's seen it kill his mother, why would he let himself, his wife and child face the same future? I hope they are very happy and can get some space away fgrom press intrusion.

IrmaFayLear · 09/01/2020 11:48

Quite. Or saying to the boss, "I quit! But meanwhile carry on paying my salary, and I'll keep the parking place, and the private health, and I'll come along to the office party if it's being held somewhere nice..."

astralweaks · 09/01/2020 11:48

He's way down the line of succession and will only drop further.

I think he - and she - find that fact difficult. The back of the balcony- or indeed a different balcony altogether - must be difficult places to be. The Queen’s children seem to manage it, interestingly.

Seaweed42 · 09/01/2020 11:50

I think they have had a look at Harry's cousins and decided they want their child to have a life more like Zara and Peter Phillips than Harry's own childhood and that of the Cambridges.
I agree, but that was very achievable behind the scenes that did not involve a Right Royal Sulk like this website.
'I'm running away and you made me do it!'
'I'm going to my room and not coming out until I feel like it! But leave my dinner at the door!
'Now everyone can see what bad people you are and what you made me do! I'm disowning you lot and finding a new bunch of friends!
They are forgetting one thing....One cannot get away from Oneself.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 09/01/2020 11:57

I'm probably a bit older than most here but I distinctly remember when Ann and even Margaret were in the eye of the public and the press. Ann has been able to 'fade away' only because she is now so far from the throne to be insignificant and she is too old to be 'royal glamour'. I remember the cruel cartoons of her with bow legs and jodhpurs and/or looking like a horse barring its teeth. Plus, neither had Diana (the people's princess) for a Mother. William and Harry are caught by this legacy.

DuchessofWoke · 09/01/2020 11:58

The back of the balcony- or indeed a different balcony altogether - must be difficult places to be

I think the other royals manage it because they grew up with it and accepted it. They also didn’t have any level of fame and celebrity outside of the institution and were glad of what they had within it.

Meghan is coming from a different world, in which she calls the shots and is the star of her own orbit. I agree a lifetime of standing behind Kate didn’t appeal. I don’t think she had enough (in fact, any!) exposure to the monarchy before the wedding. She had no clue that she would be expected to slot into a designated slot rather than be the star of the show. Protocol is very hard to fathom to an outsider.

IrmaFayLear · 09/01/2020 12:13

I agree that in the cold light of day the actual job - wife of heir's brother, sixth in line to the throne - just wasn't that appealing. And Harry is older too and didn't want to play the jolly ex-Army good egg ad infinitum.

They saw a life of schlepping off to open a community centre in Telford on a Monday morning and not being able to take a holiday without the number of air miles being calculated.

StuckBetweenDarknessAndLight · 09/01/2020 12:24

This is probably one of the worse threads I have ever read on MN. I was reading it last night and amazed it hasn't been pulled. Regardless of my thoughts on H&M the nastiness towards them and to other posters has been shocking.

ohprettybaby · 09/01/2020 12:32

The Queen's former spokesman, Dicky Arbiter, said on the Jeremy Vine show today that he doesn't think the media were racist towards MM. He said that we need to separate Social Media, where apparently there were racist comments, from the main press.

He also commented about H&M receiving a lot of good press regarding their engagement and wedding and it wasn't until after their wedding that things went wrong.

He highlighted a couple of instances where H&M had messed up (my words, not his):

  1. Their hypocracy for comments about climate change while taking private jets as one example.
  2. He commented on the press being told they would be informed when DOS went into labour.
On the day of Archie's birth, he said they were told around 11a.m. that DOS had gone into labour when, in fact, their son had been born around 5 hours earlier.

I must admit that when I signed up to MN I wondered what all the comments about racism were about. I'd not seen anything about it in the press and I'm not on FB or Twitter or similar. I have since seen the Danny Baker thing but feel that was handled well as he was sacked quickly.

On the threads I've read on MN, I haven't read anything that is racist and am sure that MNHQ would delete any racist posts.

I don't like it that some posters talk about racist UK as if we are all racist. I am not bothered whether a royal married someone white, mixed race, black, Asian or whatever. It doesn't matter. I believe racists are not in the majority in the UK and I have never had friends or family say anything to me at all about DOS' race. Hardly said anything about her at all actually. I asked DH. He's heard nothing either.

I think a small minority with big mouths might be racist but don't tar us all with the same brush.

Mummylovesbags · 09/01/2020 12:35

You know I think we don’t recognise the racism because it’s so much deeper than Meghan being biracial.

I don’t think that the royals have ever had a bride that didn’t have green or blue eyes.

My point is that I think we’re so racist that we don’t realise how racist we are.

On some level we judged her as different or the press did because she wasn’t the English rose that shopped at M&S for her sandwiches and bought from the high street. Kate’s kind of like the thin, middle class wealthy wife we all aspire to on some
Level with her normal family. Softly spoken and diplomatic & followed all the rules and traditions and basically a ‘good girl’.

In comes Meghan who has worked her way out of a working class family. She’s gone after an acting dream relentlessly, got a good degree, made millions and then started a successful social media site on the back of this and done volunteer work and aligned herself with an upper class set.
She’s talking about the #metoo movement before she’s even married Harry at a forum while Kate sits there quietly - 2 weeks earlier Kate has not worn black for the #metoo movement because she’s a good girl that follows royal rules.

This upsets us !!! Women are meant to be like Kate. The fairy princess is meant to be humble and meek & an English rose following traditions and dutiful and lucky to be picked by a prince, lucky to have a wonderful family, a perfect fit and a perfect choice and the perfect solution to all the poor princes problems.

We thought it amusing when the black preacher was laughed out of their wedding with shameless smirking that the royals didn’t even try to hide.

I think we don’t see our racism because it’s so deep and so wrapped up in all sexism, female martyrdom, class prejudice and judgment. We’re just full of judgment.

They didn’t come off well in the press but I think that was designed by the media.

You never see Kate being medically underweight be criticised (or william’s loyalty. They’re completely protected.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 09/01/2020 12:38

It's a shame Boris Johnson doesnt get held to the same standards as is expected of MM.

cheezy · 09/01/2020 12:40

I admire them for this move. I think it’s bourne out of sheer desperation and a desire on Harry’s part to protect his wife and child (and look after his own mental health) It just have been an agonising decision to make. I wonder what Charles thinks.

JanesKettle · 09/01/2020 12:44

I think it's kind of gross, for people who are supposed to 'care' about the Commonwealth, to make a big fuss about their own personal lifestyle choices at a time when some of their Commonwealth subjects have lost their homes, their livelihoods, their towns, their coasts, their industries and their lives in the ongoing bushfire crisis in Australia.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 09/01/2020 12:48

Exactly. I think e.g Jennifer Anniston would have a different view of the American tabloid press.

Precisely. I remember when Tom Cruise got divorced, and when Tiger Woods had his extra marital affairs. Ask either of them if the American trash magazine culture is nicer than the British press.

MissEliza · 09/01/2020 12:49

I think it's sad when you see rifts in families. There have been some really bad fallouts in my own family and I feel ultimately everyone loses out in those situations. MM has no relationship with her extended family or her own df. Out of a huge congregation, she only had only family member on her side. Now Harry is moving away from his family. I think the way they've handled it can only cause deep bitterness and resentment amongst Harry's family and I think it will be hard to heal that. He has made his own choices but I do think they are encouraged by a woman who doesn't value family.

Womenwotlunch · 09/01/2020 12:49

All this manipulating Harry shit.
The fact is that Harry has never liked being a Royal, he has always yearned to have a ‘normal’ life. Marrying Meghan and having Archie just gave him the courage to step down

CruCru · 09/01/2020 12:49

I think the Duchess of Cambridge has brown eyes - although there was definitely a stage where the press were talking about how she was “too ordinary” to marry into the Royal family.

I wonder whether the press will start running horrible stories about her again?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 09/01/2020 12:50

What can the royal family do about bush fires other than offer sympathy to the victims?

Mulledwineinajug · 09/01/2020 12:51

Jeez. You do realise that none of us actually have a clue and only know what the press want us to believe. We don’t know the people involved, we don’t know what happened or why.

Mulledwineinajug · 09/01/2020 12:51

And also, you know, it doesn’t really affect us much!

IrmaFayLear · 09/01/2020 12:55

The fact is that Harry has never liked being a Royal, he has always yearned to have a ‘normal’ life. Marrying Meghan and having Archie just gave him the courage to step down

Eh? He's hardly going off into the sunset and intending to live a quiet 9-5 life like "normal" people. Look at their website and all their plans! The patents for branded goods in their name, the charity foundations... How is that commensurate with wanting to live a life out of the limelight?

JanesKettle · 09/01/2020 12:56

What can the royal family do about bush fires other than offer sympathy to the victims

Nobody wants their sympathy. We all know the Royals don't give a crap, unless they want a down-under holiday.

I just think it's ridiculous they make themselves, and their choice to go live a lovely life elswhere half the time, appear of any significance whatsoever.

A billion animals have died in these fires, a billion plus insects, climate change is looming, and we're expected to empathise with the life choices of the elite ? Give me a break. Where's the perspective ?

Two healthy people with one health son decide to do their life a little bit differently than they did before, but with luxury problems to suit their luxury lives. It's crazy we're even talking about them. Why can't they just sink into oblivion - or be stars in the US, either way, they need to be out of our faces.

OlaEliza · 09/01/2020 12:57

Bit of a snidey move to announce this the evening before Kate's birthday 🤨