Harry and Meghan resigning?

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See link. News just announced.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/01/08/prince-harry-meghan-step-back-senior-members-royal-family-couple/

It does sound like they might be escaping from the public scrutiny and online abuse.

Dognamedspot it would have killed any mother to stand on steps tarted up pretending she's not in horrific pain I bloody hope she sat in her pyjamas like every other mother who just gave birth.

No the thread is split between the unhinged who hate the sight of her but now she says she’s leaving their sight, can’t cope with that either and those who realise they are human beings who want to put clear distance between themselves and the unhinged and ‘manifestos’ writing types who sit behind keyboards frothing about people who don’t impact their lives.

Love - she's not your mother. She's a highly paid member of the royal family.

any mother

I am a serious anti-royalist, but I feel for Harry. I still remember him following Diana's coffin and he has admitted that his mental health was pretty fucked up by what happened. Now he can see his own wife being treated the same way I'm not surprised why he's stepping back. The vitriol leveled at Meghan is disgusting and I think it is partially because of her race and partially because of her nationality. I'm quite disgusted about some of the comments on MN too - a website supposedly supportive of women.

They're still attention seeking in the way they're claiming to withdraw from public life. It's just hypocracy after hypocracy. How are they going to travel between UK and US - I thought they were campaigning against flying? Sorry, but she's brought it all on herself (just like Diana) by wanting the media attention when it suits her. The media won't be controlled like that. Other Royals and slebs manage to avoid media attention by not courting it in the first place. Good riddance. Harry will come to regret ever meeting her.

"Hardly anyone outside of the US had even HEARD of her when she started dating Harry".

Yet she was a cast member in a internationally syndicated popular show.

Yeah yeah yeah

I hadn’t even heard of the show 🤷‍♀️

For example, would it really have killed them to do the traditional pose with new baby on the steps?

Why would you want her to pose a couple of hours after pushing a baby out? How is that any kind of reasonable ask?

When Kate did it there were threads on here about how barbaric it was.

And it’s not traditional either. The queen didn’t do it. She had all her babies at home.

People holding this against Meghan quite honestly blows my mind. What kind of person thinks like that?

Even the people who have not formed a bizarre hatred for a complete stranger about whom they know nothing (Meghan) seem to attribute all the agency about this to her, and not to Harry.

I get the feeling that this was planned (or at least desired) by Harry before he even MET Meghan. How many people like to be "groomed" to be their brother's sidekick in life? He was obviously blissfully happy in the army, and then he was pulled out by the Firm to come back to a desk job in London.

He has been very open about his feelings this entire time, and equally Charles has been very open about wanting to trim back the RF to just the direct line of succession. This obv. doesn't include Harry or his wife and children.

This was underscored by the photos on the table during the Queen's Speech - ONLY the direct line of succession + spouses. It was significant that Harry & Meghan were not there in the pictures.

So... I don't buy for a MOMENT that this is some bombshell that H&M have dropped. It's clearly been coming for at least a year, even to non royal-watchers.

Zara Tindall is the only member of the royal family to have what appears to be a normal, happy and healthy life (and to have privately earned money through her stables and Longines contract). I can't blame Harry for wanting a life more like hers for his family.

Is the US going to pay for all the security on their side?

Who's paying for the flights?

Is there another house they'd like us to knock dwn and rebuild for them?

If this was a way to escape from bad headlines, it was not good advice.

A lot of very nasty people on this thread. What do they want, a live stream of Archie's birth?
Frankly Harry has probably taken a look at Andrew and his kids and thought, a purposeless life is bad all round and better to avoid it. I think he is 💯 correct to do this.
Not a royalist at all but God who could blame them?
Would also be interested to see how many Megan critics voted for Mr Johnson? It might be interesting to see what they can forgive in one and not in the other?

They're still attention seeking in the way they're claiming to withdraw from public life

Spot on.

For people with such sensitive feelings, they sure have dished it out to their family.

A lot of dumb people on this thread who don't get how the crown estates work, or how the sovereign grant does .

Or how racism doesn't have to be blatant, often in the same post, demonstrating just how thick they are.

For those alleging that she was in so much pain after pushing the baby out that she couldn't do the photo on the steps. Here's the thing. Archie has two parents. Everyone would have been thrilled to see a photo of Harry with his little baby soon after the birth. On the steps, sitting in a chair, standing up... whatever. I don't think anyone would have been disappointed if something like that had happened with a brief explanation that Meghan wasn't really up to it.

Anyway, that was just an example where, for me, they have deliberately shunned simple acts that go a long way with the public. People loved both of them when they first got together, but as you look back you can see how their actions damaged the relationship.
I maintain that if you don't like any job you leave, and you lose the salary and perks.
When I said she was relatively well known I was being kind. You see I don't "hate" either of them. I think they have exercised poor judgement and rather abused their position with the inevitable outcome.

I think we are all underestimating Harry in all of this. Maybe MM is not the manipulator we all think she is.

I think Harry must have been very badly scared by his mothers death. I can't ever forget the footage of him walking behind her coffin. That was an awful thing to make him do in front of the whole world. Then he saw a glimpse of what joy looks like when Kate married Wills and then he found someone of his own who is actually good for him.

I think Wills is smitten with her and his son and has looked at how they have been treated by us and decided that he is out. Good on him if he has.

"If we have to have a Royal Family at all, it should consist only of those in the direct line to the throne and their spouses/dependent children up to the age of 18. I.e. Queen, DofE, Charles, Camilla, William, Catherine, George - and Charlotte and Louis until 18 only."

This is what Charles wants to instigate - when (if) he becomes King, the monarchy will be streamlined to the direct line only... but until George has a child or children of his own, Charlotte at least, remains in direct line to the throne. So, if George doesn't marry/have a child until he's 30, say... or indeed, if he chooses not to marry/have children, then Charlotte "needs" to stay. It's the heir and spare principle, as awful as that sounds. Harry was 3rd in line to the throne, don't forget, right up until William started his family with Catherine.

@dognamedspot would it really have killed them to do the traditional pose with new baby on the steps?

Only Diana and Kate have ever posed on the steps, as they were/are married to a direct line heir. Edward's Sophie didn't pose on the steps, nor did Fergie. It is not the done thing, except for the future Queen. Regardless of that, it's very petty and trivial, and quite entitled for the public to think they have the right to 'demand' Meghan did the step thing. It is not even part of protocol, it is not part of her duty, and so why the heck should she? This is what I mean when I say that the detractors can be quite entitled, demanding and spiteful and petty. The hatred of Meghan for such petty things is bizarre.

Mockers2020Vision apparently they have made clear they intend to keep Frogmore cottage on (despite the £2.4 million renovations being tax payer funded) and also want to keep their existing supplied security at £650k a year too.

I have no doubt a few nasty critics are because of her race/nationality but I'd say the majority- like myself - just found them insincere, condescending and hypocritical in so many of their actions and words. I really wanted to love them and at first I did.

They don't own Frogmore cottage. It needed renovating as part of the crown estates.

Harry and his children would get security no matter what they did.

He is the child of the heir and the brother to the next in line.

Agree its 'having cake and eat it too'. If they don't want to be tied by being Royals...fair enough. Decide to be private citizens and go and live your lives.

Now the reports coming out that 'The Firm' heard about it from the TV reports. That's an awful way to treat the Queen. They've had a tonne of public money...massive wedding, Frogmore, etc etc and this is the response? Kate had topless pics printed, Diana didn't exactly get a easy ride either.

If they want out...great...hopefully it mean public funds aren't spent on them. They'll make millions from the website, Harry got reportedly £20m from Diana, £7m from Queen Mother, and gets a couple of million a year from Charles. So they can afford their own lives, without taxpayer support.

The speed at which relations have been severed since the wedding is breathtaking.

It seems they didn't tell the Palace before making the announcement. Surely even their firmest supporters can't deny that was a dick move?

They need to resign absolutely and totally otherwise the reasons they've given make no sense whatsoever. They will continue to 'suffer' unless they bow out completely.
Whole thing reeks of insincerity.

malylis absolute rubbish! The plans were completely tailored to their very specific demands- yes some was structural and needed doing but completely redecorating, landscaping the gardens... they hired Soho Farmhouse interior designer to oversee it- at a huge cost and shows the level of luxury they wanted and spent (our) money on.