Challenge 25 ID policy.

[Wayland1]

Hello,

What do you think of the policy that requires shops to ask for ID from anybody who looks like they are under the age of 25 when they buy age-restricted products?

It's stupid because all people have to do to get around it is to just put the money on the counter and walk out with the item they are buying. But the notices are still nonetheless very unpleasant to have to look at.

What do you think?

19 year old DD looks 15. The only reason she has a provisional driving licence is so that she can use it as ID.

Acautionarytale having been the victim of banking fraud I am glad that banks query large transactions and ask for ID. Our bank spotted a couple of large, out of the ordinary withdrawals one new year. Their fraud team contacted us to confirm if we had made the withdrawals. We hadn't, and they refunded the money.

In certain US counties, they won’t serve you alcohol if you look under 50, unless you have photographic ID. I think challenge 25 is a very sensible policy, it’s been in force for quite a few years. Certainly the shop my DS works in adhere to it, no way would they allow someone to put money down and walk out!

I work in a supermarket - there is no way that anyone can get around the policy by leaving money at the counter as it's either self service or paying at a staffed till and tbh, I'm glad that it's there as I would have a job at times telling if someone is over 18. None of the people that I ask for ID from ever complain or look annoyed and a lot of them are already reaching for it as they go to the till.

I don't carry ID as I have a paper driving license.
It is starting to be a pain at times though still rarely enough that I don't want to change.

In certain US counties, they won’t serve you alcohol if you look under 50, unless you have photographic ID

Is carrying of ID mandatory in those counties?

You've not elaborated as to why it's unpleasant and how you can possibly walk out with alcohol by just dumping money on the counter. Unless you talking about a newsagent type shop.

A shop near me was fined for selling knives to a 17 year old who used them to stab & murder someone minutes later.
Not sure that a notice would have helped, or whether the murderer would have acted differently a few months later, but I still avoid using the store.
The more that is in place to prevent sale of knives, alcohol etc to minors the better.
(not forgetting the PP challenged on Christmas Crackers of course)

@Fr0g some supermarkets in high knife crime areas have actually stopped selling knives in their store. I had a memo down about it but as the store I work at isn't seen as a high risk area we could leave them on sale but they have to be security tagged and a think 25 label secured close by.

I'm 29 and I occasionally get ID'd but I dont really mind as i always have some ID. However I was buying a bottle of gin last week and the lady asked for my ID ,not a problem and I go to get it our of my purse which is pretty messy. the lady tuts at me and says 'if you're under 25 you should have your ID ready' As I pass over my ID I tell her i'm 29 and she looks at it for longer than usual and replies 'hmm I suppose you are'.
Bit of a weird one really! Still got my gin though :)

I don't buy ID products very often, but after I had DC1 I got asked every time, after I had DC2 I got asked some of the time, and after I had DC3 I've never been asked. I obviously look much more haggard now! Tbh I prefer not being asked because I don't have to faff around at the tills (especially as it's usually for a bread knife, house matches or calpol). But I do sometimes think "have I really aged that much so quickly?"

I'm 41 and was IDd last year in sainsburys. Made my day to be honest!

I've not been asked for ID for years. I'd be delighted if they did.

I'm 53. Maybe I just look like the old codger I must be becoming now.

I want to add that most countries don't require you to have ID for buying certain items.

I want to add that most countries don't require you to have ID for buying certain items.

What countries and what items? Would you rather there was no law in place? I genuinely don't understand your issue.

What countries and what items? Would you rather there was no law in place? I genuinely don't understand your issue.

Go across to Europe, for example.

What ARE you on about OP? I'm completely baffled why you bothered to start this discussion, and as you've still not answered any of the questions put to you I've no idea what point you're trying to make.

I just get offended that they never ask me for ID!

It’s not even on age restricted items nowadays. Try buying a can of Coca Cola Energy or Red Bull without ID nowadays. A lot of shops won’t let you buy “high caffeine” drinks without ID. I bet it doesn’t cover instant coffee though!

I'm 35 - last time I was ID'd was only 6 months ago! That was for 12 bottles of beer in a Tesco Extra and I had my 3 year old in the trolley and 1 year old in a back carry in the sling.

Try buying a can of Coca Cola Energy or Red Bull without ID nowadays. A lot of shops won’t let you buy “high caffeine” drinks without ID.

WTF? That’s insane.

@InAPrettyCabinet - yes, it's a relatively high crime area (nothing like stopping the local yoof to tell them that their tough looking staffie is a pretty boy).
The shop in question always has crowds of teenagers outside, I suspect they're still not overly tough on selling alcohol to underage kids, and if not dealing from the shop, pretty certain that there is among the assorted kids outside.
I rarely used the place to start with, but it's now off of my list for Amazon pickups.

I work for a convenience store part-time and I'm really strict with I.D. We have a think 25 policy for everything that is age restricted.

At the end of the day, it's me that can end up jobless and with a £1000 fine if I don't I.D people correctly. That is more important to me than other people's ego and need for alcohol.

We don't do it to be dicks, we want to sell as much as possible to hit our sales tickets. Our biggest sellers is alcohol. But it's my job on the line and my criminal record.

Carrying ID in the United States is not mandatory. Your life will be complicated if you choose not to. You need it for driving obviously, but also to buy alcohol, cold medicine, and to check in at the doctor’s office. You need it for setting up any kind of banking or credit situation and can be required to provide it at any time after they are set up. Some locations or stores also require it for buying spray paint or knives or whatever else kids have been getting into trouble with lately. We also need it to vote, register kids for school, and for access to certain government buildings. Oh and you might get carded going to see a movie if you are a teenager. But of course, carrying it is not mandatory, it just limits your options if you choose not to have one.

A few days after my 21st birthday I got ID'd when buying beer. This was in Germany where you can buy beer at 16

Also I once failed a test purchase (one set by the store thankfully and not Reading Standards, so the person was over 18 but under 25) and I was advised to ID anyone I thought was under 30!

You have to be over 16 to buy an energy drink in most supermarkets. i think that's good because you don't want your school age children buying Red Bull/Monster etc. Well I didn't anyway.

Sorry that should say Trading Standards and not Reading Standards.