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To ask if you think there will be a second coming?

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LuluBellaBlue · 03/01/2020 18:29

This is inspired by the new Netflix show Messiah, about a second coming.

I really hope this doesn’t upset or offend anyone and people can share their beliefs and thoughts openly and without prejudice or judgement as I know this can be very sensitive for some people.

Following on from —binge— watching this series I did a bit of googling and it seems both Christian and Muslim regions predict this. (Not researched if any others do yet)

I’m not very well informed about different regions but the concept of this programme has really interested me, I find it fascinating that this could, maybe? actually happen!

Do you think there could be a second coming?!

(And what would it actually mean for the world? A rise in consciousness? Mass healing???)

YABU - no don't be so daft!
YANBU - yes, this could happen, why not?!

OP posts:
theflushedzebra · 04/01/2020 16:52

(When you notice a typo just after pressing post message! I couldn't stop watching it!)

mindproject · 04/01/2020 17:21

I love the ending of Messiah. I hope there will be a second series.

PhilCornwall1 · 04/01/2020 18:07

I love the ending of Messiah. I hope there will be a second series.

A second coming.

MopsRUs · 04/01/2020 18:08

Logic and science are good, but our discovery of the universe, other dimensions etc. is minuscule so far. That doesn't prove or disprove a higher power, but it would make me think twice about sneering at the very possibility.

Letthemysterybe · 04/01/2020 18:15

Religious feeling Is so alien to me that when I read “Yes, I believe Jesus will come back to judge the living and the dead 🙏 and those repent and believe will live eternally in heaven” I honestly can’t tell if the poster is being serious or not!

SirChing · 04/01/2020 19:15

I believe pretty much the same as MadHairDay, in that I do believe there will be a second coming, and don't see a contradiction between science and faith.

Apparently (can't remember where I read it) it was a Catholic priest who was also a scientist who first proposed the Big Bang theory. The Catholic Church and many other Christians also fully accept evolution as a concept.

I see Science and Religion as being almost two different languages to describe things. The Bible tells us that God created the world and the creatures within in, Science explains the details of how.

What I do find strange is that I also read somewhere that around that time in Palestine, the place was crawling with people claiming to be the Messiah. But what tended to happen is that when they were discredited by whatever means, their followers immediately ditched them. Who wants to be associated with a discredited, false Messiah?

Yet with Jesus, not only did his followers not reject him once he was captured and killed, many of them also went to their own deaths, defending him and his teachings. Why? What made Jesus different from all the other supposed Messiah's of the time?

I find it fascinating that Revelations state that when Jesus comes back he will be seen by all the world simultaneously and people of all languages will be able to understand him. The people who wrote that had no idea that TV would be invented in the future, and that via translators/subtitles it would be possible for people all over the works to see and understand him.

Regarding the miracles etc - some of it may have been sleight of hand, who knows. But IF God did sent someone to Earth and needed them to be able to prove that they were his messenger, then he would also need to give them a way to differentiate themselves from an ordinary person. Miracles and rising from the dead would be a pretty good way to do this. How else could Jesus prove who he was?

I don't claim to have answers to it all, far from it. I don't like what lots of organised religions have done in the world. But, having paedophiles in the Catholic Church (for example) doesn't null and void the entire teachings of the Church, in the same way that a maths teacher, being a convicted paedophile, doesn't stop their message of algebra and Pi being true.

SirChing · 04/01/2020 19:17

Sorry for length and typos Blush

Engard · 04/01/2020 19:40

Just a character from a book written a long time ago. Obi Wan Konobi is as real as Jesus.

whatlouisesaid · 04/01/2020 19:41

I haven’t seen messiah yet, but it’s on my to watch list! I’m a Christian and absolutely believe in the second coming. Feel free to pm me if you would like to ask any more questions or for me to explain it in more depth for you :) I don’t really want to write too much as I don’t want to get jumped on for being a nut 😂🙈

whatlouisesaid · 04/01/2020 19:42

@Engard did you know there are 800 non biblical, historical references to Jesus? That’s more than Julias ceaser! No notable historian will deny that Jesus existed in the time he is said to of existed, the only question being, is he really the son of God

2020maddog · 04/01/2020 19:43

I believe there will be. But no doubt he'll be locked up for having delusions.

yorkshirebloke1 · 04/01/2020 19:50

Does the Shinto religion also predict a second coming?

Nutellalovesme · 04/01/2020 20:52

Madhairday

Walkingdeadfangirl · 04/01/2020 21:11

The interesting bit of a second coming would be what god comes and what it does when it gets here. Very good chance if its a jesus character he would be considered insane or alternatively arrested for genocide.

But say its a version of the catholic god coming, will they only 'save' 'practising' catholics or will it be all of them? Which means the rest of humanity is doomed to be drowned tortured in hell for eternity.

Do catholics really want to be complicit in the torture of billions of people? Its not very christian, is it? I dont get how any religious people could have a second coming without becoming monsters. Am very glad I never have to square that circle.

Atheists would be the only people to get out of this with a clean conscious, as they never worshipped any false gods so wont be punished and wont be involved in the deaths of billions of people.

GladAllOver · 04/01/2020 21:12

I had a second coming on Thursday morning. We had a lie in and DH was really on form :)

CardinalSin · 04/01/2020 21:27

"did you know there are 800 non biblical, historical references to Jesus?"

Not a single one is from when he was supposed to be alive...

Nutellalovesme · 04/01/2020 21:30

Who did Jesus think he was?

Nutellalovesme · 04/01/2020 21:46

Did Jesus rise from the dead?
Part one: The Facts

CardinalSin · 04/01/2020 21:49

Why are you posting ill-researched videos by a horrifically biased source? Are they supposed to convince us of something?

Nutellalovesme · 04/01/2020 21:57

Did Jesus rise from the dead?
Part two: The Explanation

AllideasAndNoAction · 04/01/2020 22:03

I don’t think Jesus was totally made up. I’m sure he was very real. I’m just not sure he was the son of god. I don’t think god exists.

theflushedzebra · 04/01/2020 22:04

Please stop posting Youtube videos all over this thread - it should be an interesting discussion between posters.

theflushedzebra · 04/01/2020 22:11

That was only directed at the last 4 videos btw - the Red Dwarf one was funny Grin Love Red Dwarf.

SirChing · 04/01/2020 22:15

@Walkingdeadfangirl Thats a really interesting point. I can't speak for what anyone else believes, but I reckon that everyone would get a chance to follow and accept him before any smiting occurs!

Supposedly, the Rapture happens first, where all the Christians get whizzed directly to heaven in a blink of an eye a la Jesus after the resurrection when he ascended.

Between them and Jesus coming back, there is meant to be tribulation on Earth, and a huge battle between good and evil, when people will have the chance to decide whether they think Jesus and God are real or not. THEN Jesus comes back after that. I think that's what fundamentalists believe.

So the people then who would be wiped out would be those who have consciously chosen evil. It says somewhere in the Bible that everyone will get a chance to accept that it's real. So good people who aren't Christians but don't wish to follow evil should be fine.

SirChing · 04/01/2020 22:15

Then not them!

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