To think my daughter shouldn't have to share a room with a boy!

[GColdtimer]

Because if you are in Oxfordshire, the council thinks schools should facilitate mixed sex dorm rooms for residential trips, as well as allowing mixed sex loos, changing rooms and sports.

It's on this thread thread

I think the person who reckons men protected women from sexual predatory so instilled segregation has shocking history. I've posted here and made threads for some time. The fact you think that I can't be a woman just like you because I disagree with you shows what a tiny mind you have. Oh we both had a womb at birth and didn't mind it so we must have the same opinions.

Great posts Pity and Datun

Oh we both had a womb at birth and didn't mind it so we must have the same opinions

Didn't mind it? What?

Anyway back to the thread. I think Gail is becoming a little excited.

GColdtimer

This case is every bit as important as the Maya case and the Harry case.

People will be held accountable.

And the more people who know about it, the better.

Anyway back to the point of the thread which I believe was the safeguarding of children in school/under school care.

I instill boundaries and the need for personnel ones in my daughters and my sons. That said they are at school 6 hours a day and if the SG is not robust then it is the children who at at risk.

@T0tallyFuckedUpFamily

Kindly do not misgender me. Thank you. It is incredibly rude to assume I am male because I don't meet what you see as female stereotypes. Women are not limited to certain viewpoints because of their sex. You are being anti feminist

BTW
Don’t think we haven’t noticed the modern version of a scold’s bridle.

@Cushycat

I'm highlighting the sexism and misogyny in assuming i am male because I don't agree with the majority here.

I'd say the women starting this thread because a trans child might share a tent with little Maximillian are the ones who have lost the plot

Well I have a daughter, and she's obviously not called Maximillian. But as I posted upthread there would be nothing to lose the plot over as she would be so profoundly uncomfortable with the idea of sharing a tent and undressing in front of a male bodied person that she would opt out of the activity entirely. She would miss out. But apparently a transgirl's right to be accepted as female, trumps DDs right to take part in a single sex activity.

You are being anti feminist

Nope. Just anti woman hater.

As a teacher I too would refuse to run residentials where a boy got shoved in with girls and the girls expected to be ok with it. It is a HUGE safeguarding red flag. Massive.

I thought the point was that nobody needs to transition because females and males can be and like and feel anything regardless of sex. Now I hear I'm a man because I think and write a certain way.

I suspect that most teachers would feel the same.

I think just let them in. If you're so crippled by a traumatic incident that you can't stand to know someone with a cock and likely no interest in you is nearby, you probably qualify for the disabled toilets anyway. You won't see anyone there.

Whenever i see this in future I will laugh at how silly all this is. You've really convinced me to get behind rights for trans people and to be welcoming and supportive to any trans children or their parents I come acorss in nursery. I see what hate they face now.

I think you are trolling us now. You must be. Firstly to dismiss the trauma if women who have been raped is pretty disgusting.

Secondly, there is no such thing as trans child who attends nursery.

I would like to know Ofsted's stance on this actually. Has anyone looked into it?

@PineappleDanish

DD would not even know most likely so her little brain could go unfrazzled darling

Eek. Bold fail. First two paras are quoting Gail.

And should it occur where I teach that a boy is given access to girls' loos and changing facilities I will shout loudly about it.

Oh doing feminism wrong by not agreeing that vulnerable women and children should be protected by practice and law.

Not sure what kind of feminism would want to reduce protection for women and children on the basis of one person says they don’t care so anyone who does needs correction.

I agree with those saying it's important not to mix sex with gender.

We are becoming more progressive as a society and that means providing accommodations for transgendered persons. So in future everywhere should have sex based faculties and trans based facilities. So 4 facilities.

I think prisons need this with separate transgendered wings to take away the risk of male sex sexual abusers transitioning to woman and accessing woman safe spaces. They can access a woman's prison in the woman's gender wing as opposed to the woman sex wing.

I know by the time I was year 11 (15yo) I didn't mind sleeping with males in someone's house (but maybe I just had very trustworthy friends?) but I wouldn't have been comfortable mix sex with people I didn't know.

DD would not even know most likely so her little brain could go unfrazzled darling

Of course she'd know. Her head does not zip up the back. Her eyes work just fine too.

Cushy I do not know any teachers but do many you know also feel uncomfortable with the mixed sex changing/sleeping?

Would it be the teachers that faced the hammer if something happened?

From the Twitter link

The legal challenge to OCC will impact every single child in school in England and Wales and will influence the law in Scotland. This is not just a local challenge, we need parents everywhere to understand the implications of the adoption of this guidance so please share..

The Twitter thread itself is mind blowing. The problems that safe schools alliance have identified must be addressed.

mobile.twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1213115485967007744?s=20

And they are continually being targeted in order to get them shutdown.

In the words of J. K. Rowling #ThisIsNotADrill

If their parents say their child is trans before 5 I will just believe them thanks to you guys. You've convinced me that they must be right just by your hysteria

Cushycat yeah, that's kind of where I came in on this thread. Teachers will not want to be in charge of that sort of shitshow. & if you think how hard it is to get enough colleagues together to run a residential anyway...

It's to be hoped that the maintenance of sensible safeguarding rather than the demise of school trips is the outcome!