To think teachers are quite well paid?

[Newyearnewnameforme]

Not intended goadily but my salary is more than most of my graduate friends.

Obviously, it isn’t Rockefeller standards but AIBU to think it’s actually OK?

I don't know. Tell us your salary and then I can say whether YABU or not.

£47,000

It falls way short of others in private sector.

What kinds of jobs do your friends have? Do the have graduate entry jobs? What is their potential pay progression? What are their other perks?

I have siblings who teach; both graduates, both did further post grad studies . Their pay is shit. And, if you work it out per hour, and include home-prep, it’s verging on illegal.
It may start off ok but it doesn’t climb high or fast.

Well that's way above what the average teacher earns in the UK so you can't really use your salary as evidence that teachers on the whole are well paid.

£47,000 is not a classroom teacher pay if you are outside of London.

Are you head of department?

If not, then how unusual

Yes, £47k is a pretty good salary. Is that your starting salary? My understanding is that they're about half that but I don't work in teaching 🤷‍♀️.

You're a well paid teacher; that doesn't mean all teachers are well paid.

That's definitely not average class teacher pay. What's your role?

For stress levels, possibley look at occupations where a mistake would end in death, so paramedics, long hours and shifts

A paramedic isn’t earning as much as £47k per year

I’m on £12k less than that and have been teaching for years - I earn significantly less than all my graduate friends. It depends who you’re comparing myself too. I have a friend who’s a nurse and earns way more than me but she’s VERY senior - I wouldn’t use her example to tell everyone how well paid nurses are .

I work with a teacher who is on £60,000 and works a 4 day week. Were not in a school environment however so that probably makes a difference.

Fwiw I think teachers deserve more pay. However your salary is definitely on the lower end compared to other industries. I'm in the city, graduates with 5+ years behind them quickly outpace yours and in my professional network, most earn £100k+ .

£47k is excellent but not enough in the South sorry.

HOD yes, but there are options for promotion. If you just stay as classroom teacher, the pay will stagnate but that’s true of any job - if you stay in the same role as the one you went into at 22, the pay probably won’t dramatically improve.

Starting salary is around £22000 I think? Not bad really.

That is unachievable as a class teacher in most parts of the country so YABU just for that.

Yourself not myself!

No but then I probably didn’t have the brains or talent to work in the city

£47k is obviously decent and a lot more than the vast majority of teachers earn. What a goady thread

@Newyearnewnameforme, you are obv on the leadership pay scale or possibly a head- but not a well paid one.

I think your post is pretty disingenuous, an NQT goes in at 24k, which is pretty far from your £47,000

I believe teachers are overworked rather than underpaid. I don't think higher wages solve the problem. More staff at various levels would be more help. Office staff and Support staff have been cut over the years at my dds school. Less paper work.

Secondary? No primary teachers I know are paid that even as deputy heads in most schools.

I was a normal classroom teacher up until last year, and my final salary was £32,000, so I wasn’t as well paid as you

It’s definitely enough to pay the bills, especially if you have a partner with a second income, but DH and I don’t have holidays and can’t save much for a house deposit.

I have teacher friends and family members and their argument is that although, on paper, the salary isn't bad, the amount of hours they are expected to put in puts them below minimum hourly wage (marking, planning etc).

As HOD you are obviously going to be paid more than a newly qualified classroom teacher.

'Not intended goadily'.
No, of course not! I'm on just under £25k if anyone's interested.