To think teachers are quite well paid?

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Not intended goadily but my salary is more than most of my graduate friends.

Obviously, it isn’t Rockefeller standards but AIBU to think it’s actually OK?

Ha ha! When I was a teacher I earned 32k. On the UPS. As you well know, OP, most teachers are on the main scale and earn in the 20-30k bracket.

For reference, my husband is 3 years younger than me and earns more than 10k more than I did, in the private sector. 9-5 job, good holidays, great pension.

I think they are actually pretty good especially once you take the pension and holidays into account. Yes, some graduates get more in the longer term but some get less too.

I work part-time, 3rd year of teaching. My pay would be £24.5k pro rata. I do not think teaching is well paid. 47k would be in the UPS and also with a TLR possibly? How many years have you been teaching?

Anyone earning above about 36k is managed out as being too expensive in several of the schools I've been to.

@Selfsettling3

It falls way short of others in private sector.
What sort of "others" - are you referring to teachers in private sector or other roles?

I was literally about to say most primary deputy heads are paid that much so definitely not your average teacher!

£47 000 is inner London pay scale for U2, so not your average teaching salary! Starting salary is £24000, so nearly half of yours.

Report it then elizabeth

A thread can be contentious, in that it invites a range of views, without being goady.

Why is it goady?

Honey but you chose to stay as a classroom teacher, didn’t you?

I guess it depends what your degree is and where its from and how far into your career you are. I'm 35 and almost all my friends from uni are comfortably earning mostly well over 60k.

This thread is interesting and completely contradictory of recent threads. Remove the profession and we have a 'I think £47k is a good salary' and people are piling in saying it's not. Last week someone dared suggest t that they couldn't live off &40k and got utterly slated with everyone piling in to say how they got by with £20k and the &40ker was living in a bubble..

I'd suggest that your salary is not representative of the majority of teachers. Mine is nowhere near this and I am an experienced class teacher.

That's not what most teachers are on. When I was phase leader, Science lead and Year 6 classroom teacher I was on about 38k. I also did about 70 hours a week.
I quit and moved abroad. Now I'm classroom teacher for Maths, English, Science, Humanities and PE, Maths and Curriculum lead and work 40 hours per week, much less during the holidays. I'm on 42k.

Also the extra hours argument doesn’t really hold water. Most salaried professionals in the private sector are putting in loads of extra hours.

If you're also in London then £47k would definitely be well below what most graduate friends are earning (as I said we left uni over 10 years ago soon established careers).

£47k???? I don’t know anyone on that kind of money

That’s true arethere, if I suggested I struggled sometimes with my salary I’d be roasted to a crisp.

Nowhere near London.

Report it then.

I wonder what subject you teach, OP. You seem to have a poor grasp of maths and logic if you think your salary is representative and that everybody can progress. We can't all be HODs and SLT, or we'd have nobody to cover the timetable.

I agree. I worked full time for a company dealing with the NHS (but not the NHS). I worked more hours than a teacher even if you take prep etc into consideration. I didn’t get school holidays off, I was on call too.

I earned £12k a year. This was maybe 8 years ago when I graduated. Even a teacher’s starting salary would have been amazing

Yeah I've been teaching primary for years and am way below that (just don't want to be a manager any more) I have been outpaced by most of my grad friends (apart from the nurses who don't want to be managers either!)

£47k is on leadership spine, point 8. For context, there are primary heads of schools on only a little more than this.

Teachers begin at £24,373 and have a basic scale to £35, 971.
After several more years of performance related pay and working in additional roles there is potential for a teacher to reach £40,490 by their mid thirties at the earliest.
Of course there are exceptions, but for classroom teachers these are rare.
The gov have changed the rules lately, so if you leave a job where the earned £40k the next school can put you anywhere they like between £24k and £40k, it's no longer possible to protect your pay.

So rubbish teachers stay where they are, and brilliant teachers leave the profession.

Newyear I had a TLR actually. I would have liked to progress eventually but my HOD, who was excellent, was going nowhere and I have become a SAHM.

So, are you saying, can we clarify... That people on lower salaries deserve it due to lack of their own ambition?

Your OP is just ridiculous. You say you're not being goady but you clearly are. You're not talking about a 'normal' teacher's salary, you're talking about a HOD salary, so presumably you've been a teacher for a while. And no, £22k for somebody who presumably at least has a degree and possibly further training is laughably low.