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Jolyon Maugham should be prosecuted for killing a fox

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halocompanach · 26/12/2019 11:41

Jolyon Maugham QC stating on twitter that he has clubbed to death a fox rather than calling for help to free it from netting in his garden.

Jolyon Maugham should be prosecuted for killing a fox
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LoveNote · 26/12/2019 12:42

wouldn't even think of posting on twitter upsetting the city dwellers though

why would you post that?

ManonBlackbeak · 26/12/2019 12:43

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FairyLightsAreMyCrack · 26/12/2019 12:45

Anyone here been in to a hen house after a fox has got in? No, thought not . . .

I have, but I still don't think it's ok to club an animal to death. The issue is not that the fox was killed, but that it was clubbed to death and suffered unnecessarily.

HeckyPeck · 26/12/2019 12:46

Don't you own animals? What do you think happens to cats and dogs when they are old and their quality of life deteriorates.

Well they don’t get clubbed to fucking death that’s for sure! What a bizarre thing to say.

chomalungma · 26/12/2019 12:46

ave, but I still don't think it's ok to club an animal to death

If an animal is in pain and won't survive, how would you kill it?

marvellousnightforamooncup · 26/12/2019 12:48

Jolyon Maugham for example, is a twat!

(old MN reference there)

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 26/12/2019 12:49

Did he stand there repeatedly smacking it with the bat or kill it with one single blow? Was it badly injured from being trapped in the netting? Did he definitely not call for help only to be told they wouldn't come out?

(I couldn't kill something like a fox mind you, much as they annoy me)

TwoMuchTwoYoung · 26/12/2019 12:50

If I found a fox trapped in my garden the last thing I would think to do would be to club it to death.
If I was a dickhead, and did club it to death, I wouldn’t be showing off about it on Twitter and joking about it.
What a complete tosser

FairyLightsAreMyCrack · 26/12/2019 12:51

If an animal is in pain and won't survive, how would you kill it?

That really depends on the animal.

I can't help but think if this were the case here he would have said so and not joked about it clubbing it to death afterwards.

chomalungma · 26/12/2019 12:51

I can't think why anyone would put this on Twitter though.

This was bound to get a reaction.

LookingGlassMilk · 26/12/2019 12:54

How does he know that the fox didn't identify as a chicken?

VivaLeBeaver · 26/12/2019 12:54

i grew up with nearby farms

So what? I grew up on a farm, does that mean my opinion trumps yours?

you have to kill animals.....its how it is

Totally agree. I’ve seen DH kill a rabbit with a rock that was staggering around with mixi. We were in the middle of nowhere, maybe 50 miles from a vet. It was quick, the rabbit was put out of it’s misery. Did it suffer briefly while having it’s head caved in? Probably? Was it the right thing to do? I think so.

But that’s very different from clubbing a healthy fox to death.

I’ve also killed cockerels in the past when I’ve had too many. Not something I felt good about and I’ve now stopped hatching out chicks because of this issue. But I’ve never clubbed a cockerel to death. Which is barbaric.

JockTamsonsBairns · 26/12/2019 12:57

Perhaps the most surprising thing about this is the RSPCA continuing to keep up the pretence of being an organisation that gives the remotest of shits about animals.

FairyLightsAreMyCrack · 26/12/2019 12:59

How does he know that the fox didn't identify as a chicken?

This is the Mumsnet version of Godwin's law. All conversations will eventually have references from the 'gender critical' crew Grin

NotYourHun · 26/12/2019 12:59

I wouldn’t think twice about killing a badly injured wild animal who was clearly beyond help. A swift whack to the head is usually sufficient. I don’t know if this was the case here but I don’t know if we can automatically condemn his actions. Things are quite different in the countryside to towns and cities and I think some people are a bit naive about things like this.

birdsdestiny · 26/12/2019 13:00

Yes thanks LoveNote, I now live in a small village having lived in the countryside for almost thirty years, never clubbed a fox to death. Jolyon lives in central London.

Wereallsquare · 26/12/2019 13:01

Who the fuck would want to be married to someone who clubs an animal to death? I would be very, very scared.

MitziK · 26/12/2019 13:02

Anyone here been in to a hen house after a fox has got in? No, thought not

Yes. And rabbits. Mainly because it proves there's been a failure of the humans responsible to properly secure the housing.

I find the results of dogs being allowed to 'play' in fields around lambing time or around the chickens distressing as well.

It has NEVER crossed my mind to beat a wild (or domestic) animal's head in as a result. maybe the dog owner's, though

So fuck off. There's absolutely zero justification for going all American Psycho on a defenceless, trapped animal.

halocompanach · 26/12/2019 13:05

He's now said on twitter that it's a baseball bat he bought to deter intruders, thus adding intent. For somebody who should be well versed in the law he's remarkably stupid.

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BellsAJingleTheRoastedChestnut · 26/12/2019 13:10

He is a revolting little dick who will do and say anything for attention. Pathetic oxygen thief. Wish he'd crawl back under his rock tbh.

MereDintofPandiculation · 26/12/2019 13:13

Foxes are not nice cuddly animals, they are vicious killers. You can't apply human morality to animals.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 26/12/2019 13:15

Foxes are not nice cuddly animals, they are vicious killers.

No, they are just predatory carnivores by nature. That's how they evolved - there's absolutely nothing 'vicious' about it, any more than an owl is 'vicious' towards the mice it kills

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 26/12/2019 13:16

I live rurally btw. No romanticising of nature here, but also no expectations that animals should adhere to human moral values.

CraicMammy · 26/12/2019 13:17

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/26/prominent-lawyer-jolyon-maugham-tweets-about-clubbing-a-fox-to-death?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Bet his family are loving him right now, thought you were going to have a nice quiet Boxing Day? Not when Jolyon has his kimono on.

MereDintofPandiculation · 26/12/2019 13:18

I wouldn’t think twice about killing a badly injured wild animal who was clearly beyond help. A swift whack to the head is usually sufficient.

But would you announce on Twitter that you'd done it?

It looked like a straight announcement, not a response to an ongoing conversation.