Lip Fillers

[Iwasneveragoddess]

What the fuck are these young women doing to their lips?

Saw a girl in Lidl today who clearly had naturally thin lips. Had a huge fillet in her top lip. All it looks like is someone with a huge filler, not someone with lovely generous lips, see it all the time and it looks horrific.

What happens when they hit 40?

How much does it cost?

Why are we all injecting shit into our faces?

@Ffsseriously Spot on, there is a lot of classism with this issue. Fine for the middle classes to get their hair expensively highlighted to be a completely different colour from their natural shade...but heaven forbid someone wants a fuller lip using a safe procedure! The horror! The mental gymnastics involved whilst clutching wildly at straws as to why one is so much less acceptable than the other is so amusing

Costs about £120-200 per go (anything between every 3 to every 12 months). Although I have had friends say they can get them for £70 (which means they're using dodgy filler as my sister - a cosmetic doctor- says that it costs a minimum of £80 for the good product alone.

Lots of people my age do have it, I'm 24, and while I personally can't stand them (not a fan of needles and I get split lips quite often and am ok with small but well formed lips) you have to let them live their lives. They can always have them dissolved.

Plus, this is what an increasingly image obsessed society causes - caused by the marketers and media execs not by the 18 year olds who think they are insufficient without adjustment.

My sister does them very skilfully and they are almost imperceptible... plus she can treat any adverse reactions quickly and the client can rely on her insurance if anything goes wrong because she's an actual doctor.

There do need to be rules about fillers - only medical professionals or trained aestheticians with specific training should be allowed to do it.

I absolutely love mine, been getting them done for a few years and can5 imagine myself to stop.

They are not massive though, just more defined and plump

I pay £249 for 1ml of filler, frankly I wouldn't go anywhere near anyone who would do it for £120.

For that price I'd expect to be injected with god-knows-what in some dodgy woman's conservatory...

The thought of someone sticking a needle in my lips makes my stomach go all shuddery.

actually I think stripy highlights, fake blonde and obvious roots also look rough as guts, however posh the bird concerned.

I don't get worked up over how people want to look, but I do hate that fillers exist because of the dangers of them. I know a couple of nurses who make extra money to do aesthetic procedures (there are training courses for staff who already have medical qualifications). They'll all do Botox but only one does fillers and it's because of the risks they carry and the likelihood of reactions (even when using the more expensive products)

I pay £240 for 1ml of filler this shows how the beauty industry has cashed in on this trend. What a bloody waste of money for 1 drop of liquid every few weeks. The mark up on this product/service is obscene.
cavabien Please don't be tempted to go for the enormous lips you say you're tempted to have but not brave enough (yet) unless you want the baggy mouth deflated lip look in older age?

Also not sure why you're so defensive and angry? It's possible to debate issues without taking everything personally. I hated the way you sneered at and belittled other posters. Saying FUCK this and FUCK that doesn't win you a debate.

As for your flippant comments about "shrugging and carrying on your day" if your (hopefully hypothetical) daughters wanted a blown up mouth? Unbelievable

@SmileyClare

Totally.

Markup, as well as years of training studying faces. I don't go to any random, I go to a dentist. I can easily afford it without it making a noticeable dent in my budget, so, you know, the money argument is a weak one. :)

Yet I'm sure we are all horrified at Tudor women painting their faces with lead, Chinese women binding their feet, Victorians deforming their bodies with corsets. All hugely damaging in the name of fashion.

I wonder how people in centuries to come will view women now - pumping up their faces and bodies with acids, plastics and silicone, and injecting themselves with poison.

Lip fillers don't even look good. People don't realise, because they don't look at themselves from the side. It's always obvious.

Personally I think that plastic surgery should be only for if the person has real issues about their body, and even then they should be ordered to have mandatory counselling before it is granted.

It’s a for-profit procedure 100%. Nothing medical should be for-profit. It disturbs me that like @ChristmasFluff says, we’ll all express dismay at Chinese foot-binding but can’t see this is the same. I bet a lot of those women also truly believed it was entirely their choice to have it done.

@ActualHornist you do know that Chinese foot binding was performed on children don’t you in a massively patriarchal society where women had little/no rights? To compare that to adult women deciding to have procedures that wear off and are not permanently crippling isn’t right

Yes I do know that.

My point is that in a patriarchal society female persons - child or adult - sometimes believe they are agreeing to something completely without influence. They would be wrong.

Fillers are like tattoos. You need to pay good money to get good ones and nothing wrong with that. But so many women spoil their look and end up looking like ducks. Why? A pretty face becomes horrible like they have done it in some council estate back alley with a dodgy 'beauty therapist'.

@Actualhornist - sorry your analogy doesn’t stand. A) Children can’t have Botox or fillers. B) Chinese children had no say in whether their feet were bound. C) Botox/fillers wear off, having your feet crushed doesn’t.

Of course some women are influenced by the media or by society’s definition of beauty. However, the same influences could make a woman decide to dye her grey hair, buy expensive moisturiser etc ...

Well we’re all entitled to our opinions aren’t we @strongmummy.

I agree with your further points. But this thread is about lip fillers. Hence why I didn’t mention all those other things.

This whole thing smacks of personal opinions being blown up and eclipsing fact. Not all fillers are awful (PPs including me can vouch for that). Not all botox is awful (PPs and I can vouch for that too). The crazy claims that it's all 'so obvious' and is 'dangerous' are nothing but bullshit if you make the right choices. I get botox and fillers from a dentist. I'm 41 and like others have said, nobody has noticed mine other than a few folk thinking I look fresh! Each to their own, do or don't, but let's not talk nonsense and judge. Merry Christmas!

Yours is also opinion Suntan. Aside maybe from the ‘dangerous’ claim. Although I’d say it’s dangerous in a mental health kind of way.

We're not talking about subtle work that makes you look "fresh faced" though are we?

The thread was about women with enormous over inflated lips as per OP's example. We've all come across that look and thought "woah! What on earth are they thinking?!"

Yes it's their body, their choice etc but come on it looks absurd and it's awful that people will be doing double takes, sniggering or feeling sorry for them.

@smilleyclare I think some on this thread don’t like “work” of any kind.

But for all these posters saying they go to an expensive professional so no one can tell - how do you explain Nicole Kidman, Kylie Minogue, Madonna, the list goes on and on? There is no way these wealthy women are doing it on the cheap, but they look the opposite to 'natural' and fresh'.

Good point @TheNavigator How come so many A-listers have obvious work?

They've not gone for the fish look but you can still tell the likes of Sienna Miller, Jenifer Aniston, Behati Prinsloo, Gisele have had lip fillers.

I was in Superdrug earlier and one of the young girls working there looked like a cartoon character: her lips were huge, bulbous balloons and her extremely pretty face was covered in fake tan/ very dark make-up, black-lined eyes and contoured, white cheeks and nose. Her choice, but how on Earth can she look in the mirror and think she looks better than she would without all that stuff on her lovely, young, smooth skin.

My DS ( adhd/ asd, so very little filter) asked once we'd left " Why does that person have an orange, white and black face? Is it face painting?".

I worry so much that young women have such pressure to look like this and young men think that it's preferable.