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To agree with JK Rowling?

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StraightenUpAndFryRight · 20/12/2019 09:22

mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

‘Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill’

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JanesKettle · 21/12/2019 21:52

Personally, my inner identity, strongly and genuinely held, is Scottish. I'm an Aussie who's only visited twice. (I have a Scottish great-grandmother/father/million other rellos though, so dare I say, have genetic and cultural links).

I am sad I cannot live in Scotland. I am sad I cannot vote in Scottish elections or referendum. I am sad I cannot work in Scotland.

Oh well. I'd better bloody well get on with it and find another way to deal with my sadness, because I'm not a bloody Scot.

Men are not women.
Transwomen are not women.
Non-binary males are not women.

I am so tired of the wankery that insists we must pretend the opposite. I am quite capable of respecting a respect-inducing transwoman as a transitioned male, without having to pretend and speak lies.

SunsetOnTheHorizon · 21/12/2019 21:55

#IStandWithMaya

We should be able to publicly voice our opinions.

YANBU

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 21:56

I mean, I would laugh if I came home to find that. It's funny. I'd want to see what she came up with the next week.

I'd helpfully leave fridge magnets out, honestly.

Meanwhile, everyone continues to understand what's being demanded by trans activists, and the answer is still "no".

VMisaMarshmallow · 21/12/2019 21:59

Scots argument doesn’t work. Us Scots say anyone who loves Scotland and has irn bru in their veins can be Scottish. Except the English of course ; )

True Scotsman works though, men in skirts who still know they are men. Sign of a real man to us Scots.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:02

anyone who loves Scotland and has irn bru in their veins can be Scottish. Except the English of course

Well, and that American blogger who was banging on about Brave being racist against Scots because she has Scottish ancestors a few generations back or whatever. Can we vote her off the island?

JanesKettle · 21/12/2019 22:05

Us Scots say anyone who loves Scotland and has irn bru in their veins can be Scottish

Sadly, immigration says no :(

But I am Scottish in my heart :)

VMisaMarshmallow · 21/12/2019 22:06

Along with the many Americans I’ve met out with Scotland- ‘you’re Scottish. So am I, you must know my cousin John McDonald then?’

VMisaMarshmallow · 21/12/2019 22:06

All the best people are Janes.

BarbaraStrozzi · 21/12/2019 22:08

I am using the virtual hide poster button. It's a very useful entirely imaginary facility that FWR has (if I remember aright, started by StewieGriffinsMom many years back).

Meanwhile on the subject of penises/penii/Latin, I have always been tickled by the fact that Latin has a diminutive for penis, "mentulla."

JanesKettle · 21/12/2019 22:09

This should probably be a s/o, but I wonder if all the Maya haters have a list of acceptable contexts for a woman to say no to a man.

Because that's all that's happening, really. Some women are saying, look, dress how you like, present as you like, lovely, great, but you can't change sex, sorry. And sometimes - not often - but occasionally - sex matters.

It's just a 'no' for a reason. (I mean, for Maya, it was stats!)

And apparently that 'no' is unacceptable in a democratic society.

So yeah, wondering if there's a list someone the men have come up with that tells us bigoted women when 'no' is actually allowed.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:09

An American once asked me if we had running water in Scotland.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:10

Hmm. Is your "no" being stated in the service of a man, even if not the one you're currently speaking to? May be acceptable. Otherwise nope.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:11

Latin has a diminutive for penis

Your Latin lessons were clearly more fun than mine. Is that a cute way to say penis or a way to indicate that it's a little one?

BarbaraStrozzi · 21/12/2019 22:17

Good question...

I'm guessing from context "cute one":
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Catullus_105

The Muses sound my kind of women!

BarbaraStrozzi · 21/12/2019 22:19

A bit more digging suggests it was a vulgarism - probably "prick" might be another translation. There appear to be lengthy scholarly papers on its usage!

VMisaMarshmallow · 21/12/2019 22:27

Kittens of course we do, but it’s brought to us by the faeries as they catch the rain drops from the heather. It can take them some time to come all the way down the mountains though, hence why we drink so much irn bru.

Last thing we need is anyone knowing we have amenities, the pile in will be huge and it’s in our blood to welcome all types*.

*except the English of course.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:32

My DH comes out with "bugger the English!" randomly at times*. Perhaps letting him get drunk with my dad was a poor decision?

*Since we have an officially humor free person in the thread and probably several more lurking please note that no actual harm to any English people is implied or intended. Though Dad may refuse to share his whisky.

EvenSupposing · 21/12/2019 22:36

Honestly It's not even a conversation we need to have. It's not a word like 'Scottish' It's a word like 'mammal'. It's not up for debate and if you engage you just encourage the idea that it is.

So

JOHNSON

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 21/12/2019 22:36

TWAT

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 21/12/2019 22:37

Oh wait

You meant penis and i meant boris

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:39

I still thing "angry Cabbage Patch kid" was the best description.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 22:40

I think the way people are responding to the "point" about being Scottish indicates how seriously we're taking it.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 21/12/2019 22:45

Cauliflower!

HotSince82 · 21/12/2019 22:47

Your emotionally held beliefs cannot fundamentally change your biological/physical state, no matter how much you want them to.

Think about all the people with cancer, MS, MND and other life limiting/threatening illnesses. If their beliefs could somehow influence their bological state then they could 'think/believe themselves well.'
Sadly they can't.

By the same token men cannot simply believe themselves to be women and expect their biological physicality to follow suit. It simply won't.

The very idea is ludicrous.

JanesKettle · 21/12/2019 22:48

Am serious about my Scots identity...sorry...slinks away....