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Boris Watch - Thread 1

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chomalungma · 17/12/2019 19:11

Well, it's been done for Trump since he got elected.
No doubt some people will complain it's on AIBU - but it's a place with traffic.

So let's use this to keep an eye on the changes under Boris.

First Thing:

Boris introduces clause in the withdrawal agreement so the UK must leave with WTO rules if there is no trade agreement with the EU by the end of 2020

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/17/pound-slides-to-pre-election-levels-in-wake-of-bid-to-outlaw-brexit-extension

Feel free to comment and add things that you notice changing. The Trump threads are at 97 now.

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HeIenaDove · 28/12/2019 02:50

Not Boris i know but IDS is getting a knighthood.

nothingwittyhere · 28/12/2019 10:28

Doesn't the PM put people forward for these higher honours? So totally johnson in that case.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 28/12/2019 22:59

Yes, the List is compiled by "ministers" (the PM)

Shame the Queen doesn't have power of veto, but she doesn't, just performs the formalities.

She must be so tempted to let that sword slip sometimes!

nextdecade · 30/12/2019 13:50

I see the great sell off of the NHS has started https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/private-firms-invited-run-nhs-21178712.amp?twitterr_impression=true

I feel sad so many people believed the lies.

HeIenaDove · 30/12/2019 17:00

Unfortunately people believe what they want to believe and its usually what suits their wallet.

chomalungma · 31/12/2019 07:08

National Minimum Wage to increase from April

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/31/boris-johnson-to-raise-minimum-wages-by-four-times-inflation

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HeIenaDove · 05/01/2020 01:52

Of course with most of the British press how the fuck will we notice the difference.

lonelyplanetmum · 06/01/2020 11:45

After leaving matters to Raab during the (holiday related?) delay Boris Johnson has now commented on the US / Iran situation.

Good he mentioned both Macron/Merkel and not just Trump I suppose?

Exact words were "Today I have spoken with President Macron, President Trump and Chancellor Merkel, and will be speaking with other leaders in the coming days.
"General Qassem Soleimani posed a threat to all our interests and was responsible for a pattern of disruptive, destabilising behaviour in the region.
"Given the leading role he has played in actions that have led to the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians and western personnel, we will not lament his death.
"It is clear however that all calls for retaliation or reprisals will simply lead to more violence in the region and they are in no-one's interest."
"We are in close contact with all sides to encourage de-escalation.
"I will be speaking to other leaders and our Iraqi friends to support peace and stability."

yolofish · 07/01/2020 20:43

BJ apparently still on holiday today, hence why not in the HoC. I guess that forum is only for the little people, as he is far too busy running the country? (snort)

yolofish · 14/01/2020 12:36

This has gone quiet... but isnt it great to see that BJ is singlehandedly responsible for the restoration of Stormont? (sarcasm alert). Seriously, going to Eton and having a penis turns one into a super hero.

funnelfanjo · 15/01/2020 10:24

Vanity projects strike again. He wants to spend half a million quid and disrupt refurbishment works so that Big Ben will strike on 31 January to mark Brexit. Or, in his words, “working up a plan so that people can bung a bob for a Big Ben bong, because there are some people who want to”. Biscuit is the only coherent reaction I have.

TheMustressMhor · 15/01/2020 17:22

The thread is very quiet at the moment.

Harry and Meghan are occupying many people's minds.

Meanwhile, Johnson is asking the loyal populace to stump up half a million quid so that Big Ben can chime to signal that Brexit has happened.

Good grief.

nothingwittyhere · 15/01/2020 20:29

The European rounded up some decent Twitter reactions to this insanity, eg:
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/daily-express-big-ben-must-bong-for-brexit-cover-1-6466538

I like the one suggesting it chimes 13 Smile

HeIenaDove · 16/01/2020 23:50

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/grenfell-johnson-appoints-engineer-with-links-to-the-firm-that-made-the-tower-cladding-to-the-inquiry

Grenfell: Johnson appoints engineer with links to the firm that made the tower's cladding to the inquiry
Former Labour MP Emma Dent Coad tells the Star that the PM has driven the ‘final nail in the coffin’ of justice

"BORIS JOHNSON has driven the “final nail in the coffin” of justice for the victims of Grenfell by appointing an engineer to the fire inquiry who has links to the firm which made the tower’s cladding, former Kensington MP Emma Dent Coad told the Star today.

Mr Johnson picked Benita Mehra last month to assist Sir Martin Moore-Bick, who is leading the inquiry into the June 2017 disaster that killed 72 people.

Ms Mehra previously ran the Women’s Engineering Society, which received a £71,000 grant from the charitable arm of Arconic, the US-based maker of the aluminium composite cladding that fuelled the Grenfell fire.

She will be one of two experts helping Mr Moore-Bick with at least 18 months of hearings into the events leading up to the fire.

Ms Dent Coad, who lost her seat last month, said people affected by the fire have now abandoned all hope that the second phase of the inquiry will bring any justice.

“They ripped the firefighters to shreds in the first phase and now what I hear from people in the community is that this is proof that it is — as we feared — an Establishment stitch-up,” she said.

“People are in shock but will be regrouping and planning over the next few days. We were told over and over again that we should trust the process — but we can’t.

“The appointment is the last thing we want to hear. The whole idea of the second phase has been so invested in and for this to come about is horrific.”

Grenfell United vice-chair Karim Mussilhy, who lost his uncle in the fire, is calling for Ms Mehra to stand down before hearings restart on January 27. He described the appointment as a “disgrace.”

A spokesperson for the inquiry said it was confident that Ms Mehra’s former role would “not affect her impartiality"

HeIenaDove · 17/01/2020 00:15

HeIenaDove Fri 17-Jan-20 00:11:05
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/16/benita-mehra-grenfell-inquiry-boris-johnson-appoints-engineer-with-links-to-cladding-firm

Boris Johnson's pick to help lead Grenfell inquiry linked to cladding firm
Exclusive: Survivors and bereaved call Benita Mehra appointment ‘a slap in the face.
Boris Johnson appointed a key figure to the Grenfell Tower inquiry who has links to the company which made the cladding blamed for accelerating the fatal fire, the Guardian can reveal.

Last month, the prime minister picked Benita Mehra, an engineer, to assist Sir Martin Moore-Bick, a retired judge who is leading the inquiry into the disaster that claimed 72 lives. Mehra previously ran an organisation that received a £71,000 grant from the charitable arm of Arconic, the US conglomerate that made the aluminium composite cladding panels used on Grenfell.

The inquiry has already found that Arconic’s polyethelyne-filled panels were “the principal reason why the flames spread so rapidly up the building”. The Arconic Foundation’s board of directors includes several senior Arconic executives and its stated goal is to support the company’s mission by making grants in countries where it trades.

Survivors and the bereaved said the grant created a clear conflict of interest and described Mehra’s appointment as “a slap in the face” for their hopes of justice. Grenfell United is calling for Mehra to stand down before hearings restart on 27 January with an examination of how the Arconic cladding panels were chosen, their safety testing, marketing and promotion. Mehra is one of two experts selected to help Moore-Bick preside over at least 18 months of hearings into the events leading up to the fire.

“How can she sit next to Sir Martin Moore-Bick when Arconic will be on the stand and is one of the organisations we need answers from in terms of what caused the deaths of our loved ones?” asked Karim Mussilhy, the vice-chair of the survivors and bereaved group GU. “Her society has been supported by Arconic. She will look at it from the perspective of Arconic doing good things for the industry, that they are a great organisation. Her perspective will be affected.”

The Arconic Foundation grant was awarded to the Women’s Engineering Society charity, which Mehra chaired from 2015 and 2018. She helped draft the application and the funds arrived three months after Grenfell in 2017, the charity confirmed. It was the largest grant received that year. Mehra remains a trustee.

The link is particularly sensitive because anger is running high among many survivors at the role played by manufacturers of the combustible cladding and insulation materials used to reclad the tower during its 2016 refurbishment. The families of 69 victims and 177 survivors are separately suing Arconic and other materials manufacturers in the US courts for wrongful death. It has argued any litigation should take place in the UK. The UK government has also banned the use of such panels on high-rise residential buildings.

A spokesperson for the inquiry said it was “confident that Benita Mehra’s former presidency of the Women’s Engineering Society does not affect her impartiality as a panel member”.

A Cabinet Office spokesperson said there were “robust processes … [to ensure] any potential conflicts of interest are properly considered and managed”.

“The Arconic Foundation donated to a specific scheme which provides mentoring for women in engineering and is unrelated to the issues being considered by the inquiry,” they said.

The inquiry concluded in October that Arconic’s panels were the main cause of the spread of fire that engulfed the full height of the 24-storey tower in less that 30 minutes on 14 June 2017. Moore-Bick said the panels “melted and acted as a source of fuel for the growing fire”.

“We will be absolutely furious if she is on the platform and it would be morally wrong to keep this person there,” said Mussilhy. “The report from the first phase of the inquiry restored a little bit of confidence. This has taken us 10 steps backwards.”

Mehra’s appointment was quietly announced by Downing Street just before Christmas on 23 December, in a move suspected by some of the bereaved and survivors to have been an attempt to avoid public scrutiny and possible legal challenge. Johnson said at the time that Cabinet Office officials had conducted due diligence about Mehra’s appointment, “which has not identified any concerns”.

He told Moore-Bick in a letter: “The [Inquiries] Act is also clear that I must not appoint … a person who has a close association with an interested party unless those links could not reasonably be regarded as affecting the impartiality of the inquiry panel.”

He said: “Ms Mehra has confirmed that she is not aware of any conflict of interest.”

Mehra was a late replacement for Prof Nabeel Hamdi, an expert in housing and planning issues who survivors hoped could better understand the tensions between the council landlord and the tenants that preceded the disaster than Moore-Bick, whose expertise is in construction contracts. Johnson provided no explanation for the move apart from saying Hamdi “was unable to proceed with the appointment”. The Cabinet Office said this week that Hamdi had reflected on the commitment required and decided to withdraw.

Concerned that Mehra lacked his expertise in community relations, Grenfell United decided to investigate her background and found details of the Arconic Foundation’s grant in the annual report and accounts of the Women’s Engineering Society.

The inquiry panel was only introduced by Theresa May after months of pressure from survivors backed by the musician Stormzy to appoint people who understand “the culture at the heart of how people living in social housing are treated

A spokesperson for Arconic said the foundation was an independently endowed and managed foundation, with a core goal to advance science, technology, engineering, and mathematics education and training worldwide and create access to these fields for girls and women internationally.

“The grant we awarded in 2017 to this particular UK association was purely on this basis,” they said"

HeIenaDove · 17/01/2020 18:11

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/17/grenfell-johnson-urged-to-ditch-panelist-with-links-to-cladding-firm

Grenfell inquiry: Hillsborough families back calls for PM to ditch panelist
Appointment of panelist with links to cladding firm criticised as ‘absolutely ridiculous
The Hillsborough families have backed calls for Boris Johnson to cancel his appointment of a Grenfell inquiry panelist found to have links to the company that made the combustible cladding.

Margaret Aspinall, the chair of the Hillsborough family support group, criticised the prime minister’s selection of Benita Mehra as “absolutely ridiculous”, after the Guardian revealed she led a charity that received £71,000 from the Arconic Foundation, the charitable arm of the company that made the panels that were the main cause of fire spread.

Mehra, an engineer and one of two experts due to sit alongside the inquiry chairman, Sir Martin Moore-Bick, when the inquiry’s hearings restart in nine days, declined to comment. The inquiry insisted her former role “does not affect her impartiality as a panel member”.

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“The families have a right to say we are not accepting this.” said Aspinall, warning of the danger of a repeat of the decades-long search for truth endured by the families of 96 Liverpool fans who died in a crush at a 1989 FA Cup semi-final.

“How can we get to the truth when there is someone on the panel with this association? I would hate for them to go through what we had to go through, but it looks like it is going to happen.”

Between 2015 and 2018, Mehra was president of the Women’s Engineering Society charity when it received a grant from the Arconic Foundation. Arconic made the panels, which the inquiry has already concluded were the primary cause of the spread of the fire that claimed 72 lives at Grenfell

Aspinall’s intervention added to growing pressure on Johnson before the inquiry restarts hearings with sessions examining the selection of the cladding panels, their fire-testing, marketing and promotion
The shadow housing secretary, John Healey, said Mehra’s appointment “undermines public confidence” and should be reversed. The London mayor, Sadiq Khan, said it was a “major blow” for the Grenfell community and Deborah Coles, of the justice charity Inquest, said it was “shameful”.

“Any perception of bias at a time when there needs to be the most searching scrutiny of Arconic undermines trust and confidence,” Coles said. “Yet again, the inquiry process is found wanting and it is those most affected left fighting for an inquiry that can deliver truth and accountability.”

On Thursday night, Johnson told Grenfell survivors and families of the victims he would investigate her appointment. Making a switch before the inquiry is due to restart will not be easy as any replacement will face intense scrutiny and must be able to commit to at least 18 months of hearings.

Mohamed Ragab, whose nephew Hesham Rahman died in the fire, was at the pre-planned meeting with Johnson at Downing Street. He said: “[Johnson] said he had no idea about this woman dealing with this company,” he said. “He said he would have to investigate and find out what is going on.”

In December, the prime minister wrote to Moore-Bick stating: “I am proposing that Benita Mehra, an experienced chartered engineer replace [Professor Nabeel Hamdi, who decided to withdraw]”.

Another source at the meeting said: “I raised the subject of Benita Mehra with him and [Johnson] didn’t seem to know who she is. I told the story from the Guardian and how she accepted the £71,000 donation from Arconic [Foundation] and it was surely a conflict of interest and … she shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the inquiry. He promised that this would definitely be investigated and that anything that causes us discomfort should not be allowed to happen.

David Lammy MP, who has long supported the Grenfell community, said the situation was “scandalous”.

“Grenfell survivors are right to describe this appointment as a slap in the face,” the Labour MP for Tottenham wrote on Twitter. “Mehra must stand down so there is no conflict of interest. The 72 who died in the fire deserve justice.”

Before the link to the US firm’s charity arm emerged, Mehra’s appointment had angered some in the Grenfell community. She replaced another expert, Hamdi, who had greater experience of social housing and community relations, which some believe is lacking in the inquiry leadership.

Grenfell United, the group representing survivors and the bereaved that first discovered Mehra’s link to Arconic, has insisted her position represents a conflict of interest and called for her to stand down.

A Cabinet Office spokesperson said there were “robust processes … [to ensure] any potential conflicts of interest are properly considered and managed”.

The link is particularly sensitive because anger is running high among many survivors at the role played by manufacturers of the combustible cladding and insulation materials used to re-clad the tower during its 2016 refurbishment
The families of 69 victims and 177 survivors are separately suing Arconic and other materials manufacturers in the US courts for wrongful death. It has argued any litigation should take place in the UK. The UK government has also banned the use of such panels on high-rise residential buildings.

Downing Street declined to comment on what Johnson said about Mehra in what it described as a private meeting.

However, it said in a statement: “The prime minister reaffirmed his commitment to getting to the truth of what happened, learn lessons and deliver justice for victims. During the meeting, they reflected on the phase one report of the Grenfell inquiry, and looked ahead to the next stage

Figmentofmyimagination · 18/01/2020 09:13

It’s going to be a car crash -
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/18/savid-javid-warns-there-will-be-no-alignment-on-eu-regulations-after-brexit

Javid says manufacturers can suck it up since they’ve had ‘three years to prepare’. Hmmm two and a half of those years were spent under a PM committed to the closest alignment. What a twat.

Loving the aspiration for Brexit to be on the business pages, not the front pages. That surely depends on whether it’s an economic car crash for these sectors.

KenDodd · 19/01/2020 22:54

Any news on when we might see the Russian report?

yolofish · 19/01/2020 23:30

Did anyone mention the Russian report? Meanwhile Haz 'n Megz take the headlines.

Sajid Javid (I cannot call him 'the Saj') says that many businesses will struggle due to their failure to adapt... what on earth were they meant to adapt TO?

yolofish · 20/01/2020 22:56

The period poverty programme is an excellent idea. I believe it has been previously funded by charities, hope the govt is stepping up here with actual real dosh which will reach those who need it ?

Jason118 · 21/01/2020 07:22

It is an excellent idea. It's a shame that they don't also have an everything poverty programme, so we don't need specific initiatives. It's a good idea from a publicity point of view. Let's make people poor, then give them something to alleviate one aspect of their plight. They will be eternally grateful and vote for us. Or I could be an old cynic.