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Boris Watch - Thread 1

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chomalungma · 17/12/2019 19:11

Well, it's been done for Trump since he got elected.
No doubt some people will complain it's on AIBU - but it's a place with traffic.

So let's use this to keep an eye on the changes under Boris.

First Thing:

Boris introduces clause in the withdrawal agreement so the UK must leave with WTO rules if there is no trade agreement with the EU by the end of 2020

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/17/pound-slides-to-pre-election-levels-in-wake-of-bid-to-outlaw-brexit-extension

Feel free to comment and add things that you notice changing. The Trump threads are at 97 now.

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TheElementsSong · 22/12/2019 08:03

Just a reminder: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.

frumpety · 22/12/2019 08:14

Would those hospitals be the ones funded by loans from the EIB which we will no longer have access to after Brexit Ibiza2015 ?

growinganotherhead · 22/12/2019 08:40

I can't remember ever being this scared for the future. This man has never been held to account for anything he has done. Unfettered power and enormous hubris are not a good mix. The more reasonable tories have been removed. He will push through everything he wants then move on as he has in his private life. Thank you for starting this post I will be following.

SecondaryBurnzzz · 22/12/2019 09:40

Me too growinganotherhead. I’m just trying to ignore it all now as I can’t actually do anything about it. I’ve marched, voted, signed every petition known to man and still it’s all going ahead.

OLDquestion · 22/12/2019 10:51

Time for all the moderates who were kicked out of or who left Parliament to start their own grassroots party. I wish. The voting system makes everything so hard.

I know this is not the thread for this but the sooner the Labour Party gets its act together, the better.

ListeningQuietly · 22/12/2019 17:05

The electorate vote a person out of office
Johnson decides to make him a Peer (£300 a day just for walking through the door)
and keeps him on as a minister
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50868906
Democracy ??????

Ibiza2015 · 22/12/2019 18:00

The electorate vote a person out of office
Johnson decides to make him a Peer (£300 a day just for walking through the door)

Yeah, Shami Chakrabarti was give. A peerage for whitewashing Labour anti-semitism.

ListeningQuietly · 22/12/2019 18:04

Ibiza
Where was Shami the MP for ?
What was the majority against her at a general election ?

what Labour did was shabby, but it did not actively reject an electoral result

Peregrina · 22/12/2019 18:33

Johnson decides to make him a Peer (£300 a day just for walking through the door) and keeps him on as a minister

Theresa May did this also in 2017 when we booted out Nicola Blackwood, but again Labour are not averse to pulling the same trick as they did with Oona King.

As for Nicky Morgan taking Johnson's shilling - not IMO a woman with many principles. At least Ed Vaizey, the ex MP for Wantage, kicked out of the party by Johnson, but then let back in at the last moment, had sufficient integrity not to stand again. Not that it stopped his last minute replacement getting in - pig with blue rosette territory.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 22/12/2019 22:10

This man has never been held to account for anything he has done

Ummm, I must have missed the past week. Wasn't he held to account, by his employers, in a general election? Has happened a few times recently. Democracy is a bitch.

ssd · 23/12/2019 00:50

So is karma.

TheElementsSong · 23/12/2019 06:45

Just a reminder - Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.

chomalungma · 23/12/2019 08:40

Meanwhile, ISIS are reforming in Iraq

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50850325

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CendrillonSings · 23/12/2019 12:09

Just dropping in a good news story for Christmas. Who’d have guessed that seeing off socialism and the Brexit deadlock in a single day would massively boost business confidence? Smile

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/23/poll-shows-highest-uk-business-confidence-levels-for-three-years

Business confidence in the British economy has leaped to its highest level for more than three years following the Conservatives’ election win, according to a survey of company directors.

For the first time since spring 2018, firms have become optimistic about the economic outlook, with a key confidence measure swinging into positive territory and hitting 21% in December, up from -18% in November.

That is the highest figure since the 2016 EU referendum, according to the Institute of Directors (IoD), which polled members in the days following the election. It added that Boris Johnson’s new majority government meant company directors, whatever their personal views, now had a framework around which they could put in place plans to invest, hire staff and expand.

Alsohuman · 23/12/2019 12:12

I thought you were giving gloating a miss until the New Year. You just can’t help yourself, can you?

CendrillonSings · 23/12/2019 12:16

Oh do stop being boring, Alsohuman. I posted a good news story relevant to the thread and I’m not going to be silenced by you.

Stinkyeddie · 23/12/2019 12:18

I'd love to know who is investing in the uk now...

US pharma by any chance???

Catsingangs · 23/12/2019 12:34

Happy Christmas cendrillon, glad to hear business is feeling confident. That will certainly help the woman in this story.
www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/23/a-tale-of-two-cities-londons-rich-and-poor-in-tower-hamlets

chomalungma · 23/12/2019 13:16

Following on that Guardian article

"But the organisation warned that the uncertainty surrounding the UK’s long-term relationship with Europe remained a cause for concern, adding: “Our members’ confidence has proven sensitive to Brexit developments over the past few years, and this is likely to continue during negotiations in the year ahead.”

Directors at larger businesses tended to be more optimistic about prospects for the economy over the next 12 months. The data showed that company directors have also become more upbeat about their own firm’s prospects, with this figure increasing to 46% from 26% a month earlier.
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This pick-up in confidence was accompanied by a “significant” increase in firms’ investment intentions for 2020. A net balance of 18% expected their investment levels to increase, though the bulk of those quizzed also expected to be hit with higher costs over the next 12 months. The directors’ body said this indicated that the new government “has its work cut out” to support the labour market and cut firms’ mounting bills."

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Jason118 · 23/12/2019 13:17

But the organisation warned that the uncertainty surrounding the UK’s long-term relationship with Europe remained a cause for concern, adding: “Our members’ confidence has proven sensitive to Brexit developments over the past few years, and this is likely to continue during negotiations in the year ahead.”

Some additional context to the good news on business.

Jason118 · 23/12/2019 13:17

X post, doh!

HeIenaDove · 23/12/2019 17:01

HeIenaDove Mon 23-Dec-19 16:58:25
HelenaDove Mon 23-Sep-19 19:10:46
So sorry to hear this today. Martha and other staff who work for the company i hope you find something very soon.

There are members of staff who have worked for this company for years...............decades, who will now be applying for Universal Credit and will unfortunately find that benefits have changed in the last several years.

How long will it be before they are being treated as scroungers?

Seems the answer to that question is........................

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50885242

Thomas Cook staff say 'benefits system has failed them'
By Simon Browning
Business reporter
23 December 2019

When Thomas Cook collapsed three months ago, staff like Betty Knight, who had worked as cabin crew for 12 years, thought they'd be able to fall back on the welfare system.

But she was left bewildered. When she needed help she struggled to get it. Her application for job seeker's allowance was repeatedly declined.

She's one of dozens who have contacted the BBC in the same situation.

"I've worked hard. I've done everything expected of me to contribute to our society, but when I needed the Department for Work and Pensions, I haven't been able to access that. It left me reeling."

After being out of work for 11 weeks, Betty has now received around five weeks' of benefits.

Lots of her former Thomas Cook colleagues are in worse situations, telling us they have received nothing and have been poorly advised by their job centres. It stems from confusion over whether they are entitled to job seeker's allowance or universal credit as the tour operator's administration process remains ongoing.

Take Ian Begg who worked as a cabin manager for 14 years. "When we lost Thomas Cook we were just left to go out to pasture," he says. "My treatment by the job centre has felt like I've been thrown out again. They made me feel not worthy of benefits."

He was initially told to claim for universal credit which would have a five week processing time. During that five week period, he travelled to Manchester from his parents' house in Scotland for a weekly appointment at the job centre.

However, a day before the first payment was due, his claim was cancelled because he had received a one-off payment from the liquidators of Thomas Cook. He was then advised he should have applied for job seeker's allowance.

Mistakes mean claims being cancelled and long waits to recoup missed payments.

Other former staff have worse stories to tell but are afraid to speak out in case it affects their benefits claims
Ian has worked all his life and, like Betty, expected to be able to access state support after he was made redundant. He's now given up, and is using his savings and support from his family to live on, before he starts a new job with another airline in 2020.

Rebecca, another former Thomas Cook worker, was heavily pregnant when the firm collapsed. Any prospect of receiving maternity benefits from the company vanished, so she applied for state support.

Eight weeks after applying, however, the claim was cancelled because she'd been sent the wrong paperwork. She's now waiting for a new application to be processed.

"Due to the stress of everything, and the lack of help, I have found myself on anti-depressants and unable to enjoy Christmas and time with my baby," she says.

'The system has failed us'
Ian Begg says he too suffered mental health problems following the firm's failure. "For about two weeks after the collapse, I couldn't even get dressed. I couldn't face the world and stayed indoors. I had anxiety and was depressed."

Ian is managing to slowly move forwards, but many of his former colleagues are still having a tough time, he says, and the difficulties around accessing welfare support have made it worse. "It's wrong, the system has failed us

Betty Knight is in contact with hundreds of former colleagues through Facebook and WhatsApp support groups. They are a close-knit community.

One friend and her partner who both worked for Thomas Cook, say they were kicked out of their flat because the landlord knew they would struggle to pay the rent. They are now using their redundancy money to pay for a B&B. Betty says they feel trapped, unable to secure new accommodation or work.

Thomas Cook staff forced to turn to family for cash
Thomas Cook's new owner creates 1,500 new jobs
She reports other cases of former colleagues made homeless and living in shelters after landlords refused to allow them to stay on while they tried to find new employment.

Some former Thomas Cook employees have fared better. Ian Houlihan was a Thomas Cook pilot for more than 20 years. "I've been lucky, my job centre in Chorley has been great. I've had access to training. But my other colleagues have been treated appallingly.

Lots of staff talk about the huge disparities between what is on offer between different job centres.

Adele (not her real name) worked as cabin crew for 20 years. When she lost her job at Thomas Cook she was offered the opportunity of a job at Jet2, last week voted one of the UK's best airlines by Which? Magazine readers.

But, in line with its recruitment policy, Jet2 charges the applicant £700 to train on a four-week Jet2 course. Trainees don't receive any pay while on the course and the applicant fronts all costs. They then have to pass exams at the end to be guaranteed a job.

In some instances, job centres have given applicants £700 to complete this training but in other cases they have refused to pay. Adele says her job centre told her to borrow the money. "How can I?" she says. "I've been out of work for 12 weeks."

Jet2 said this was its standard recruitment process and would not comment further.

The Department for Work and Pensions has apologised. "We are sorry if people have experienced delayed payments and urge them to stay in contact with their job centre so we can urgently fix their claims.

"We know that losing a job is a distressing time for people. When Thomas Cook collapsed we were ready on day one to help the 11,000 people who lost their jobs.

"Our dedicated staff have helped thousands of those affected, including through home visits to those unable to reach the job centre and by fast-tracking applications so people are supported to find new work or training as soon as possible.

Bluesrunthegame · 23/12/2019 20:09

From the Independent, a Bill to increase the number of flights in British airspace, which will make it more difficult to reduce the UK's carbon emissions. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-climate-change-flights-carbon-emissions-net-zero-queens-speech-a9253516.html?fbclid=IwAR3MJh_6DjXTguOKWagdhzW74KtoZyMiRINbr0pqd5QuabId5g29DULIXjM

Didn't Mr Johnson say he'd lie in front of bulldozers to prevent another runway at Heathrow?

Bluesrunthegame · 23/12/2019 20:19

Independent again, new government failing to increase access to trains. The Minister says he is 'reluctant' to agree the train companies can delay providing accessible carriages, but the delay could now be up to a year. Independent

The Independent also covered Mr Johnson going to a Christmas party thrown by some oligarchs in the evening of his first day in office, but to be fair, he can party with whoever he likes. Probably quite important to him as one of the oligarchs owns the Standard, which gave him quite a lot of support this year.

chomalungma · 27/12/2019 10:11

Back to business

Spending rules to be broken to allow investment in the North

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7829169/Treasury-break-old-spending-rules-money-spent-North-Midlands.html

Treasury officials are to tear up decades-old rules to allow more money to be spent in the Midlands and north of England.

They are understood to be rewriting the regulations which critics say make it hard for government investment decisions to be approved in those areas.

Greater weight would be given to improving the wellbeing of people rather than simply focused on overall economic growth, The Times reported.

The change is seen as key to Prime Minister Boris Johnson's plans to invest tens of billions of pounds in communities which backed the Tories for the first time at the election.

Meanwhile, there have been leaked documents about the negotatins

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/27/eu-chief-questions-feasibility-of-boris-johnson-brexit-talks-time-limit

A leaked EU document seen by the Guardian lays out the key areas of cooperation which will be the subject of negotiation once the withdrawal agreement is ratified and the UK has withdrawn from the bloc at the end of January.

According to the paper, EU diplomats representing the member states will on 10 January look at the issues involved in maintaining a free flow of data after Brexit and allowing the UK’s financial services sector to continue to operate within the EU through a decision on the “adequacy” of UK regulation in those two areas.

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