To still like Jeremy Corbyn?

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I think it's right that he stepped down as the public clearly didn't get him...hated him even but i think he stands for the good in society. I actually think he is correctvto call out Israel for being bastards to Palestine and whilst ge apparently supports terroism ( ira), i think he is a negotiator ...the UK shafted Ireland hugely and the IRA is a consequence of that. We need people to negotiate with them.
I slso think remaining neutral on Brexit was the right thing to do but respecting the will of the people.

I don't hate Boris but he has got away with a lot. He has said many racist slurs, he hates women, he has multiple illegitimate children yet blames women, he switched sides re Brexit, oh and he's happy to trade with people like Saudi Arabia who have awful human rights. But apparently Jeremy is the bad one.

Hostility, bias, free pass are essentially all points on the same continuum.

Again, it would be very helpful if I knew what you understood by the term to ‘give a free pass’ in this context. I’m not sure we think it’s the same thing.

You've had a shift of opinion on our consensus recrudescence but you're still very reticent to volunteer any information about your position on press bias. I've elaborated on my position. I'm beginning to think you think you've got a free pass...

you're still very reticent to volunteer any information about your position on press bias.

As you know, I didn’t contribute to the thread to comment on press bias. (I do not, by the way, agree with your continuum proposition but can see why you might want to move the argument away from the point I was making.) My aim is only to dispute the claim that Johnson was given a free pass by the press. Nothing you have written makes me think I am mistaken in my belief that he was not.

I've elaborated on my position

No, in my opinion, you’ve made your position more opaque by refusing to agree a definition of ‘to give a free pass’.

Odd to join a discussion thread and refuse to discuss anything but what is likely to be a hyperbolic comment you insist on taking literally. It's very simple. Because the term used may well have been an exaggerated description of the actual position, it is useful to broaden out the discussion from free pass to whether there were different levels of bias and hostility encountered by each party.

My interpretation of a free pass in this context would be a free ride, free promotion, absence of scrutiny or challenge. I've already said I don't think this was the case, but I do think the Tories/Johnson had an easier ride - they didn't face the same levels of hostility, negativity, challenge etc as Labour/Corbyn.

Odd to join a discussion thread and refuse to discuss anything but what is likely to be a hyperbolic comment you insist on taking literally.

Your opinion. There is no evidence at all that SeaWitchly was exaggerating for effect when using the term free pass. I have simply commented on what was actually written not what you rather arrogantly imagine s/he meant.

Because the term used may well have been an exaggerated description of the actual position, it is useful to broaden out the discussion from free pass to whether there were different levels of bias and hostility encountered by each party.

See above. Again, who are you to say what another poster “may well” have meant? As for ‘broadening the discussion’ being “useful” well, yes, useful to you. You don’t get to dictate the terms of the discussion.

My interpretation of a free pass in this context would be a free ride, free promotion, absence of scrutiny or challenge. I've already said I don't think this was the case

We are, after all, in complete agreement about both the definition of free pass and the fact that it does not describe the media’s treatment of the Tories.

We are, after all, in complete agreement about both the definition of free pass and the fact that it does not describe the media’s treatment of the Tories.

Very little value in being in complete agreement about an absolute position (free pass or not) when degrees of difference would be more relevant. I've no doubt my opinion (easier ride but not a free pass) is closer to SeaWitchly's than it is to yours.

I don't think you can complain about arrogance or dictating the terms of discussion when you have systematically failed to provide any additional information whilst asking questions to which you have received responses. Why bother engaging in a discussion when you are unwilling to say what you actually think?

you have systematically failed to provide any additional information

Good god, have a listen to yourself. You seem to think you’ve joined the Stasi rather than an internet messageboard.

you are unwilling to say what you actually think?

I’ve told you, several times, what I actually think. It is only your extraordinary conceit that makes you believe otherwise. (Ditto your claim to know what posters really mean.)

Very little value in being in complete agreement about an absolute position (free pass or not) when degrees of difference would be more relevant.

This is the sort of self-regarding condescending guff that you specialise in. I’ll be my own judge about what’s valuable and relevant, thank you.

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