To think it’s utterly disgraceful that Corbyn hasn’t resigned

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The man is the reason the Labour Party didn’t stand a chance in the GE

Yet today he doesn’t even have the good grace or integrity to step aside

Is their anyone at all who supports him in that decision?

No arse I entirely credit my Tory vote to the narrow minded, cult like behaviour of you and your fellow Westminsterender cronies.

You voted Tory because you're upset that people on social media didn't agree with you? That's the most pitiful thing I've heard all day, and its a massively crowded field!

You've got what you wanted but, same as pp like Cendrillon, you can't leave it alone - you'll never be content because you're full of bile

@TheBlueStocking if he was well loved by a considerable number of people he would have been voted in. He’s got a thick skin that’s for sure. He should be hanging his head in shame.

You do realise that you need the support and votes of more than just ‘true’ Labour voters to win. That’s the whole fucking point of an election campaign- to persuade those who don’t already follow you to vote for your party.

But not by lying. Not by pretending to believe things they believe so they will vote for you. The point is to change minds. He didn’t change enough minds. That doesn’t mean he did it wrong.

No, what speaks volumes is that a complete and undisputed arsehole somehow won. It clearly wasn't a simple personality contest.

There are some really fucking nasty people on this thread.

I would like to know in what way Corbyn is responsible for Brexit? He wasn't leading the party when Cameron became PM, he didn't make Cameron have a referendum. he supported remain - whatever his issues with aspects of the EU - and has voted against awful deals in order to ensure that we either get a good deal or a second referendum. I mean hate the man all you like, but blaming him for Brexit is a bollocks.

If people didn’t like them, or him, so what?

That “so what?” just bought the country 5 years of Boris fucking Johnson. Of course it bloody matters if your leader is toxic to your party if you actually want them to get anywhere.

It isn't disgraceful he hasn't step down, they need to find a new leader which has been accepted but to lurch to a new leader would be irresponsible.

I hope that the Labour Party finds a new leader that the party and the public can get behind. I hope they regroup and find a way to move forward in a sensible progressive way that enables them to push for their changes.

Having parties which are credible and realistic drive accountability and change in politics and the country. We should want the best candidates from all parties going forward, not just to pick the first face and slap it on the same party for the sake of being able to say they changed something.

@ThisTurkeysNot4Christmas I have never said that. Anywhere. I'm something of a history buff fwiw. Nor has Chris Williamson. Nor has Corbyn. Once again - grow up.

I've had enough of this. I only wish I could leave the country, but coming from a working class background in a country that will now Brexit, that's not possible. Hopefully we can move to Scotland. Enjoy the brain drain.

noblegiraffe

He is going to resign. He's already said so. Does it need to happen today? No I don't believe it does.

The new Conservative voters from the Northern constituencies like Boris. They don't like Corbyn because he was utterly uninterested in them.

@Trewser

Apols I couldn't campaign in every area of the UK. Unfortunately, just not feasible.

noblegiraffe

The Labour Party elected him as leader. If they didn’t want a Socialist they shouldn’t have done that. Clearly they did, in the end accounting. And the electorate didn’t. Again, that is democracy. It’s not a crime to put forward your ideas.

Totally agree, someone centre left like Blair would have got a landslide, he’s totally ruined to Labour Party

You voted Tory because you're upset that people on social media didn't agree with you? That's the most pitiful thing I've heard all day, and its a massively crowded field!

No, I voted Tory because it became clear to me that slagging off the Tories whilst accepting there’s no viable alternative and praying for another hung parliament wasn’t going to get us anywhere.

Sadly that hasn’t sunk in in many quarters

Enjoy the brain drain

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@ImGoingToBangYourHeadsTogether As it happens I didn’t vote Tory, but I didn’t vote Labour either, its not one or the other.

At the end of the day what is important, what actually makes the difference is who gets the most votes and an awful lot of people couldn't or wouldn’t vote for Corbyn and this was well known before the election yet Labour ploughed ahead and handed the Tories a majority on a plate and Labour supporters seem to think everyone else is to blame because they didn’t vote ‘properly’ - no, it was Labours job to give us something appealing to vote for and they didn’t.

I absolutely think he should, but Margaret Beckett pointed out on the radio that since Tom Watson's resignation there's no deputy leader. So who would stand in while the leadership election happens?

YANBU at all.

I mean to say totally agree OP; haven’t read the whole story

It's between him and the Labour party, not our problem,

Whole thread* sorry

No, what speaks volumes is that a complete and undisputed arsehole somehow won. It clearly wasn't a simple personality contest.

Do you really not stop and think to yourself that if more people favoured that ‘arsehole’ then maybe my messiah isn’t all that?

in what way Corbyn is responsible for Brexit?

Refusing to share a platform with David Cameron when he has shared a platform with holocaust deniers. Coming out the morning after the referendum demanding that Article 50 be triggered immediately. Whipping the party to trigger Article 50 when the government was in no way prepared to leave within 2 years which led to the farce of the last 3 years which gave Johnson his winning ‘Get Brexit Done’ slogan.

I think Labour is finished, sadly. The cult-like behaviour, the arrogance, the inability to reflect or to listen to the electorate. Telling voters that they are thick, racist, bigots, gammon, TERFs, Red Tories, and so on. And then demanding they vote for you because if you don't you're evil and killing babies. We've seen them on here often enough. And now they're blaming everyone other than themselves for their loss, because they're right and you're wrong and just too thick or immoral to get it.

I've just been watching the newly-elected Wakefield MP on Channel 4 News and the main thing he said he took away from talking to people on the doorstep was that they are sick of being told what to think by morally self-righteous people in Islington, and then being told they are thick when they don't comply. Corbyn isn't the only one to blame for this, of course. That millionaire dilettante Jon Lansman and his mob of blue haired students with fancy pronouns and daddy's credit card played a big part in this. But the sad thing is that Labour will not come back from this, because the Momentum takeover is complete, and those people are incapable of listening to anything other than their own Twitter circle-jerk of bourgeois wokesters. They have no capacity for listening, for engaging with other viewpoints, perspectives and experiences, and ultimately don't care. It's a tragedy that the party of the working class has been colonised by these infantile narcissists.

So, yes, Corbyn should go, and will. But I genuinely don't think that Labour will learn a single thing from this.

No, I voted Tory because it became clear to me that slagging off the Tories whilst accepting there’s no viable alternative and praying for another hung parliament wasn’t going to get us anywhere.

So you voted Tory because you thought it was pointless to criticise what you didn't like? A hung parliament would have potentially got rid of the Tories. Well done.